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spookydew
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I have been having frequent headaches again. So I put a white tobbogin on my head one day and it went away very quickly.

Because, I also noticed that I felt very good from this, I started sleeping with it on. Now, I'm having fevers and chills constant.

I do not have acute problem such as sinus or dental infection. No other symptoms. Tried to pm some, but for some reason I totally forgot how. I did not want to post because it seems a silly thing to do.

But feels very soothing and no pain. Is this a good thing or bad thing to do. I'm not sure and need other opinions as I do have neurolyme. Funny thing is any other weight on my head would cause severe pain.

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You're sleeping with a bobsled on your head ??????

This brings a new dimension to alternative treatment.

Charlie

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Wow Spooky. That is actually kinda spooky!

If the toboggan was just helping, I would say go for it. But the chills and fever added to the picture sounds like something that should be checked out.

I can't think how the toboggan would hurt you unless it was too tight and caused you to pass out or if holding all that heat in might cause you to feel ill.

I bet a D.O. or someone trained in cranial therapy would have a good explanation.

Hope you get to feeling better soon with or without the hat.

Luvs

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Charlie!! [lol] [lol] [lol]
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quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
You're sleeping with a bobsled on your head ??????

This brings a new dimension to alternative treatment.

Charlie

[lol]

Sorry, have to admit I had a laugh after reading Charlie's post. I am sure you mean something else.

What is a white tobbogin? I googled it and came up with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toboggan

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OK...I have to contribute here, very seriously...seriously

I have found that covering my forehead, yes, usually immediately stops the frontal headache pain.

I sleep with an eyemask on my forehead.

Also, I should tell you that if you have pains in your body, I suggest that you note whether those body parts are covered. It turns out, as weird as this is, that light when hitting my skin causes pain. Cover up the pain goes away very quickly. Ignore it? All hell breaks loose over here.

Or I should say "did". I've improved with abx and Lyrica, but still I have to be careful, as some remains.

I don't know what a toboggan is, but a thick hat covering your head and forehead would be an interesting experiment.

At least it's winter soon, so you won't have to walk around like the dolt I presented my self as for this occasion!

Seriously...let me know!

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luvs2ride
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a toboggan is a thick knit hat. I actually learned the term from my yankee husband. Down south, we always just said "hand me my knit hat, please"

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HA HA HA! I thought it was a sled too! I was starting to think people have lost it more than usual.

Melissa

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HAR.

We call it a beanie, my husband calls it a sock hat.

A sled...that's what I thought, too.

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Hey, Spooky, that's not such a weird thing. I've seen cranial caps sold at medical supply places for migraines. They are made of some stretchy material so that they apply some pressure to your head if that is helpful in dealing with your headache.

You can put them in the freezer if cold is what helps your headache or you can put them in the microwave if heat is what helps your headache. Some of them have a drop down eye cover also, so that your head and eyes are in complete darkness and they are usually black in color.

When I suffered from migraines in the past, it helped to be in the dark, I couldn't stand any light.

Thanks for sharing that and I hope you don't mind the gentle teasing, it was funny that you used the term toboggan which means a sled to many people -- trying to envision that was amusing.

Looking

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Spooky, I knew instantly that you meant turban, but Charlie's comment cracked me up.

It's been a tough day--drove through two stop signs on the way home. couldn't remember the order for putting clothes in the washer (first?) then dryer, etc. etc.

I have a very literal mind, and I could see you with a white toboggan on your head.

I laughed til I cried, then seriously cried because I've been so scared today.

But then ended up laughing and it felt so good!

I know you didn't intend this effect--but thank you.

Hope your headache keeps improving!

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heat can make an infection worse. when I first started having back pain, I was told not to use a heating pad because there was suspicion that it was an infection.

after a couple years and I went to a few infectious disease and had a bone scan, they told me i didn't have an infection.

i started using the heating pad, and got much worse. started getting fevers, sweats, flu-liek symptoms.

that was when I noticed abx made my symptoms better.

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Here is a fact that has not been publicized very well, even with neurologists....
In the case of migraine, application of pressure to certain points on the head will stop the pain... for how long I don't know as I have never had migraines but it does work and is a method that some Dr's use to discriminate between migrane and other forms of headache.

The point that seems to work the best is the temple. I can only presume the cause of this effect is a disruption in the blood flow to the brain.

There was also a controversial manipulation of the skull that was said to relieve migrain like headache. This is said to do with compressing the sides of the skull,(slightly). This effect was said to cause the blood pressure in the skull change. The reason claimed for this effect is that the skull senses pressure via the seams in the bone.(You can usually feel these on your head and forehead, they feel like ridges). The stress on these joints is said to sense pressure and control the blood pressure as part of a feedback loop. Note that we are not talking a lot of pressure here, just slow application of pressure by the hands and then release (not a vice like the 3 stooges).

In any case, any time there is physical effect causeing (like an elasticized sleeve or stretchy strap on some head gear) a relief of headache symptoms, one needs to consider these migraine related possibilities........

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YES! Pressure on my head during migraines or global headaches has helped. I never got as creative to use a hat! (From cold climates so got the hat thing - love the image of a sled on the head!)

During horrible herx headaches - kill me now kind - I put ice on my forhead and eyes and heat on my neck and found some relief.

Seriously, I second Lyrica (and abx) and add Lamictal. Fevers, chills and sweats could be due to coinfections - Babesia was rather nasty and they all seemed to rage at the same time.

When I hurt, I also find that I need to increase my detox efforts and pay particular attention to my diet.

Hope you find some relief soon!

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Intracranial hypertension is when the head fills up with too much cerebrospinal fluid, and can't release it to course down the length of the spine, and can't reabsorb it into the blood stream.

This can happen for a variety of reasons, including inflammation in the neck and brain stem.

Pressure around the head may help ease the discomfort.

Supplements to reduce inflammation, and biodynamic craniosacral therapy may also help.

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Spooky, I mean no disrespect.....

Charlie's reply was exactly what went through my own mind, and cracked me up so bad I had tears coming out my eyes.... [Big Grin]

I guess some of us have a lot to learn about proper hat terminology.

This is pure speculation, but could it be that the additional heat from the hat caused some die-off of Bb in the head, hence the fevers and chills?

Heck, maybe this is a GOOD thing and we should all wear a white toboggan to bed at night......

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I had to take a break from the "knit hat". Just for headaches for short time was ok. But all night every night I ended up with fevers,chills, and sores on my head.

Then, I just felt worse. Felt like my head was full of fluid. Been there and done that and didn't want to go there again, so took a break and don't really want to do it again.

It was great to put on for headache for hour or so maybe every other day.

Not sure now what to do with myself. Don't want to travel to dr. Maybe a naturopathic dr., heard one was near here.

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Around here a knit hat is called a tooque. French word, not sure of the spelling.

I would sweat to death if I wore one to bed! I do know people that wear a thin nightcap (no, not booze)sort of like a maids cap. It's to keep the heat from escaping your body through your head.

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Phew...was I glad it wasn't a toboggan, a sled we used as kids at Tahoe.

I was ready to send my son out to nearest sporting good store .... hey if a sled works, I'm there!

I have to say, it was an extremely gloomy, painful morning, but this thread made me laugh until I cried [lol]

On the serious side Spooky, I have neuro LD and any heat irritates it badly, even heavy clothing. But I will always remember what one mainstream Md said, "If it helps do it".

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