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WPinVA
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Ok folks, help me out...

Would you vote for an implant or a bridge for someone with chronic Lyme?

Had a tooth pulled a few months ago. It was a root canal gone bad and I feel better now that it's out. I need to figure out what to put there and I don't want to start any new problems.

I was originally going to get an implant but now I'm not sure after reading about issues with sensitivity to titanium, and also that you are supposed to be in "good" general health.

But the down side of a bridge is I'm not happy about grinding down the teeth on both sides.

Ugh! Help!

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Read tooth truth by dr dawn Ewing and whole body dentistry by Mark bruener (sp).
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Worked in dentistry for yearsssss....

Depends on where this tooth is? But a fixed bridge is just fine. Don't worry about the prep of the other teeth. If you have a great dentist, you won't be able to tell that you have a bridge. It should be close to the gun tissue and have great margins around each tooth. Cleaning, flossing is a must with a bridge, but it's also a must with an implant.

Implant is ok for some.... others have issues. It will be screwed into your bone... a 'post' above the tissue for a crown to be attached. Cleaning under it is tricky and you have to keep it clean.

With Lyme, I would opt for the bridge, but that's me. Cost is less with a fixed bridge too..... should be.

It really is ok for the 'grinding' of the other teeth... they prep them smaller for the crowns to fit the same size of what the teeth are now.

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susank
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I had the same concerns.
Was really afraid to do something permanent in case I did not like it/or I reacted to the materials/whatever.

So I opted for a "flipper".

I take it out at night.

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WPinVA
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thanks so much for the feedback.

Is there any way a Lyme patient would have issues with a bridge?

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I've got a bridge. never had problems.

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My father had bridges. With the years, the good teeth on which the bridges were standing on got problems (infection / invisible cavities) because there is always some food infiltration under.

A bridge is placed on top of good teeth, but there is always some space under, where liquids go in.

A bit like what happens to cavities: the ceramic or plastic put on top can also break, or have tiny cracks or just bits of infiltration, and they may need to be changed, with the years.

For the look, bridge is better than removable partials.

I opted for removable partials because my teeth health was bad.

I kept losing teeth even AFTER lyme (during lyme too). Some roots got infected and ended up killing cavity-free teeth.

I wouldn't risk putting bridges just because of health concerns. I can't even consider implants (nothing will hold on my jawbones, I think, after all those jaw cavitation surgeries I did...).

What I like with partials is that you take them off, clean them, put them back. Mine were done in Switzerland, they are very good.

Besides, once you do one partial, next time you get another tooth pulled out, you barely have to pay anything extra.

I made if of the purest gold possible, because I do not react to gold badly (some people do). Every component of the alloy was tested energetically for me.

So far, I'm glad. I have one for about 8, 9 years, the other is newer (about 1.5 year).

The only bad point is the aesthetic part (as one can see some of the gold). But as I said, I had no option due to weak teeth.

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Thank you... that is a good point about the bridge. That is my fear with a bridge - compromising the healthy teeth.

I would be the type to be bothered by a denture, I think. I dunno...I guess I could try it.

I just don't know. I feel like all the options aren't great, and I wish there were better options!!!

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Have you looked into zirconium implants? They are very expensive, but the zirconium is supposed to be less reactive than titanium.
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Yep, that is what I would do, if I opted for implants: zirconium.

You'll still need strong bones for implants.

In case my teeth health improves considerably, I may consider zirconium implants too. But I fear all those bones implants that I shall need... that is why I keep my partials.

It's not a perfect solution... The only good thing is that I know I can get rid of all metals in a second, in case I want all metals out.

In case of an implant (ziconium or not), it would mean another surgery to take them off (in case my health deteriorates)...

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thanks so much for the thought, yes I have considered looking into zirconium. Hard to find someone who does it but one place seems to offer it so I'm thinking of going in for a consult. Good to know you've both heard good things.

thank you!

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I am in need of an extraction and have been debating the same options.
I'm glad this has been brought up and being discussed.
So far I am trying to get a zirconium implant as I have healthy jaw bone in that area.
Waiting for a second opinion as to whether this tooth actually needs to come out.
I have some time between extraction and having the next step( implant) done .
I will be watching this topic and continue to form my decision.
Thanks for posting VPinVA,good luck in making your choice.

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WPinVA
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I have been researching and reading... The Whole Body Dentistry book is fantastic.

A bonded bridge looks like it may be a good option.

Any thoughts or experience with bonded bridges?

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I have two dental implants which are titanium. No issues at all.

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How does one know if you have healthy enough bone?

I've been told my bone is infected, but I have no pain--this only got discovered on x-ray accidentally when I was supposed to get a new crown made higher to correct my bite.

Can they scrape the infection out before they do the bone graft?

I'm on argentyn 23 for lyme right now--any chance that would circulate into the bone?

It's good to hear titanium hasn't caused any problem for you Faithful!

I'd like to get tested for titanium by biological dentist, but there aren't any near by for me. I'm thinking of just doing it!

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Oops--accidentally erased my comment before posting about the tooth being an upper molar and that a sinus lift/bone graft would be necessary.
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I had two different dentists do the implants and both put a bone graft in, months before the actual implant.

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WPinVA
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quote:
Originally posted by Marz:

I'd like to get tested for titanium by biological dentist, but there aren't any near by for me. I'm thinking of just doing it! [/QB]

At the very least, get a cheap titanium bracelet and wear it for a few days. Not as good as real testing but better than nothing!

I'm doing this right now. No issues at all.

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After reading this article, it beats me why everyone isn't tested for allergy to titanium before they do a complicated and expensive procedure!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3753052/

I've ruled out root canal, a bridge is risky for my bite/TMJ and I was leaning toward implant.

I'm going to get a bracelet WPinVA. I'm not a jewelry person, but found one I'd love to wear just for fun too! Thanks.

My naturopath tests me for suppls and I asked if she could do it for titanium and said no.

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