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GiGi
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Some time ago, I sent a similar "alert" on one of the threads surrounding the Bionic 880 and other light instruments, and I want to repeat it here for everyone interested.

I am not here to invite another debate.

This is simply a message that I would like people to have, because basically the discussions with various other light instruments were brought about by my original post on the benefits of the Bionic 880.

I am in frequent contact with Dr. W. who has been using the Bionic 880 for eight years helping to clear out Lyme Disease peranently for many, many patients. I am also in contact with others who are using and are very familiar with the instrument.

My husband is clearly Lyme and co-infection free (after nine treatments) and we are working on some of the collateral/residual problems, especially clearing the toxic heavy metals from the body which was very difficult for him as long as he was still Lyme infected. He is doing extremely well, and now in need of good physical therapy to rebuild.

Since I have always had an interest in anything that might help anyone, I asked the question again, about the use of different lights, and have been told again that: ( I am translating here as good as I can)

``The Bionic 880 and its forerunner have been tested and changed as needed over a period of years to become a successful instrument, for many different applications, but especially for Borrelia infections. Certain frequencies and nosodes are the activators, aimed at a planned /intended reaction. If the frequencies used are not suitable/correct/the right ones that have proven themselves; if the power/strength is not available ; if the proper nosodes are not used; any or all these can elicit what is referred to a disarray (I liken it to a mess - gg), i.e. uncontrollable reactions and awakening of encapsulated diseases can or may happen = A breaking out or outbreak of uncontrolled/uncontrollable reactions.''

Having worked with the Bionic 880 now for a number of weeks and other lights/lasers long before that, I have learned not to underestimate the power of light. This is what I want to share.

Take care and be well.

[ 18. August 2008, 08:25 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]

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Congrats on husband and on yourself, Gudrun.

So the nosodes are not testing for him, I suppose? Nor for you anymore?

So you got a lyme rash? Could you get is easily under control again only with the Bionic or did you need loads of other parallel treatments (to clean, etc)?

Are you symptomless again (no more EM rashes)?
Funny, my borrelia usually wakes up again after an EM rash too. It appears from nothing, after a stress, without any new reinfection.

I got it again into remission after more than 2 months of fight after this last revival, but I'm sure borrelia is hiding in me like it was in your body.

My brother is moving to Stuttgart by the end of the year, so very close to Pforzheim.

I hope dr. W. is still charging not that much for his treatments. I can get now a free place to stay so it will be worth to go.

congrats for hubby and thanks again for sharing,
Selma

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Hi Gigi,

You said, "I am not here to invite another debate."

With all due respect, if you post on a discussion board, by its very nature, you invite debate.

There are other methods of conveying information over the Internet that limit or control responses -- personal websites and blogs are two that come to mind. The purpose of a discussion board is to discuss.

Although I know that it is sometimes difficult for people who are sick to read lively disagreement, I think that polite discussion is vital to helping people make sound treatment decisions in the face of a very complex disease.

Regards,

Shaz

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hi GiGi, thanks for your message. good to see you back here, and REALLY good to hear your husband continues to improve. [Smile]

i think the people experimenting with the lightworks (i'm not one of them, i'm just making an educated guess from reading the lightworks threads) know they are doing just that -- experimenting -- and realize the many possible dangers that come with using one's body as a guinea pig.

unfortunately, due to limited funds and the nature of the illness and the lyme controversy, lots of us are left to experiment on ourselves in any way we can in an attempt to get better. it's not always safe, but i think that's how we learn; by brave people willing to try untested treatments on themselves. and so far it seems like lots of folks are having positive results from the lightworks, and i'm happy for them!

take good care, and much love to you and your husband.

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Gigi, Pleased for both of you, that your husband is doing well.

Germany holds no interest to me at the moment, as I am not looking for a quick fix. I could not stand to be overwhelmed with Toxins.

I have not received my LTwrks yet, as it takes longer for UK delivery. But some relief from pain and inflammation, and a good nights Kip, will do me fine.

Many try different way's to deal with this, and this is my choice.

