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Um, noni juice isn't what people use for lyme. it's the noni extracts. The juice isn't potent enough I guess.
Is that what you are asking about lpkayak?
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Agree with Ruth. The juice did nothing noticeable for me, but PC-noni did.
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hi-thanks for the answers. i have a noni powder from a chiro and i found noni drops at biopure site.
on that site it says"take on empty stomach"
"can be taken directly after meal"
????????? so now i'm even more confused.
i did feel significantly better the day after starting the powder-but i had also had a chiro tx and started another new supp...so i can't be sure it is the noni
i pay attention when i feel significantly better from one tx of anything tho-so i am trying to get more info
scott the better health guy emailed me "he liked noni-esp for babs" - and he referred me to the biopure site. their product is drops...not powder...or juice.
i stay away from juice myself...except i do plan to try the mangosteen
soooooooo...if anyone comes along who can answer the question "is noni more effective with or without food?" i'd appreciate it.
thanks all. lp
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The Noni extract from BioPure or Nutramedix is a good option. You need to take it for at least a year. It is slow but it works well for intracellular infections.
I don't think the with food or without food is all that critical. Without food is usually what I do with the herbs. You should not take Noni and Samento together - at least 15 minutes apart if you are taking both.
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Dr. K.'s comments from a recent seminar:
PC-Noni (a concentrated energy-enhanced extract of Noni where the ingredients are made bio-available with a unique proprietary process) is, by experience the most reliable remedy to treat and eliminate intracellular microbes over time (Babesia, Bartonella, Ehrlichiosis, Herpes family). This process is slow (months) and very rewarding. Several German practitioners have found this amazing property mostly with darkfield microscopy. He is not aware of unbiased published studies to confirm this. However, it is consistent with ART findings and clinical observation.
Dosage: starting with 6 drops twice daily and i ncrease to a total of 3 dropper full/a day for 1 year.
He suggests that one use a one liter glass bottle of filtered water in the morning and add the herbs (liquid) herbs for the day one by one into the bottle. Since PC Samento and PC Noni are also carriers for sophisticated anti-Lyme frequencies, the bottle should be sucussed 50 times after introducing PC Samento and again after introducing PC Noni.
If other herbs are added to the bottle, they should be added last. The content should then be taken throughout the day and used up by bedtime.
It is best to take these herbs away from food. PC Samento has to be activated by acid. Either add the daily dose of Rechtsregulat (acidic ph) into the bottle or take on empty stomach, when stomach ph is low.
Take care.
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Is it OK to use PC-Noni without also being on Artemisinin or other Babs treatment? I've read about it being used with Art, but I can't begin Babesia treatment yet.
But I'm intrigued if it would also help with Bartonella, which I'm battling now.
Thanks, Jill
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thank you-and up for jill...
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What does it mean-the bottle should be "sucussed"
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Succussion is an expression from Homeopathy. You might want to read up on it.
The process of succussion is different from simple mixing and agitating. Hahnemann's succussion process was invented during the renaissance period of 18th century.
It means gripping the bottle in one hand and striking on the other palm as vigorously as possible. About 25 times.
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Jill, Re Artemisin - whether you can do both probably depends on your tolerance. Ask your doctor. I wouldn't.
Dr. K. has changed his protocol. He has found that taking Artemisinin in very high doses, the way the drug is used in China for treatment of Malaria, works better:
1200-1500 mg per day given 3 days in a row, repeating it after a 2-week break.
After the initial 2 courses, a 2-3 day course should be given once a month.
Contraindicated: early pregnancy
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beths
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Up- can you take PC Noni and samento at the same time?
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