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notime2work
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Microbes -- What Doesn't Kill Them Makes Them Stronger

http://whyfiles.org/038badbugs/scope.html

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Areneli
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According to many records Bb can became resistant to ABX but it is a rare event.
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Well, unless we pass our Bb back into the population at large via another bite, it seems to me that we keep our abx-exposed bacteria within our own bodies, so I don't think abx resistance is a huge concern.

It's not like pneumonia or something else that can be passed easily from person to person. You'd have to pass it into a vector who then passes it into another warm-blooded animal who passes it to another vector who bites another human. Much more remote than other illnesses.

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I wish that people would pay more attention to true overusage of abx that happens in cattle and chicken farms.
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I wish that people would pay more attention to true overusage of abx that happens in cattle and chicken farms.

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That is very true Biccilin LA, is 10 bucks for 200ml,at the local farm supply shop,5 miles from my home.my niece is a chemist,it is the same bicillin we pay 70 bucks a swring for..
I was on it 14 months and did great then i plateuaed,at were im now.

And you or the farmer doesnt even need a script for it.And they got bottles of it,But for us humans its in short supply,figure that one out.

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http://www.canlyme.com/antibiotic_resistance_lyme.html
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Hi All

70 percent of all ABX produced in the US
is used by the Life stock-Farm- industry

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quote:
Originally posted by Areneli:
I wish that people would pay more attention to true overusage of abx that happens in cattle and chicken farms.

amen, amen, amen!!!!!!!!!!! [rant] [shake] [rant] [shake]

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quote:
originally posted by Arneli
I wish that people would pay more attention to true overusage of abx that happens in cattle and chicken farms.

Amen to that! [Eek!]

Also, the over use of abx for acne when we can't get it for a real disease! [loco]

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The damage has been done. We've created a monstrous MRSA epidemic. "They" fear that more than they fear the borrelia epidemic.
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originally posted by Penn92:
Well, unless we pass our Bb back into the population at large via another bite, it seems to me that we keep our abx-exposed bacteria within our own bodies, so I don't think abx resistance is a huge concern.

I guess my question is not that it will pass back into the population at large, but is it making it more difficult to kill the pathogens already residing in us? Do they become resistant to the abx that are used, so that one never gets well? Seems it could be the case ...

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Yes, I think we have and are creating abx resistant borrelia and many other abx resistant bacteria. And they are mutating as we speak. My doctor thinks likewise.

Take care.

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No, we may be creating abx resistant chickens though.... but when antique anti infectives like bactrim are used to combat MRSAs with success I think we needn't worry ourselves into a stupor.

I've posed the question of 'superbugs' many times to medical professionals, sort of like 'does overuse of antibiotics create ineradicable strains of bacteria?', or 'does free access to antibiotics lead to antibiotic resistance?' the answer is always. of course, that it can lead to a form of colitis...that MRSAs are a result of the same.

But we all know that....and as far as anything further the answer is always 'well theoretically it could happen'.

Theoretically if I could flap my arms fast enough I could fly...

Charlie

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MARILYNN MARCHIONE, "Drug-resistant superbug spreading", Houston
Chronicle, August 17, 2006,
Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4122487.html

A once-rare drug-resistant germ now appears to cause more than half of
all skin infections treated in U.S. emergency rooms, say researchers
who documented the superbug's startling spread in the general
population.

Many victims mistakenly thought they just had spider bites that
wouldn't heal, not drug-resistant staph bacteria. Only a decade ago,
these germs were hardly ever seen outside hospitals and nursing homes.

Doctors also were caught off-guard - most of them unwittingly
prescribed medicines that do not work against the bacteria.

"It is time for physicians to realize just how prevalent this is," said
Dr. Gregory Moran of Olive View-UCLA Medical Center, who led the study.

Skin infections can be life-threatening if bacteria get into the
bloodstream. Drug-resistant strains can also cause a vicious type of
pneumonia and even "flesh-eating" wounds.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention paid for the study,
published in today's New England Journal of Medicine. Several authors
have consulted for companies that make antibiotics.

Researchers analyzed all skin infections among adults who went to
hospital emergency rooms in 11 U.S. cities in August 2004. Of the 422
cases, 249, or 59 percent, were caused by methicillin-resistant
Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA. Such bacteria are impervious to the
penicillin family of drugs long used for treatment.

The proportion of infections caused by MRSA ranged from 15 percent to
as high as 74 percent in some hospitals.

The good news: MRSA infections contracted outside a hospital are easier
to treat. The study found several antibiotics work against them,
including some sulfa drugs that have been around for decades. A
separate study in the journal reports the effectiveness of Cubicin.

However, doctors need to test skin infections to see what germ is
causing them, researchers said.

VRSA and total resistance is just around the corner. I fail to see how anyone in their right mind would not be concerned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancomycin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus

VISA (vancomycin-intermediate Staphylococcus aureus) was first identified in Japan in 1997 and has since been found in hospitals in England, France, the U.S., Asia and Brazil. It is also termed GISA (glycopeptide-intermediate Staphylococcus aureus) indicating resistance to all glycopeptide antibiotics. These bacterial strains present a thickening of the cell wall which is believed to deplete the vancomycin available to kill the bacteria. This worries many physicians and microbiologists because it leads to high level resistance to vancomycin in Staphylococcus aureus.

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quote:
The good news: MRSA infections contracted outside a hospital are easier
to treat. The study found several antibiotics work against them,
including some sulfa drugs that have been around for decades

yep.
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