But thank you, for your concern.

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thank you for the info and update, congrats on the continued success and please keep us updated.

cheers

derek

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Hello GiGi,

You said your husband is lyme free after 9 treatments. How long does one treatment take? And what's the cost of one treatment? Do you have an email to ask you some more?

Best luck

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shazdancer - I'm not sure you saw the previous thread that contained some comments that were far beyond civil discussion.

A poster has a right to post a thread dedicated to a particular topic and purpose of education, not debate, but THEIR experience and research.


Polite questions are always welcome but the kind of vicious attacks from the previous posts were simply uncalled for and were of no help at all. If someone is honestly concerned, they can simply state they have some concerns and leave it at that.


Everyone who was interested suffered when the thread was deleted, although I understand why. We need information about this.

There is way to post a thread and then lock it to further replies, so that the material is there for reference.


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Thanks for posting this, Keebler. [Smile] I'm going in October!

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evgen -

some of the posts about the Bionic 880, very sadly, have been deleted.

Still, you might search here for any threads that still exist.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=search;search_forum=1

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I see this as a very hopeful treatment and would be there in an instant if that were possible.

It is something to consider. I hope GiGi will come back and offer you some more direct materials.


This is just one piece about the Bionic 880:


http://www.naturheilpraxis-mallorca.com/englisch/press6.htm


Borreliosis treatment without antibiotics


More than 100 patients with borreliosis were treated successfully with the bio-photone-therapy. The treatment profile is described as follows:


Bionic 880: Borreliosis-ampuls D5, D6, D8, D10, D12, D15, D30, D60, D100, D200. Settings on the Bionic 880: Power 100%, frequency F3, time: 395 sec.


Treatments: Fix the 10 borrelioses-nosodes below the sternum. These 8 points are treated: both inner wrists, both ears, the frontal part of the brain (3. eye``), 7. chakra/limbic system, thymus, solar plexus.


Each point is treated for 395 seconds. Cycle of treatment: twice a week for three weeks, then examination. Is the test result positive, another treatment follows. After that, a month of waiting.


A total of 108 patients were treated and put under observation for a year. 90% of the treatments were successful. Reconvalescence of patients who were treated constantly with antibiotics took several weeks longer.


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What I can't Fathom is, if the 9 treatments have been a cure, why buy the Bionic 880 and bring it home.

Have I got some information wrong here, ??? Am I making a mistake. ? Apologize, If I have got this wrong.

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No matter how you cut this, healing is a process.

Even if lyme were to disappear in all of us tonight, we have heavy metals, other viruses and infections, etc. to come to terms with and the healing of tissue.


The absence of an infection will not automatically heal tissue. Healing is a process that requires an evolution of support. Light helps support tissue / cells to heal as much as they can. But you can't force it. It takes time.


That's how I see it.


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evgen, feel free to e-mail me at [email protected]
I would be happy to answer.

Selma, feel free to e-mail me - I have lost much of the desire to share here. You missed some of the excitement when you were away. I felt like I needed to lock all doors & windows and the need for a bodyguard. I am serious - no fun!

Herxuk, yes, you might be missing the fact that Lyme Disease is a multifactorial disease. It is never only Lyme. I don't know any Lymie who only has Lyme and have met hundreds over the years. So some of the problems can be dealt with and (hopefully) repaired after Lyme is eradicated. My husband no longer has Lyme Disease. It's dead gone. Now we are taking care of the collaterals. A major event is that the body now lets go of heavy metals. This was always and still is Dr. K.'s mantra - they go together. You can't get rid of one unless you get rid of the other. Microbes love the metals, and metals are wrapped up in fungi, cholesterol, biofilm, etc, the body's way to protect itself from the deadly onslaught of toxic heavy metals. Now that the photon treatment, the complete protocol, has taken care of and eradicated all Lyme and co-infections, the body is starting to release the heavy metals and needs little urging to let go. But one has to be prepared and protect for the fallout - to avoid redistribution and resettling of the metals elsewhere. They easily are absorbed in the gut and start their merry journey all over again.
We are trying to not let this happen. So I treat -- again with photons and respective protocols.

