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Bid3
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I was told by a general surgeon today that he is getting more cases of Lyme patients arriving with the recommendation to have their Gallbladder removed by their Lyme Doc, yet do not have the "Tests" to show gallbladder issues. The reason was that some Docs now believe that Lyme attacks and holds out in the Gallbladder. He also stated that he has done a few removals for actual gallbladder issues in Lyme patients and has reports that the Lyme Treatment post procedure was more successful for these patients.

I did some searches on the forum and did not see any recent real discussion here for the gallbladder and lyme nesting. Is there any reports of this, any research, or personal experience with Gallbladder removal and their Lyme treatment?

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Parasites love gallbladder and liver, and probably cause a lot of gallbladder problems. Having Lyme makes it easy for other microorganisms (as well as some that may not be so micro sized!) to get a strong foothold in the body, adding another layer to illness.
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Lyme also loves the bladder, brain and eyes. Shown to be so in the studies.

It doesn't mean we should remove those organs to try to have a better outcome from Lyme. If we removed organs we thought might be a problem the spirochetes would just move somewhere else.

The spirochetes aren't going to give up just because their residential area may be smaller from one day to the next.

Stubborn little suckers they are.

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Removing the Gallbladder is one thing, but removing eyes would be a bit more extreme. I could see the CDC suggesting this as punishment to us stupid people that have lyme. [Smile]

So no common theory on removing the Gallbladder then?

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Ditto what Tincup said. I don't get preemptively removing a functioning body part. Another consideration is that with Lyme and Co's the body's elimination pathways can get really bogged down with trying to detox and keep up with body processes even before any treatment has commenced.

This can cause liver congestion and keep the bile from moving properly, perhaps allowing it to linger too long and stagnate in the gallbladder where it could cause issues there or in the ducts.

It makes more sense to first directly address physical liver detox issues. There are numerous gentle treatments (herbs, supps, acupuncture, etc) that can promote the flow and production of bile through liver and gallbladder which improves the body's function overall.

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I had my gallbladder out before I knew I had lyme and it made things SO MUCH WORSE!!!

I'd say hang on to your organs as long as you can.

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I had my gall bladder out before I had lyme also. I was in horrible pain, losing weight, etc. I felt so much better digestion wise once it was removed.
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Ahh the Internet, Someone says it is horrible, then someone says it is great. [Smile]

I agree that holding onto the organs is better than taking them out for the heck of it. In our case, we are trying figure out what to do as we are chasing some issues with the organ specifically. [Frown]

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I know 2 young people with lyme who miss their gall bladder ...rocephin probable doesnt help me ...

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Well, I was having text book gallbladder symptoms, including attacks where I was on the ground in pain.

Had 2 separate ultrasounds, no stones and no sludge found.
Was told I was probably constipated.

Finally, after just being miserable every night (and colonoscopy and endo checked out fine)

I demanded/ asked for a HIDA scan. Hooked up to machine and get injected w/ something to make your gallbladder work.

I failed the test. Got my gallbladder removed, and my gut is about 85-90% better.

I read antibiotics have a tough time getting into the gallbladder.
Very glad I got mine removed,
and a HIDA scan test can difinitivly rule in out or in.

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