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patty7
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Does anyone have any thoughts on taking all three of these together and if there may be any problems to consider?

Thanks!

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I really don't know, but at least take them with food. I have to take curcumin with food.

Someone at a health food store might have some advice for you.

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berberine is a strong anti-microbial - especially active in the gut when taken orally - so may prompt herx like reactions - it does for me and many others.
the other two have mild anti-microbial and anti-inflammatory actions and I have tried chewing Boswellia resin -= and currently take around 4g a day of turmeric (contains curcumin) - and I tolerate them fine.

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ps - curcumin is poorly absorbed - the best absorption is achieved if taken with a fatty meal.
generally its easier to cook with turmeric than to get enough with supplements

eg taking a teaspoon of turmeric cooked in something with oils - eg fried briefly in oil before making the rest of the dish/sauce has been shown to be more effective than taking multiple curcumin supplements.

the reason is simple - its a large molecule
and large molecules do not cross our gut membrane easily. so you have to either take a great deal of it - or help it across with digestible fats.

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Thank you all. I started berberine after an e-coli episode years ago recommended by a nutritionist and added boswellia for inflammation. Dr recently recommended curcumin(liposomal). I think taking berberine before breakfast, then the others right after eating with supplements during meal might be the best. Can't afford a nutritionist right now, so thanks for your info.
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liposomal curcumin is about the best-absorbed form - so that may help
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if you are still having issues with gut a year after an infection - i would suggest retesting for a broad screen for gut pathogens - as its possible something is still present.
The Gut tends to heal within around 1 month if it's healthy.

of course, there could be immune dysfunction of some sort going on - esp if lyme and co are in the mix (e.g. Bartonella causes many gut issues - according to Dr. Burrascano - he is like the forefather of all LLMD's) - but it may well be something easily identifiable and more easily treatable.

you could use Something like a Comprehensive stool analysis with parasitology from Genova
or some of the more recent PCR type analysis like the GI-MAP stool test - which screens for most of the common gut pathogens via PCR

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