I am fully convinced that the toxic metals create the fitting environment for the pathogens to settle in. Dr. K.: "there is a direct relationship between the amount of microbes that live in you and the amount of toxic metals".
From my perspective: Now the microbes are gone and the metals are leaving.

If you can't get rid of fungi and associated problems, think heavy metals. Lyme may be long gone. Something to think about.

I do energetic testing to find the problem and treat. Most of you do not believe in energetic testing, so in order to avoid another "debate", I will not explain it. But due to the lack of conclusive heavy metal lab testing -- (they only tell what is coming out - they don't tell how much and where it remains in the body) I test energetically the way I was trained and with this help we weave our way through the ups and downs of the detox hoping to avoid healing crises. Being patient helps.

Knowing that we do not deal with Lyme any longer feels like the most precious gift!

Keebler, you are so wise and understand. Thank you.

Take care.

P.S. I am treating a good friend right now with the Bionic880. He finished his 5th treatment today and has cleared all the different potencies of nosodes. The Lyme is gone. He had relatively little fallout from the Lyme, no herxheimer reaction whatsoever, a little pinch here and there, made sure he did wading in the river to push the lympathics or used our Air Energy and Chi-machine. Took lots of organ support (tested energetically) and did not suffer at all.

He is a Klinghardt patient and has done a lot of detoxing work. This finalizes the Lyme Disease and all co-infections until retesting a month from now and several monthly checks after that to make sure all remains gone.

He already tested energetically for heavy metals today - no metal showed when tested until today, the fifth treatment. So we will wait a bit and then approach that.

I am following the Dr. W. protocol to the T. I test everything before we start the instrument. And absolutely no nosodes without the photons in certain frequencies. Nosodes deserve respect.

And no abx when treating with photons - should be stopped a while before treatments start. With abx, the bugs go hide and the treatments fail.
Average number of treatments is 5 - 8. My husband needed 9. Structural problems have to be addressed also. Dr. W. does chiropractic work and a number of other modalities to handle that part. I use a Scenar (for home use)on my husband and myself. Google it if you don't know what it is.

My friend left here tonight happy as a lark!

[ 27. August 2008, 03:34 AM: Message edited by: GiGi ]

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Yes, I missed the hot thread during my long trip. Sorry to know that.

I'll write to you privately then.

I still stick to the Chinese proverb, "what is true is what works".

Many people prefer the other way: "what is true is what I believe, even if it doesn't work".

I would also buy a machine myself, if I could. I mean, it sounds like a wonder machine, in case of re-infection, for example, or for many other illnesses. Or to clear my hiding borrelia!

Great info about metals and infection. Amazing to see that when borrelia finally goes, there goes the metals away. I hope your husband is not suffering in too much pain (I got particularly awful pains when too many metals are released too fast from my joints), nor too much herxing.

Selma

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There is a "permanent" (unless the admins kill it, because I won't) thread on bionic 880, where we can try to keep all informational posts....

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=070037#000000

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Gigi, I see what you mean, restoration is very important, and getting rid of toxins where ever they come from have to be dealt with.

I am not so young myself, so internal organs get more worn out, on top of the destructive element that the disease puts upon the body. I think it makes detox harder.

Getting this treatment is not out of my reach, but as the treatment seems to be more invasive, and quite harsh, I fear taking a sledge hammer to it, as I don't think my body can cope with it just now.

I have chosen to chip away at this disease, by any means I can, until I see some better day's. So lets say, the Bionic treatment is on hold for me, at the moment.

Was these caustic, sarcastic remarks by Selma, directed at me. ?? if so, they are the kind of snide remarks that are not necessary. I asked Gigi a question, her answer to me, was not at all sarcastic.

I know now for what purpose she needs to use this.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

Sorry Gigi, as I felt the need to ask this question, as I said, I am considering the treatment, sometime hopefully in the near future.

Hope your Hubby continues to improve. Best wishes.

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up -

Photons may also move toxic heavy metals under certain circumstances.

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