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thelymelight
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I have had my KMT 24 device since July of last year and am having difficulty making progress with it..

I can only do a max of about 15- 20 mins per any program and even at that short time, I find the next day and even days after, I am somewhat achy and crashed and seem to get more dizzy, woozy, drowsy and not be as funtional,especially after taking my dose of abx...Does anyone else experience this?

Is the KMT causing alot of toxins to be released, thus I need to be on a good toxin binding agent?

Also does anyone know if it is better to just stick with one program, say # 2 for babesia, and use it everday, increasing the length of time, as I am able, up to doing the full program in one day and then go on and add another program ie- # 3 on a seperate day and again start to use it daily, (except for the one day I do # 2) until I can increase it to the full program?

OR is it better to do a different program each day, going thru all six in a week,but only being able to do each one for approx 15 mins?

This is what I have been doing and maybe that's why I am not seeing any benefits, as I am not doing any program in full yet....

Any suggestions of what is working for others would be greatly appreciated...Thanks

Lisa

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Everything I thought I'd read about the KMT, was that it was more gentle and helped the body eliminate toxins slowly. It sound like you really need to speak with Scott and Gigi.

Seems to me when you are focusing on something major and different everyday.....your body would be screaming "which way do I go, which way do I go".

The organs can only eliminate(detox) so fast and it doesn't sound to me like your liver, bladder, spleen, gall bladder and most importantly the colon are happy campers.

I believe slow wins the race with rife/alternative treatments also.

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Lymelight and others interested:

Map is right. You probably need to clean out your colon with colonics and something like www.drnatura.com. You probably need organ support. I have posted a lot on it.

If you still have amalgams in your mouth, using the KMT is not the best choice.

It would take a miracle to cure Lyme with amalgams in your mouth and/ or heavy metal toxicity remaining in your body.

If you feel this bad after using
KMT microcurrent, you are probably also releasing heavy metals. Anything (abx, herbs, even supplements, certainly energy devices, sauna, that cause a die-off will release heavy metals, whether you are aware of the fact that you are metal toxic or not.

Maybe Scott can post the text of a Klinghardt post
where he talks about this. I can't find it right now. About August 2006.

You should never use any killing agent (abx or herbals) or even the most gentle device, such as the microcurrent, without protecting yourself with the mop-up agents. You really answered your own questions in your post above.

Take chlorella, chitosan, cholestyramine, Destroxin, pectin, lots and lots of fiber (do the fruit/veggie mousse I posted about), and make sure you are eliminating. The above 3-4 times a day.

I would suggest, do a colon cleanse first, etc., and go back to the KMT then. Six programs is definitely too much for you. I never did six programs a week, even in my best times.

If you have amalgams in your mouth, whether they are "open" or under crowns, you are releasing mercury and other metals every time you open and close, chew, hot and cold, into your body. And very possibly into your brain.

Lyme bacteria, viruses and parasites, fungi, mold - live with the heavy metals. These Microbes are holding heavy metals in their cell walls.

Turning it around: Heavy metals live with Lyme bacteria, viruses, parasites, fungi, mold.

If you are treating Lyme, etc., you are releasing the heavy metals from the cell walls of the microbes. If you kill fungi, you release heavy metals; because fungi build up in our body to protect us from destruction by heavy metals, etc.

No anti yeast diet is going to do much for you until you get rid of the heavy metals. It just stresses your system even more because your eating choises frustrate you; and in the interim you suffer with gut problems. On and on and on.

If you treat heavy metals, Lyme and microbial symptoms will come to life because you are disturbing the microbes in their home territory.

The only way out, is the way through. The mop-up helps a l o t. If you don't, the toxins circulate and are reabsorbed into the various body compartments, including the brain. Before I knew better and before I knew Dr. K., I did NAET; by the inventor herself; that's how I ended up with the most severe brainfog, because I was unaware that neurotoxins move right on and settle down again unless you take precautions to catch them in the gut.

Per Dr. K.: where there is infection, there are heavy metals, unless you are a recent transplant from another planet. (not so sure what's up there!) Most chronically ill people have problems with heavy metal toxicity. If he were to say this here, he would say all people today are heavy metal toxic. He has never seen it any other way -- He started in the 80's treating metal toxicity.

Please read some of my posts. I think we have talked on the telephone several times years ago unless I am mistaken?

Take care.

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Thanks Gigi and others,

I have done some major metal detoxifying with DMPS and saunas and had a 2nd Hg challenge test done last June and I am just on the border of what is considered within the safe/normal range...abot a 2, but like my environmental dr. said, you should be at 0, as there is no safe level of Hg...so I have definetly improved, b/c my levels before were off the charts......

I do use chlorella when I use my KMT device (about 25 tablets, which is 5grams) and sometimes use pure Cholestyramine. pwdr or Apple Pectin, but I still seem to get this dizziness and wooziness...and I do not tolerate the cilantro....

I will try just working on one frequency for now, perhaps every other day and increase the time slowly, then when I can do a full program, then add anothe program from there and do the same thing with that..and get on some remedies for liver/kidney drainage...I am on a product which liquifies the lymphatic system, so that is being addressed...

Gigi, when using the device, how many times a day does one need to take a toxin binding agent?

and yes we did speak on the phone back in 2005, I believe it was...

Thanks
Lisa

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First, contact Nancy at BioTools to discuss. She should be helping you along.

It is not uncommon to need to start slow with the programs. You could benefit from binders such as chlorella if it is a toxin reaction.

I don't think it matters that much as to whether you use different programs to get started or if you work up on a given program. If you know for example that Lyme and Babesia are issues for you, 1 and 2 are the shortest. I would try to work up to the full program on those before you do much with the others. The others run much longer.

Ideally, you would have someone test you for the frequencies, but not everyone has ART available.

I agree with GiGi's advice on DrNatura. I also agree that if you have lots of metals, that is a concern and you would need lots of chlorella. GiGi posted some info from Dr. K on the use of the KMT with amalgams here on LN that you can find with the search.

Make sure your bowels are moving.

Here is the old post GiGi mentions

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=044874

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It's funny. I had the same 'toxin' trouble with the KMT in the beginning. I always work only on 2 programs at a time (in a week or month let's say), not more.

I FELT toxin build up almost immediately after I placed the electrodes and started running the programs. It took me few minutes to feel total exhaustion. Then I slowly build up on these 2 programs (ART tested), program 3 and 4 (none of the lyme!).

I only was tested good for lyme programs a few months after using 3 and 4. Only after my GI/ brain parasites were lower, I started using the lyme programs. For me, these programs 3-4 were wonderful, I got much faster improvements there than with programs 1 and 2 (lyme & co-infections), that act at a slower pace in my case (probably because lyme bacteria are more difficult to erradicate??).

But I could build up time in each of the 2 programs slowly but steady. I never used such programs in the night in the beginning, because I feared a collapse if I felt asleep. It took me a few days and about hundred of chorella pills/ day or more to be used to the machine.

Lots of mop up agents should work as Gigi/Scott said, taken 3-4 times a day minimum.

What you could also do is limit the area of treatment. Like if you use GI program, use electrodes only on belly, not whole body (head included).

Or if you decide for lyme programs, you could use where your symptoms are stronger (I did that often for arthritis). Even like this, the toxin build up can be strong. And probably you could then slowly enlarge the area you treat.

Just a suggestion... good luck!

Selma

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Thanks for the valuable info everyone.

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