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livinlyme
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I think my sons have been exposed to this.. eldest may be a carrier .. both had boils for the past 3 months...

local MD treated with ABX but that didnt get rid of it .. treated with a left over oen from FL that was double the strentgh that finally reduced it to a crusty scab after 2 months of it oozing..
this sounds like a form of LD to me.. not the new tag they put on it.. what say you all???

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My daughter had this; we suspect it was picked up from a visit we'd recently made to the hospital to see a sick friend.

Started as what looked like a raised "pimple" on her leg, in 24 hours looked totally frightening.

Dr. had to lance and drain it; in 24 hours it had nearly reached her leg bone in depth. Truly horrifying. Tons of exudate. Packed with gauze. They do a test; it was resistant to six types of antibiotics as I recall.

They had her in for re-checks and re-packings. Our LLMD monitored the situation and extended the ducks's scrip by a few weeks for safety's sake. It left an evil scar.

What do you mean by "treated with a left over oen from FL that was double the strength" ??

Did your MD do the test to see which kind of abx would kill it? That's really an absolute must.


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left over augmentin script 875 MG .. they only gave 500 mg i think it might have been 250..
they dont do much in the way of testing out here.. same place did a liver test on my eldest came back horribly damaged and then the repeat showed it was fine,.. I dont trust tests or md's much but what can you do?
oh btw ..
the one who they gave the abx to.. he broke out with more under his arm pit and he refuses to go back to MD anymore.. he has like 5 of them under his arm pit.. says he dont care anymore.. tired of the BS...wont even let me take a picture of it... I said we need to document it . he refuses

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MRSA in the sinus cavity is not uncommon. Refer to Mold Warriors by Dr. S. It is discussed there. In biotoxin illnesses, it is a contributor in some cases to the biotoxin load.

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My brother had a severe MRSA infection on his leg. He ended up being admitted for 80 days!!

He had to have a major part of his leg cut out. He was on Vacomycin for a long time.

This infection is no joke.

I would say that the wound should be cultured if it hasn't already.

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My husband has been repeatedly hospitalized for MRSA over the last few years- he has a seevere case of diabetes which means he is vulnerable to skin infections- and he got it from surgery for carpal tunnel in the hospital- and it has come back over & over systemically- he has been hospitalized maybe 5 times now- and almost died- antibiotics, of course, saved him.

Hey, mangosteen is supposed to be good for MRSA- seriously*)*!)*!)!

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My experience has been that exposure to MRSA usually occurs in the hospital or other

Type of health care setting.

It is usually extremely contagious! [Eek!]

Make sure to wear gloves when cleaning the wound.

Make sure to clean the shower/bathtub with bleach solution when child finishes bathing.

That is a very serious infection and is usually resistent to traditional antibiotics.

I have even worked with people who have vanco resistent infections.

Would a dermatologist be a better choice than a GP?

At least they would culture it.

Hugs,

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Yup- my h dear got it in the hospital!!!

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wow i am goign to get a suppply of
Staphaseptic

contagion seems to make sense since i thought something was seriously wrong when my eldest got the infections in his eye and then it began to move to his armpit..

then my youngest developed the boils on his leg and then under his armpits.. but these boobs out here are making it impossible to get abx .. they still refuse knowing that we were all on them for 3 years before moving to FL.. and since Fl we have not been on them .. 3 years on and almost 3 years off and we are all beginning to relapse severely..

I know if God calls my number sooner than later, I am more than willing to go at this point..
I can not stress to anyoen how important it is to keep treatment for this stupid bug.. super bug or LD what is the difference ... there is some serious issues going on.. bio-chemical war-fare is a serious issue..
forget going to war: WE ARE ALREADY AT WAR>>>>
with no cure ....
somebody wake up and smell the coffee... find a cure

Oh BTW I use bleach to dis-infect everything even dishes on a regular basis since finding out we all have LD..
can't afford to get a common cold or any bug floating around.. serious issue with that...
but my sons arent so clean.. if it werent for me going in and cleaning their rooms they would not know what clean is...
LindaD

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Not sure where you live-but I just saw a news report that said Maryland had the highest incidence of MRSA-it seems to be spreading in the schools and on campuses.

