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bejoy
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I've had a problem tooth/extraction for about five years that is putting a heavy load on my system.

I had a root canal done on the same tooth twice. I had the tooth removed about five months ago.

I took two weeks of Clindamycin after the extraction.

I almost blacked out during the extraction, and had to get the dental assistant to put Cortef in my mouth during the surgery, then I got the serious shakes.

They don't want to do anything else for me. I think they see me as a liability issue.

I ended up with a dry socket and sinus opening that was about the most painful thing I have experienced, Lyme not withstanding.

It has not entirely stopped hurting since the extraction. My lymph nodes are swollen on that side, and my ear pounds. The sinus opening reopens periodically, although it seems to be closed now.

I've tried rinsing with colloidal silver and inserting antibiotic ointment. Nothing has gotten rid of the problem, including the penicillin IM injections I am currently doing.

I think I need to get it scraped, but we don't seem to have an environmental dentist short of a plane ride away who will go in there.

I have a great environmental dentist who is ordering a homeopathic to inject, but I don't know if that will handle the problem.

He says scraping the bone is too traumatic, besides he doesn't do surgery.

To those experienced with cavitations, what do you think I should do?

Should I just wait and see what happens from the homeopathic?

Should I ask my environmental dentist if he'll do the scraping, even though he doesn't want to, since he understands this issue?

Should I insist that a different local dentist do the surgery? I really I don't want to go through all that pain and not have it done properly.

Should I fly out of state for surgery? (It's all coming out of an equity loan that I will have to pay back after I get well enough to work full time.)

It's a big price to pay and I'm afraid of the pain, if it's anything like the dry socket and sinus opening.

Plus, I won't go under general anesthesia because of the state of my adrenals. If my blood pressure drops while I am unconscious and they are not monitoring, and I can't take my Cortef, I'm honestly afraid for my life.

Should I try a different oral antibiotic? (I'm really not keen on orals, as I have been through the whole leaky gut ordeal and recovery twice.)

Should I try ozone or peroxize injections?

Any other thoughts?

I'm still making great progress with healing lyme. I'm in the home stretch here, but I'm convinced I'll make bigger strides when this is handled.

Your experienced input is much appreciated!

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Let's see...the oral surgeon who removed the tooth will NOT do anything else for your pain and possible infection unless it is oozing pus?

Did you already pay this duck? I wouldn't do anything about any money I owed him either. Can a doctor really refuse to clean up an infection still there after he did surgery?

I hope someone comes along with some suggestions from experience to help you. I can't image having to handle this situation. I've got one root canal that is coming out once I get all the rest of my fillings redone.

This root canal only irritates me every once in a while. The last week it's been ticked off about something.

I hope you find some help soon bejoy.

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bejoy
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The oral surgeon doesn't acknowledge that there is an infection since he can't see any puss or inflamation.

He did a great job with a difficult extraction, but I don't think that cavitations, or bone infections are commonly acknowledged in the dental community.

Because of his great reputation, he he was able to get all of his money out of my equity before I ever sat down. The extraction itself wasn't that expensive, though. Yes, a very nice dental duck, but I think this problem is out of his league.

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Hi Bejoy:

Sorry to hear what you are going through. I was reading up on cavitations and found a site that has a lot of good info but be warned the photos are quite graphic.

I don't know anything about this dentist, but the information might help you. If you want to take a look, here's the site:

http://www.drshankland.com/osteocavitation_lesions.html

Looking

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My Bio-dentist does Ozone injection - I also have an issue with one of my cavitations where there is a polip that has some infection. He has had good sucess with the ozone.

Before any surgery I would opt to give the ozone a try. I know of a couple who had the ozone and it worked and it was a very easy procedure, not that tramatic.

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GiGi
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Bejoy, You can contact me privately, if you wish.


[email protected]

Take care.


Sharing my experiences here and elsewhere.

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Yes, please do refer to the link in Cave's post, but make sure you read Dr. Shanklands side of what happened to him in the second posting.

It reminds me so much of what has happened to Dr. J. I felt compelled to research this dentist after I posted the link to his site and easily found the whole story of his ordeal. Don't understand why only one side was posted originally -- doesn't seem right somehow.

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Wouldn't it be relatively straight forward to resolve the issue of whether these cavitation exist or not by autopsy?...I mean people donate their bodies to science, so why not just take a look and see whether those holes in the jawbone are there.
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Bejoy,

PLEASE, PLEASE, EMAIL ME THRU THIS SITE RE; THIS TOPIC!!!! I have loads of experience in this that could save you from tons of pain and suffering.

By the way, Shankland is a butcher. DO NOT go to him or believe a thing he has to say. He has been sued multiple times.

Anneke

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Bejoy, I had 2 cavitations removed without any problem this last May.

A more than decade old pain from my jawbone disappeared DURING bone 'scrapping'/ scooping immediately after extraction of an old canal root tooth. Even with anesthesy, I could feel some sort of pain when they were drilling/ cleaning my bone.

I believe your experience is not exceptional, many here had gone through the hell you're going through, if I understood well, due to bacteries being stirred.

I was dead afraid of suffering from spread of infections all over like many reported.

Fortunately nothing bad happened as I worked with both a biological dentist and my lyme doctor (who was present at the surgery and commanded everything, where to drill more etc). He was telling where to scrap with energetic testing ONLY. It does sound frightful, but I trusted him.

I even didn't take any other abx for my teeth, only continued with doxy as I had been just bitten by a tick the moment I did the teeth extractions.

What do your kinesiological tests say? Is there 'infection' in the jawbone?

Hope you'll find someone to help you cleaning your bone...

Many posts here point to the opposite direction, I know it's a difficult decision to do.

If you need more info, PM me.
Selma

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1 reply and 1 question:

REPLY:

I had exploratory jaw surgery in Oct 04 trying to figure out what was up with my jaw pain. He found caviation and did the scrape. It seemed to help me, quite frankly.

It was BEFORE I figured out/dx of Lyme!

QUESTION:

Is the cavitation a Lyme connected issue?

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Autopsy???

Anyone who would like to see what comes out of a cavitation, I can send you mine - of what's left after pathology lab. It was easily scooped out with a spoon - what formerly used to be referred to as jawbone. The spirochetes are frolicking in it!

I also photographed my husband's "mush removal" - what used to be solid jawbone before he trusted an ignorant dentist - who by the way - is now disabled himself with neuro problems. Mercury is a toxin. I can give anyone who wants it a detailed rundown of the damage and consequences of root canals and amalgam, etc. My advice - you don't want to know. Just take care of yourself, so that you don't ever have to go through it.
It costs health and lives and a lot of heartache. Mercury killed our infant son.

Nature has a way to pass on via mother and father the toxins to their children to assure reproduction? It's not really fair -but I don't argue with Mother Nature.

Did anyone ever give any thought as to why the spirochetes are occupying our reproductive organs?
One of their survival skills?


Take care.


Just sharing my real life experiences.

P.S. Bejoy, I know you will find the right way.

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GiGi

The mental images of the spiros swimming around in there - YUK!!!! Sounds awful!

I asked my dentist to make sure he biopsied ANYTHING he removed - of ciourse he didnt...said afterwards there was no need to....made me so mad!

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