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dan67
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Some of the scientific literature says that cannabis and CBD are immunosuppressive. So could it be that it makes us feel better temporarily then causes us to relapse like steroids do?

Experiences please?

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Tincup
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This may be of interest...

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/134797#000000

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Muscle Car55
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Yeah and cannabis kills brain cells too... lol

We're beginning to understand that a lot of these studies that hinted to this were put out by lobbyists and the pharmaceutical industry to keep cannabis illegal.

The recent leak by Wikileaks reveals a lot about Cannabis/CBD...

"Leak Reveals Clinton Promised Bankers To Stand Against Marijuana Legalization"

https://www.mintpressnews.com/leak-reveals-clinton-promised-bankers-to-stand-against-marijuana-legalization/221341/

Pharmacies, Pharmaceutical Companies, and the entire Health Care System is starting to lose billions... Imagine if cannabis becomes fully legal, they could stand to lose trillions...

Just on pain pills alone, but we're just beginning to understand the multiple diseases and disorders CBD/Cannabis can treat!

Dan67, just remember how studies can be twisted and turned to make them benefit the corporations and their greed. They once published a study suggesting cigarettes are healthy for you...

We're well aware how the Embers study was delayed a decade, while many corrupt CDC studies on just one single antibiotic against Lyme Disease were published.

Of course one antibiotic won't do anything, as the John Hopkins study found out, it took Chemo to completely erradicate the disease.

See how they can twist and manipulate studies. If you show how one antibiotic doesn't work against Lyme, you can easily just state antibiotics dont work against borrelia at all..

In reality, you need 3-4 antibiotics to make progress with this disease. Especially particular types, like Flagyl, Minocycline, and Tindamax.

Why doesn't the CDC do studies on Flagyl? That antibiotic made me achieve more progress in a week than the year and half I was on doxy or amoxicillin.

I hope this explains a lot Dan67! Be careful what studies you read online and news you get from the TV. A lot of this information has been manipulated to suit corporations while trying to fool you...

Luckily, while the 1%, CEOs, and Corporations are using technology against us. It's also being used against them to uncover corruption within our own government.

This country needs to start treating whistleblowers like Edward Snowden, Gary Webb, and Julian Assange a lot better than they should be.

Problem is, too many people support the Military Industrial Complex, along with our corrupt government. They get you with propaganda such as support the troops...

All this has a direct correlation to Lyme Disease too if you don't think so. Project Paperclip, Erich Traub, Plum Island = Military Industrial Complex.

The government/politicians will easily put our lives over the protection of the Military Industrial Complex, just remember that!

Under Eightball Documentary proposed how the same doctors who studied and founded lyme in Connecticut, were the same ones who worked in the biowarfare division for the military... Ding Ding!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_K0VPWvCQ

Passage from the book "Tick Bites & MS" in a discussion with Dr. Willy Burgdorfer.

“Dr. Burgdorfer looked well in despite of his ongoing physical problems that by now Lyme Disease, Diabetes, and the diagnosis of Parkinson’s disease, we talked nonstop throughout the entire day, but when Karen finally got to the point about questioning him about Plum Island and borrelia, he hesitated, then he slowly responded, you know I worked at Fort Dietrich, sometimes medical research has accidental releases. Karen and I got silent, everybody got silent, for fear that he was really feeling something that was top secret. I interrupted him any further questions by Karen as to whether borrelia was a biological weapon that had escaped on purpose or by accident from Plum Island by saying Willy are these things you’re not supposed to tell us about, he became silent again and he nodded slightly, then almost became silent and the conversation ended.”

Anyways, back to directly talking about cannabis/CBD. Personally I'd just do the CBD oils and THC Rick Simpson oils... I'm still weary of doing it smoking and even vaping!

THC products can make you a little lethargic, CBD on the other hand can give you energy and still have the same anti-inflammatory effect.

Both work great for inflammation, pain... I basically cured my sciatica with CBD from Lyme Disease. Nothing else worked, not Turmeric, not antibiotics, Naproxen, other pain drugs, nothing!!!

Something in this stuff that has super healing powers, whether it be the multiple cannabinoids, terpenes. It's still possible these cannabis derived products could actually kill Lyme bacteria as well.
https://www.medicaljane.com/2015/05/22/doctor-believes-cannabidiol-paste-could-be-a-potential-cure-for-lyme-disease/

http://reset.me/story/marijuana-the-super-antibiotic-of-the-future/

Definitely watch the watch the special Real Sports did on cannabis in the NFL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AccREj2l7c4

Dr. Raphael Mechoulam of Hebrew University of Jerusalem claimed mice were able to recover from a brain injury by 50%. The study was published by “three” major medical journals!

Having a hint of THC in CBD is just enough to keep the synergistic effect... Just be aware, a lot of the CBD found online and even at the dispensary now is just industrial hemp. You need the CBD oil from a high CBD strain from a marijuana plant, not industrial hemp. People just aren't getting the same results with a lot of the CBD oils sold online. You need the other cannabinoids, terepens, and little THC to get the synergistic effect.

The brand I use is Special FX Labs here in Michigan, works wonders. My father is now taking it, it's helped him a lot. Jesse Ventura talked about how well it's helped his epilepsy after the whole debacle with Chris Kyle, which now we're starting to learn was just a fabrication to ruin Jesse's reputation/credibility. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2P1L_7uHrY

Remember Jesse did a show on Plumb Island and Lyme Disease, so yeah, I could definitely see the government getting together with America's golden boy to ruin his reputation.
http://www.jesseventura.net/conspiracy-theory/s02e01-plum-island/

Again another whistle blower that our country treated like crap, luckily the truth has gotten out! Problem is most probably won't find out the truth about Jesse and Kyle.

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Joe Rogan in recent podcast, fentanyl pharmaceutical company spent half a million dollars in ads in Arizona to make medical marijuana illegal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSILESmMWm4&t=64m0s

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What about this? Sure seems immunosuppressive
http://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/247670

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dbpei
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I am concerned after reading about that study, BryanRosner. [Frown] I am taking a combo of ABX as well as MM. But there are some subtle improvements that I notice listed in the thread below.

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/129841#000016

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