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quote:
Originally posted by livinlyme:
if it werent for me going in and cleaning their rooms they would not know what clean is...
LindaD

Such is the life of a mom to teenagers!! Mine's marginally better ONLY because she's a girl and has friends over.

I'm pretty sure there are lots of other infections it could be, not just MRSA.

MRSA can actually kill you in pretty short order.

It is quite truly "flesh eating bacteria" in that it obliterates everything in its path. My daughter's tiny pimple became -- in 24 hours --something resembling an awful stab wound, with angry red stripes extending out in all directions up and down her leg. The gauze they packed in it seemed to go on and on for about a mile. Every bandage change became a ritual in sterile procedure for both of us. I washed it with sterile pads soaked in colloidal silver.

I cannot imagine a doctor NOT testing for MRSA if there was any suspicion that's what it was. Perhaps indications such as length of time these were present made him feel these were not MRSA, since MRSA generally comes on with alarming speed. Still, if it were me I'd want to know exactly WHAT they were -- that's your right!!

Hope you can get to the bottom of it.

Michelle

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It's VERY serious. Tell your sons that their inattention to this could kill them...and you.

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http://tinyurl.com/ysneon

Antibacterial activity of a new, stable, aqueous extract of allicin against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus

British Journal of Biomedical Science, 2004 by Cutler, R R, Wilson, P
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Dec. 24, 2003 BBC.com

Garlic 'beats hospital superbug'

The ingredient which gives garlic its distinctive smell is the latest weapon in the battle to beat the hospital "superbug" MRSA.

University of East London researchers found allicin treated even the most antibiotic-resistant strains of the infection.

MRSA (Methecillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus) causes an estimated 2,000 deaths in UK hospitals each year.

Researchers are now testing allicin products in a six-month study.

Dr Ron Cutler and his team discovered the effectiveness of allicin in laboratory tests five years ago.

They found it can cure MRSA within weeks.

It is even effective against the newer strains which cannot be treated by the "last line of defence" antibiotics Vancomycin and Glycopeptides.

Fatal infections

The team have developed a nasal cream, pills and soaps.

The effect of the treatment was dramatic

Deborah Brown, patient

Initial trials have proved effective, so researchers will now test them in a six-month study of 200 volunteers including healthcare workers and patients.

The scientists hope the products will be used by people working in hospitals so they can prevent MRSA being passed on to patients, as well as the patients themselves.

MRSA organisms can live harmlessly in humans, carried in the nasal passages and on the skin, but they can cause fatal infections in immune-suppressed patients, the elderly, the young and those with surgical implants.

Dr Cutler told BBC News Online: "My aim would be to firstly work to try and reduce the carriage of MRSA amongst healthcare workers.

"But we would also hope to use allicin treatments for patients themselves."

He added: "The trials we have conducted so far show that this formulation is highly effective against MRSA, and it could save many lives.

"MRSA is causing a genuine crisis in our hospital system in Britain and worldwide. Antibiotics are increasingly ineffective, but we do have a powerful natural ally.

"Plant compounds have evolved over millions of years as chemical defence agents against infection.

"Garlic has been used in medicine for centuries, and it should be no surprise that it is effective against this very modern infection."

'Incredibly painful'

Deborah Brown, 34, from Rainham in Kent, contracted MRSA after a major spinal operation in November 2000.

Painful wounds on her spine failed to heal for two years, despite using the antibiotics and creams currently available.

But within two months of using the allicin creams and pills, her MRSA had virtually cleared and the wounds had begun to heal.

She said: "The effect of the treatment was dramatic - I am making a good recovery - but it was really awful at the time.

"Having weeping wounds on my back that never healed was incredibly painful and I became increasingly depressed as the MRSA didn't respond to repeated courses of antibiotics.

