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usyankee
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That may be the answer to why one gets sick after one goes off antibiotics when being treated for Lyme disease.

Many antibiotics are bacteriostatic. they hold the germ in check. They prevent it from multiplying (us humans know it as 'infertility'!!). It's like taking a (temporary) birth control pill for spirochetes.

(I think Flagl busts-a-move...they burst the cysts the spirochetes turn into to preserve (their) life)

Here's Lyme without an antibiotic:

2
4
8
16
256
65536
4294967296... a few hide in your heart muscles...kidneys...brain... where did those little buggers go?

Antibiotic can't reach the blood-brain barrior...like a mac truck trying to get through an ant hole...still there....multiplying
2
4
16
256...

You get the picture...


Now...if you were treated with antibiotics let's say at 65536, early in the disease, your immune system, if it is healthy enough, could finish off the rest. Even if the antibiotic is bacteriostatic, it keeps the buggers from multiplying... as long as you take the antibiotic...

256
256
256

Once you stop the antibiotic, it starts multiplying again...

256
65536
4294967296...
and so on and so forth...
You never get treated and it keeps going....
1,844674407E19 (I am using a calculator!!)

Your immune system can't keep up and your cup runneth over...and then it spreads through your entire body....so of course ALL systems are affected.....DUH!
And then you go to a rheumatologist, a cardiologist...an endocrinologist...a neurologist.

Any MD who knows you've been to many MDs he should start looking for diseases that can spread through your entire system...like in a holistic type of medicine. What a concept!

Soo.... if you can take an antibiotic to stop it, how long is the life cycle of a spirochete before it dies? Because if IT dies in a one month cycle, the ones IT made are starting THEIR own life cycle...and so forth.

And that is why longer antibiotics are needed ... for all the life cycles to the E19 power.

And what makes us think *they* don't have an immune system? We do, why not them? So when the enemy...the antibiotic is stopped, started...

problems with insurance ... stopped... started... they change shape and protect themselves from this biological warfare called...an antibiotic!

Of course, there is the theory of colloidal silver. It suffocates it-the enzyme of the spirochete.

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Allicin can cross the BBB (as can some other herbs).

I wonder: Does Colloidal silver pass through the BBB, too ?

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Buhner's book goes into great detail on the life cycle of Bb -

p. 52 - 55 . . . especially.


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What about the other escape mechanism. ( Intercellular )
Love your maths, Usyankee. Its a difficult beast to kill.

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wow US, that makes it so easy to understand!!
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http://tinyurl.com/2dmvs2


From the May 2007 issue of Clinical Advisor (home page: www.clinicaladvisor.com )


CONTROVERSY CONTINUES TO FUEL THE "LYME WAR"
By Virginia Savely, RN, FNP-C

*****

As two medical societies battle over its diagnosis and treatment, Lyme disease remains a frequently missed illness. Here is how to spot and treat it.

Excerpt:


" . . .To treat Lyme disease for a comparable number of life cycles, treatment would need to last 30 weeks. . . ."


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www.ilads.org/goldings.html


CONTROVERSIES IN NEUROBORRELIOSIS

- by Audrey Stein Goldings, M.D.


Updated October, 2002


EXCERPT:

(from section IV:. WHAT'S WRONG WITH ``CURRENT GUIDELINES FOR TREATMENT'' OF NEUROBORRELIOSIS?

. . .


THE CASE FOR PERSISTENT INFECTION

. . .

For those clinicians who have had extensive experience with chronic neuroborreliosis, more recent recommendations suggesting that a regime of only 20 to 28 days or even 6 weeks of intravenous antibiotics is sufficient for cure proved contrary to clinical experience.


That brief dosing does not appear to prevent relapse or improve long-term outcome dramatically in many cases.


**** Perhaps, as recent information has instructed, that is because the immune system does not begin to repair itself until the beginning of the fourth month of antibiotic treatment. ****


A trial of prolonged use of oral antibiotics seems more reasonable in many cases, given these circumstances.


Antibiotics used for chronic neuroborreliosis should be able to penetrate the blood-brain barrier, express activity against intracellular organisms, and assure good intraphagocytic penetration.


It is anticipated that the microbe during late disease has achieved maximal adaptation to its host environment. Also, because of the long generation time of the organism, lengthier therapy is warranted. . . .


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And, of course the work about lyme's biofilms and other life-cycle study by By Alan McDonald.


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It basically employs every defense mechanism a microbe can--

antigenic variation, cyst formation, cell-wall liquidation, blebbing,

intracellular tropism, motion faster than that of your fastest

immune cells, tropism at poorly vascularized sites, biofilm

formation

--because that's what it was designed by the CDC to do. They

wanted to make sure that nobody could be cured of this

disease. Now why would this need to be the case

with a bio-weapon intended for use against a hostile power

in a short-term war? Yep, thought so.

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