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snowboarder
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I'm off abx for a while due to stomach and possible gallblader problems.

What worked best to detox your system?

My alternative doc wants me to do a parasite cleanse but I just am not sure. Don't we all have parasites or do we have more thanks to lyme?


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Ide like to know peoples opinion on this also, so im bumpin it UP!

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Do the cleanse. In order to get back to health we must get rid of all the things that have built up in our system.

Yes, we all have parasites, but if you're trying to regain health, you have to clean out and restore ALL parts of yourself in order for your body to function properly and heal.

Lyme was just the defining event, the straw that broke the camel's back. There are many things to heal, not just the lyme.

I know you know this already.

Just my opinion,
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snowboarder
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Hi Robi,

Can you do a parasite cleanse and abx at the same time or do I need to stay off abx while doing this?


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I'd do the recommended parasite cleanse if I were you. I passed a tapeworm (named him Miles for obvious reasons) over a month ago and I'd been taking antibiotics for 9 months. Eeeeek!
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Biting Back,

Now I'm freaked out.

My thougt was if abx were strong enough to kill lyme wouldn't they kill everything else?


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Any parasite cleanse in particular that is recommended by those with tick borne illness??
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i am very interested in a cleanse also. You were on antibotics when you did the cleanse?
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You need to consult wit an alternative doc as to when the best time to do the parasite cleanse is.

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There's a lot of information about various cleanses at www.curezone.com
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So you can also do a stool test for parasites...
I had carisporidium a couple years back. Though making that go away didn't change much of anything since I didn't know about the lyme.

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The following is part of a lecture by Dr. K. where he discusses the sequence of treatments for all that he has found to be co-infections with most clients.

Don't treat viruses before you treat parasites. Viruses survive in parasites and hatch from there again. So it pays to follow a certain order in treatment of the various infections. This is from the text of
Lyme Disease: A look Beyond Antibiotics. This is basically the regimen both my husband and I did and were very successful in conquering Lyme and whatever else came with it. Lyme certainly was not the only bugs>

"Sequencing

There is an inherent order in which the microbes should be treated. If the order is correct, gentle methods work. Treatment should always combine electromagnetic interventions, using specific microbial inhibition frequencies (KMT technology) with the appropriate herb, antibiotic or other antimicrobial strategy. It should also always be combined with a toxin elimination program, good psychotherapy and general life style hygiene (all the stuff, that alternative Medicine stands for).


The Lyme ABC

A. We start with deworming our clients. We often use a simple yet agressive seasalt/Vit C protocol (19) which has an independent effect aginst the spirochetes also. The high salt conmcentration kills large parasites by osmotically induced dehydration (osmotic shock). High salt levels also increase the enzyme elastase which has a strong antimicrobial/anti-spirochete effect (4)
Protocol: 1.5 grams of seasalt per 20 lbs of body weight in 4 divided doses per day for 3 weeks. With each dose also give 1-4 gms of Vit C (dose has to be just below bowel tolerance). Three 3-6-week cycles with a 2 week break inbetween. The BP should be monitored and not elevate outside acceptable levels. 5 % of the population are salt sensitive and react with a significantly increased blood pressure. In the off weeks we give 1/2 tsp of sea salt first thing am in a glass of water. Sometimes we enhance the program by using the ``Arise-and-Shine'' herbal program. Often I will add in a course of Albendazole or Biltricide. We developed antiparasitic CDs for entrainment of the immune system. The frequencies were obtained by German physicists by taping the sounds of microbes in their respective live activity in an underground lab which was soundproof and electromagnetically completely shielded (6).

B. the next step is the treatment of giardia, entamoeba histolytica and trichomonas, which most often are overlooked. Lab detection of large parasites in most US labs is hopeless. Amoeba and giardia trophozoites can only be detected in a fresh stool for about 20 minutes. None of the labs available to us comply with this necessity. The detection rate is so substandard that only ART testing, a therapeutic trial or abdominal palpation by an experienced practitioner are capable of establishing the diagnosis. Protocol: organic freeze dried garlic ( 14 ) treats all of the above astoundingly successfully. Sometimes we add Tinidazole 500 mg bid for 10 days always followed by long term garlic therapy (3 caps tid after meals).

C. Next we attend to the chronic strep infections, which often coexist with the herpes viruses. No other treatment has been as successful as Pleo Not (penicillum notatum) from Pleomorphic-Sanum followed by a 6 month course of Pleo Sancom (antidotes for aspergillus niger and mucor racemosus). We always look at the tonsils: if they are scarred with crypts, or lymph tissue has regrown since the tonsillectomy (``tonsillar tags''), surgical intervention is needed. Otherwise these patients (which are most of them) never get well. We recommend a procedure developed by Dr. Sergej Dorochov, MD, PhD called ``regenerative cryotherapy'' ( 20 ). It involves freezing the surfaces of all lymphatic tissue of the head/neck region which creates a barrage of growth factor and cytokine responses, that often lead to dramatic improvements in our Lyme patients. Lymph drainage using the KMT technology has been superb in speeding the healing of the sinus/head/neck/region.

D. the next step is the treatment of Babesia . There are now at least 17 subtypes of this intracellular Malaria-like organism. Eye, brain and dental symptoms are most often caused by this mean microbe.
Protocol: Frequency #2 in the KMT 22 TENS unit inhibits the metabolic activity of Babesia and is used 3 times weekly.
I also use Artemisinin, 2 cap 2times/day. 3 weeks on, 1 week off. Always"

Take care.


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I have a question about the detox.. I have never really contemplated it, but I need to get this junk out and gone however I can.

Do I just go buy a "parasite cleanse" or is this a homemade thing? Just curious.

Are there just regular detox things as well, you know.. not involving parasites?

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5 mile run and organic coffee enema....usually does it for me...
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You guys are getting a colon cleanses mixed up with a parasite cleanse.

Sorry, guys, no coffee enema or any colonic for that matter will get the parasites out of your brain or wherever they are residing. Yes, they are everywhere disrupting some functions.

Some parasites are normal to the human body, but once you offset the balances with drugs and abx, these rules no longer hold. Most of us have tooooooo many parasites and that's what this particular cleanse refers to. Raw fish, anyone?

Colonics, if done well, clear many feet - a coffee enema or any enema goes no further than a couple of feet, if that far.

Parasite treatments often need more powerful remedies. Dr. K. mentions some of them in his protocols.

Take care.


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Gigi,

Right on sis.

trout

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