"If my case helps to show that allicin works against MRSA then I am glad that something good might come of it."

The research is to be published in the Journal of Biomedical Science next year. [ http://tinyurl.com/ysneon 2004 ]

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/3344325.stm

Published: 2003/12/24 01:09:59 GMT

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Where I worked, inpatient rehab for severely mentally ill, we had an outbreak. What is important to know-

MRSA stays wherever it was, the germs, for MONTHS like 6 months plus, I forget but literally MONTHS

So a doorknob handle touched by a person with those germs will have those germs there MONTHS later unless cleaned with bleach or other heavy duty anti-bacterial cleansers.

When we had the outbreak at work we had to isolate the affected individual and make him use clorox wipes on the toilet seat after he used it and have his own dishes and cutlery (because the washing up was done by clients and was not always done so well, sadly) and his own set of towels. He was supposed to sit only in HIS chair in each room and staff wiped doorknobs down with bleach after he opened doors!!!

We had AIDS/HIV+ people there at same time so it was a real health threat- a nightmare!!! They were scared of him!!

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My sister got MRSA and finally needed IV abx to get rid of it. Her husband is a prison guard and apparently it is rampant in the prisons. Another friend is a parole officer, was bitten by a spider and contracted MRSA which is not going away. Huge hole in the leg. Serious infection. The town that my sister lives in has a LOT of MRSA.

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Yes Michelle M , His "spider bite" became a hole in his leg about the size of a golf ball in depth and width,., it is scary to think that this can be called a spider bite and no one ran any cultures...

as far as finding out what it is now..
too late he will not go back to them he is "VERY UPSET" that he had to deal with the pain and the drainage and he wants nothing to do with them...

possibly it was not mrsa but it was some form of staph.. it was not a spider bite they do not manifest and spread..

CaliforniaLyme sorry to hear that they are having trouble in rehab.. I hope they ge that under control...

as for my son .. possibly this extra ABX was enough to stop it from spreading along with the bleaching I have been doing..

as for garlic we are Italian so that goes on without asking,,,

I am still going to get some Staphaseptic since I gather we arent going back to the MD any time soon.. if he keels over I guess we know it will be too late...
as with the ones lost in the Virgnia Schools..

thanks for your support and replies..

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Mangosteen has action against MRSA*)!
*)!***********************************Excerpt

1: Clin Microbiol Infect. 2005

Activity of medicinal plant extracts against hospital isolates of MRSA

Kitpipit L.Department of Microbiology, Faculty of Science, Prince of Songkla University, Hatyai, Songkla, Thailand. [email protected]

Aqueous and ethanolic extracts of ten traditional Thai medicinal plants were investigated for their ability to inhibit 35 hospital isolates of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).

Nine medicinal plants displayed activity against all isolates tested.


Ethanolic extracts of Garcinia mangostana, Punica granatum and Quercus infectoria were most effective...

PMID: 15882206

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michelle m said:

" I cannot imagine a doctor NOT testing for MRSA "

a friend was in the hosp with "cellulitis" that was growing at 2-3 inches an hour and not responding to abx.

it was closed-not oozing or anything. the docs refused to pop it or go in and get some to test. they said it was more dangerous-but as soon as it popped on it's own -4 days later- it was tested...was mrsa and responded to vanco.

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quote:
Originally posted by lpkayak:
michelle m said:

" I cannot imagine a doctor NOT testing for MRSA "

a friend was in the hosp with "cellulitis" that was growing at 2-3 inches an hour and not responding to abx.

it was closed-not oozing or anything. the docs refused to pop it or go in and get some to test. they said it was more dangerous-but as soon as it popped on it's own -4 days later- it was tested...was mrsa and responded to vanco.

Good point and well taken, Kayak.. Kinda like saying "I can't imagine a doctor using an ELISA to test for lyme..." Duh! So glad your friend got "lucky" and her spot opened before it was too late!! Wonder what imaginary protocol THAT duck was following??

Michelle

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