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randibear
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I just got the book today and have finished about half of it.

He mentions a lyme diet and gives what foods you can eat. Takes about a month or so.

All natural, fruit and veggies, etc. fish.

Has anyone tried this? It's not exactly like a yeast diet but maybe close.

Anyone had success with this?

[ 11. June 2008, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: randibear ]

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What takes a month or so??

Is it mostly just eating protein and vegetables??

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randibear
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first week is water, some fruits, like black, blue, cherry, cranberry and raspberry. some nuts and seeds, some vegetables, and fish.

second week you can add some beans and legumes and oatmeal. then apples, banas, grapefruit and some daily.

then third week you add in other meats.

it covers pages and pages...

but it sounds good. it's for inflammation.

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randibear
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it's called "the lyme disease solution" by dr. s.

he mentions this diet as an inflammatio diet and says one man tried it and it dramatically helped him.

i'm half way through it and it's very good. odd thing, it has large type. must be for us lymies.

it mentions everythig -- antibiotics, treatment, alternative treatments, how the body works, detox.

i paid about 30 bucks at barnes & noble.

my new doc recommended i read it.

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Sounds like a yeast infection just waiting to happen.

Also doesn't sound very good because our bodies NEED protein on a daily basis to heal the lyme damage.

This book sounds suspect to me and there is no way that the diet sounds the least bit healthy.

Be careful.

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quote:
Originally posted by breezywings:
Sounds like a yeast infection just waiting to happen.

No kidding! But Dr S is well-known as far as Lyme goes.

Randi... be careful with oatmeal in case you are gluten intolerant. I don't know if you've already visited that idea or not.

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hmmm, oatmeal isn't added in until later. don't think i'm gluten intolerant and i've already had celiac testing and that was negative.

i haven't been to my new doc yet so i'll see what he says.

now if can figure out how to get there. it's in denton and i'm in fort worth. man, i'm bad with directions.

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Yes, many celiacs (and gluten intolerant people) do have trouble with oats. Curiously, though, oatmeal, itself, does not contain gluten - or at least not the same type as wheat.

Sometimes, during processing, wheat gets into the oats, so that might be one concern but the fabric of the oats itself works for some and not for others who can't do the gluten of wheat/barley/spelt. Finding a brand that is processed in a plant that does not process any wheat might help.

as for the fruits: " fruits, like black, blue, cherry, cranberry and raspberry" - these are all low-sugar, low glycemic and, if organic, the nutrients and antioxidants can be very excellent in many ways.

Of course, the amount is to be considered as is if eaten with other foods and if probiotics are employed. And, I'd want to read all that the doctor write about this as to if someone has an active candida infection.

All you can eat bowls or Jumba juice with their gallons-o-juice servings would certainly be way over the top.

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Bananas aren't low glycemic!

Randi... Go to www.mapquest.com and type in DR W's address [and yours].

It will tell you how to get there, step by step.

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you know diet kind of reminds me of what they gave my mom and she was diabetic.

he does say xilatol (sorry for spelling). it's that imitation sugar stuff and not until after about 3-4 weeks.

he keeps saying if you have reaction to anything cut it out and only add items individually, just not go gangbusting adding everything back in at once.

might be worth a try....

but i'm going back on my candex.

hoping that the new doc will give me diflucan. one doc gave me antibiotics for over 3 months and not once did she give me anything for yeast, even tho i specifically asked for it.

yah, right, and i ended up with c. difficile and massive yeast....ugh, i hate some doctors.

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The diet that Dr. S suggests in his book is specifically for inflammation associated with Lyme disease. He does not consider it a necessity for everyone who has lyme, but rather for those who have chronic inflammation. That is why it is called The Lyme Inflammation Diet.

In terms of the yeast, I'm sure he would weigh the long-term health ramifications of having chronic inflammation (he lists what those are in the book) versus dealing with yeast for a time.

The book is great, I would recommend it to anyone.

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Doing a food allergy elimination diet addresses inflammation, and is different from this. We just ate rice, some veggies, apples, pears, poultry or fish, then, after a couple of weeks, added things back one at a time, to "challenge" them and see if there was a reaction.

The net results were that we reacted to many things one they were challenged. Also, in the early elimination stage, some symptoms disappeared completely (like headache) and the rechallenge helped identify which foods had caused the symptoms in the first place.

You can be gluten intolerant or even allergic to gluten, without having celiac. Testing for celiac is not definitive, either, and biopsy could be false negative if you already are avoiding gluten (not for poster, but for others reading this)

In our house, we now avoid gluten and soy, but dairy was the biggest culprit. If I even get butter on my skin, my neuropathy gets worse in seconds!

It doesn't make sense to me that diet could really address a bacterial infection like Lyme, but it can reduce inflammation and therefore symptoms. We are off abx and resigned to living with Lyme, in whatever balance we can find, and diet was helpful, along with other approaches.

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Speaking of anti-inflammation diets, the recipes in the Perricone diet are absolutely DELICIOUS.

So, if you are going the way of anti-inflammation, check them out. I have picked them up and modified them many times, and have come up with a great bunch of meals. You can find some on the Oprah website.

Wishing you all a great day. mazou

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quote:
Originally posted by Shosty:
Doing a food allergy elimination diet addresses inflammation, and is different from this. We just ate rice, some veggies, apples, pears, poultry or fish, then, after a couple of weeks, added things back one at a time, to "challenge" them and see if there was a reaction.

The net results were that we reacted to many things one they were challenged. Also, in the early elimination stage, some symptoms disappeared completely (like headache) and the rechallenge helped identify which foods had caused the symptoms in the first place.

You can be gluten intolerant or even allergic to gluten, without having celiac. Testing for celiac is not definitive, either, and biopsy could be false negative if you already are avoiding gluten (not for poster, but for others reading this)

In our house, we now avoid gluten and soy, but dairy was the biggest culprit. If I even get butter on my skin, my neuropathy gets worse in seconds!

It doesn't make sense to me that diet could really address a bacterial infection like Lyme, but it can reduce inflammation and therefore symptoms. We are off abx and resigned to living with Lyme, in whatever balance we can find, and diet was helpful, along with other approaches.

It should make sense to you, think about it. The bacteria needs food to live and thrive in your system, just as you need food! However, the Lyme bacteria, coinfections can only live on certain foods. I believe I read the bacteria lives on glycogen. I know with Ankylosing Spondylitis which they thought I had at one time can be traced to specific bacteria and symptoms can just about completely vanish with the right diet, such as no starch. I was thinking of doing a no starch or The Body Ecology Diet(Candidiasis).

Why did you give up on treatment??? I know people who have had Lyme for years and are now free of symptoms. Don't give up.

Anti-inflammatory diets are dfferent for everyone! I have relatives who didn't get rid of inflammation till they went vegan because of all the research around meat and acidosis and what it does to joints. Meat is acidic, not good for joints and inflammation. Anyway, we are all different.

I just wish I knew what to do, some days I have no idea what to eat because I am fearful of what it will do!

Rich

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