I am just getting over the worst of a severe backsliding depression, and absolutely no sleep for a few nights. This depression happened before, but not this bad, last spring when I was on a combo of ceftin and biaxin. I stopped taking the biaxin because I donot have the support system to handle this kind of side effect. ( I know, it may have been a herx dye off effect thing, but again, if I cant function and am thinking bad thoughts I cant take care of myself and my three kids.) Anyway, I had been taking IV rocephin for 3 weeks, and after an initial feeling somewhat more achy tired etc..., I had been feeling GREAT for a week. I mean realy great. Even my ex, when he came by noticed, hey your playing loud music while CLEANING, you dont like loud music, and you look good, etc... I told him I do like music, cleaning my house, etc... but he just can't remember the real me that was now coming back out. Meanwhile, the TOA free cats claw tincture came in the mail around then, and I was feeling cocky, thought this is what I'm working towards, I want to kill all the bad stuff asap and be this way forever. My doctor the day before had also added a few things to my mix: an antviral med. and a gallstone thining one too, and a request to start walking uphill. So, I did that, 1 Mile walk a day, the new meds with the rocephin, and added the herbal tinctures: 2 drops cats claw, dropperfull of black walnut (an anti parasitic) twice a day. started feeling a bit worse each day until the terrible depresion started(day 4 or 5 into new stuff), then stopped being able to sleep. I have stopped taking anything but the rocephin and got a sleepng pill (sonnata) perscription. It has been one day and I am shaky, but slept and am not crying, losing it, hating myself, etc... So hopefully fine

But, why did this happen ? I think it was the cats claw, at only 4 drops a day ! But will slowly add the rest back in to see. tomorrow I will add back in the walk and antiviral. Does anyone else have experience with this kind of side effect ? How do you handle it ? And are their successfull uses of cats claw or might I just have done too much of everything at once ?

Thanks

I cut back the dose and am doing better, working back up to the full dose. I think the half-life must be fairly short, since the worst of the anxiety had subsided within about 8 hours of cutting back.

It's powerful stuff and I'm seeing very encouraging results, but it wouldn't surprise me if you had a reaction to that high a dose to start.

My daughter just started on one drop a day and for the first three days her vision was all messed up (wavy). Then the pain in her back and joints went away and she's feeling much better, but still staying at one drop.

The depression could be from brain swelling, either from toxins released as spirochetes are killed off, or from the new combination of things since you've changed your routine. The antiviral could also be causing a herx reaction (which may be a good thing).

I hope you get your sleep back and feel better again soon -

Jan

I am now off abx, and my LLMD has asked me to up it to 2 capsules to try to get rid of remaining shoulder/head pain. Even though I am 95% better, I got instant brain fog from 1/3rd extra capsule within a half hour..

I'm up to 1 and 1/2 capsule a day now - and head pain is completely gone.

Its killing something, and releasing toxins.

I am now off it for a while. My alternative dr. recommended 4 days on and 3 days off, which I hadn't heard before and hadn't been doing.