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Brussels
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http://180degreehealth.com/dietary-iron-friend-foe/

Dr K's citation:

“Also, however (and this is important), it is possible to have what appears to be an excessively high level of serum iron and even elevated ferritin, while suffering actual intracellular deficiencies (D. Klinghardt).

This is most common where chronic infections (viral, parasitic, etc.) are present and these should be ruled out.

The body will use iron and copper as oxidizing agents against viruses and other microbial agents.

The elevated serum levels reflect ‘spent’ ammunition.

Addressing the infection by taking high doses of vitamin C or other reducing agents to help regenerate iron and supporting immune function can turn this situation around.”

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https://www.mercola.com/chlorella/index.htm

Will Chlorella Help Iron Overload?

While effective in removing mercury - Chlorella will not do the same for iron.

Chlorella contains iron and will actually raise iron levels.

Iron is potentially toxic because the human body has a limited capacity to excrete iron - causing it to build up in the body.

Iron is nature's rusting agent, and excess levels of iron in our bodies is one of the most potent ways that our body becomes oxidized, or prematurely aged.

Iron is a catalyst in the formation of hydroxyl free radicals.

These are the most dangerous and potent free radicals in the body as they attack cell membranes, fats, proteins and DNA.

Iron is really the anti-antioxidant -- it does the exact opposite of an antioxidant.


Measuring your iron levels is a very effective way of maintaining your health.

The best way to do this is through a measure of serum ferritin level in conjunction with total iron binding level.

If your levels are too high, above 150, one way of treating elevated iron levels is by taking a simple extract from rice bran called phytic acid, or IP6.

Not only is this an inexpensive solution, but also it doesn't require any prescription.

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http://lymebook.com/blog/research-news/the-perfect-storm/

IRON SUPPLEMENTS – especially damaging to mothers to be, and also infants.

Hemachromatosis is the most inheritable disease, conversely, the most inherited in autism families
Boys are mostly affected.

Big clue. Mothers should conduct a genetic test for hemachromatosis before thoughts of pregnancy.

This disease is very prevelant in
IRISH, SCOTTICH, NORTHERN EUROPEANS.

It is interesting to note that Germany does not put iron in foods, and autism rates
are very low there.

Hans Raible wrote to me the following:
We do not have iron fortification, so the iron content in German mothers (and their children) is lower on average, and
autism is much less frequent as a consequence, so the women have healthier children.


The US has been practicing “iron fortification” since 1940 (interesting coincidence of the first autism cases).

In the US,
every slice of bread is made with flour containing iron filings.

The packages of corn flakes made by Kellogg’s can be lifted with a magnet because of this. It sounds pretty crazy, and it is.

The result of this is that the average serum ferritin values (a measure of iron overload) in US
women of child-bearing age are going up by 3 ng/mL each year, and by 4 ng/mL per year in US males of the same age group.


This means that US women are entering the dangerous iron zone above 50 ng/mL, and US males commonly are within this danger
zone.

There, plaque forms in the blood vessels such as in the carotid arteries where it has to be removed by surgery.

The males are made impotent by the iron, and both sexes are losing their libido.

The thyroids will work no longer forcing people to take thyroid pills, and at age 60, they will need artificial hip and knee joints courtesy of Kellogg’s.

Depression caused by iron overload is rampant. (No, it is not good for the brain.)

The excess iron also makes people much more susceptible to infection by the viruses contained in the MMR vaccine, and to the various bacteria contained in vaccines. Hence autism.

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If you want un-Iron-fortified cereals in America, most organic cereals don't have added vitamins and minerals, including iron. I will not buy any bread or conventional cereals because they all have added iron.
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I live in Switzerland.

I don't really buy normal stuff that people buy, so I have no idea whether there is iron or not in 'normal' cereal packages.

I just found the information interesting, because many people in this forum seem to have high iron levels.

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Phlebotomis are the way to lower iron levels. Not sure if there is a chelating drug. You want to measure fasting early morning serum iron, tibc, and ferritin.
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For those who have Babesia, anemia can become dangerous and some kind if iron supplementation is required, though often best via certain herbs like stinging nettle leaf.
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I had low ferritin during babesia and had to take iron infusions, many times.

Once Babesia disappeared, my iron levels got back to normal.

I got reinfected with babesia later, and got again low ferritin, and had to again, take iron infusions (my level fell drastically to dangerous levels).

My daughter has no babesia, and has also extreme low iron.

We're trying to look at her gut. Nettle is a good idea, Keebler. She takes some, but not every day... She's now on vegetarian iron pills, but I'm sure they won't be enough...

Doctor thinks the problem of extreme low iron for her is in her gut. So I decided to give her antiparasite herbs (mimosa seeds, wormwood, some pumpkin seeds). Her tummy is grumbling but nothing else so far...

Funny that some lyme patients have high iron in blood...

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I always liked this website.

http://www.irondisorders.org/


I noticed they now have a company advertising that has something for both boosting ferrtin and lowering ferritin.

Here is the one for boosting ferrtin. I have no idea if this stuff works or not.

https://ironology.life/collections/ironology-products/products/ferritin-boost


If I weren't taking so many pills I would try the one to lower ferritin.

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I have low iron. I don't tolerate iron pills. My dr. Is having me take deseccated liver pills. Hoping it raises my levels.
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Terv, many thanks!! I will put that ironology product in our waiting list. I have to import it from the US, though...

So I'll stick to a new formula that is fully vegetable based, and keep on treating her gut, and see what comes.

I hope you find your solution for high ferritin.

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HW88, thank you for the tip too. I tried to eat liver, but that is one thing I can't... I tried to give to my daughter, but she almost puked.

Do you have good results with it (is your Ferritin raising??)

thanks!

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Brussels, I've been on it a week.. hahaha. I'll let you know the next time I get tested.
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As I try to find a source for my remaining symptoms I joined the Trying Low Oxalate facebook group. Lots of great info but this article came across and pertains to iron

https://www.sciencedirect.com/.../pii/S0022283604003523

Founder of group (I think), Susan Owens, wrote the following:

quote:
The problem with oxalate interference is inside the transferrin’s active site. The iron is not released so that it can become part of ferritin or heme.
One woman wrote how reducing oxalates in her diet caused her iron numbers to come into range (she was anemic).
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