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Pauline
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Have the book Lyme and Rife on order and am seriously considering buying a Rife machine based on what I read in the Top Ten Lyme Treatments.

However, financially it is a burden to purchase one so would really love some more feedback on whether it's worked for you personally before I make a final decision.

Thanks, Pauline

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suggest you contact a local ly7me support group. Do know of a few in the Hartford group who do/did it.

http://www.ctlymedisease.org

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www.lymecommunity.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

This site is all about RIFE and lyme.


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I bought the one referred to as Joe's machine. Only $440. I began using it AFTER I was off abx, but I credit it and Xango with KEEPING me off abx.

[ 07-03-2013, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: Lymetoo ]

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Pauline
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Lymetoo- but do you think you still have Lyme, or did it cure it? Still have symptoms?
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it has been my savior. i relapsed hard after 11 months on all combos of abx. definitly worth the money and time. go for it. it sounds totally cookey but it works..
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it has been my savior. i relapsed hard after 11 months on all combos of abx. definitly worth the money and time. go for it. it sounds totally cookey but it works..
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Warning: there are as many rife machine variations as there are automobiles. As there are people. As there are people with different germ loads.

You see my point!

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Thanks for your help... I guess I'm trying to figure out if it actually cures you, or just helps you get by and function.
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Pauline,

I'll save you the time. DT of Dan Machines says he will not say CURE....not yet. If this modality could guarantee cure, EVERYONE would be jumping on the bandwagon.

There is no magic bullet yet.

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I think i read a post by Bryan Rosner, when someone asked him if he were completely cured or not. He replied that he zaps himself about 5 min a month, or was it every 2 weeks, in response to a few symptoms.

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Sigh.

I guess it's better than being on abx indefinitely.

This is depressing [Frown]

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pauline:
Lymetoo- but do you think you still have Lyme, or did it cure it? Still have symptoms?

Cured?? Did someone say "cured?" Not possible if you've had it as long as I have.

I have neck pain and lower back pain that may or may not be from Lyme.

Fatigue to some extent. Otherwise, doing pretty good, all things considered.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pauline:

I guess it's better than being on abx indefinitely.
[/QB]

Exactly. That is why I decided to go with Rife. Four years of abx nearly did me in.

If you haven't had Lyme all that long, then there is a good chance you can beat it.

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The word "cure" is deceptive. You can't confirm when a systemic infection like Lyme is entirely gone from the system. We don't have the technology at this time, but rather it's not "cured" you should be after (Although I believe it is possible, it's just not scientifically provable at this moment with the work that has been done)

If you can get to a point of being asymptomatic, and you stay that way after coming off all treatment, that really should be satisfying enough, even if you have to return occasionally to a change of diet, or doing a little treatment.

A cure is the goal, but it's like proving God exists at the moment. Until we can prove it as fact, it will remain a belief or a claim.

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Predators do exist that prey on the Lyme community. I am not saying that the Rife machine does or does not work. I have never used one.

I surfed a little for some info on Rife and found that some chap built a microscope into which he could focus electromagnetic energy (if I'm capturing it all correctly). It seems though that he did this to a small sample, perhaps very small.

I don't want to offend any advocates of the device, especially if it works. I am skeptical though.

Scientific gains are not simple. It seems that a lot of lay people know a lot about this device, which is said to do something that would be the envy of even an experienced Lyme Specialist Physician. It sounds like overstatement.

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Here is a link to Rife Machine success stories
http://hometown.aol.com/theskyking/myhomepage/listings.html

I purchased a GB-4000 two 1/2 weeks ago - have HERXed three+ times...and am planning to go-for-it again tomorrow evening.

I recommend evening use, then some GABA to get through the night. Sure helps me.

I believe it will take a guess-t-mate of two years to get ahead of the spirochete colonies and feel semi-normal again.

Quick Answer - YES! Rifing is working for me at this time.

If you live in Arizona ~ I share. [Smile]

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I tested out a borrowed machine recently. My throat closed after about two seconds of seeing if I could turn the machine on!! I did notice that the machine was set to run, so whatever frequency it had was what I got zapped with.

Has anyone had such a fast reaction to so little time? I was surprised. I'm assuming this was an immediate herx. Do I have to be so sensitive?! Geez - I could probably just think about it and herx - lol.

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quote:
Originally posted by anthropisces:
Predators do exist that prey on the Lyme community. I am not saying that the Rife machine does or does not work. I have never used one.

I surfed a little for some info on Rife and found that some chap built a microscope into which he could focus electromagnetic energy (if I'm capturing it all correctly). It seems though that he did this to a small sample, perhaps very small.

I don't want to offend any advocates of the device, especially if it works. I am skeptical though.

Scientific gains are not simple. It seems that a lot of lay people know a lot about this device, which is said to do something that would be the envy of even an experienced Lyme Specialist Physician. It sounds like overstatement.

I can tell you that there are people that prey on the lyme community, but those selling rife are not. Usually it's the herbs/potion segment.
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I've only met one or two people so far, out of probably 50- or 100 that I researched, who did Rife therapy for more than one year consistently, following the instructions, and using the appropriate frequencies, who did not see results or improve.

Almost all reports have been positive. Something is going on there, and that needs to be investigated before you make a decision to use one.

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I am in the process of attempting to set up a primary and limited study regarding rife. Simply put, I will find a sample of patients who's infections can be verified via some other method than strict clinical interpretation (ie. Positive lab work) and then attempt to treat them exclusively with rife for a time being to see if any labwork converts to negative. Ideally, this would be set up against a common, easy to cure infection such as strep throat

Personally, I'm not convinced of their effectiveness because their potential for placebo effect is so high, objectively. Between their out of pocket expense, the way they are often marketed as a "magic box" the "establishment" doesn't want you to know about, and people's own desire to get better, it sort of creates a perfect storm to feel some sort of reaction when used.

There just hasn't been enough objective data to illustrate that rife is an effective treatment modality. Some people will swear up and down that it works, and if it has given you an improvement that's great, but as a medical professional or scientist I couldn't recommend it as anything beyond an experimental treatment.

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Blackstone, My esteemed neurologist always said
"If you want to know if a therapy is effective ,
ASK THE PATIENT ".

I have followed rife posts a long time. There are too many sane people here who have had
credible improvement to dismiss it . That is what counts. I am not sitting around waiting for a study if credible people swear by its efficacy .

And as lymetutu said , if money can not be made on it , who will study ?

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The problem with testing it against a strep infection is that it will only prove that it works or does not work against strep.

I am quite sure it will not work effectively against all the illnesses that there are frequencies listed for.

There are only two things I have verified by personal experience that it has any effect on.

H-pylori by my personal experience and Lyme bacteria by my wifes experience. I have tried it on several other molds and bacteria with no perceivable effect.

These were not strict lab tests, but on the occasion when it worked the odds that it was anything but a direct effect is very small, since I had some controls in place.

From my personal experience, the only question is how exactly it is working, not if.

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Blackstone,

I have to agree with AnnXYZ. Also, the same could be said for abx and placebo affect....

There are at least two people who make rife machines at cost for Lymies...they don't make a penny.

I haven't used rife yet, but believe, given everything that I have read and researched, that it is a valuable treatment for many.

There are some other hocus pocus treatments bieng offered, but I do not believe that Rife is one of them.

That is not to say there may be some who are marketing bad rife equipment.

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Proving that the methodology works against strep (or another "simple" bacterium) would provide a basis for grant money for further study. Does it work against gram positive? Gram negative? Cell wall deficient? Viruses? We could investigate the effectiveness of Rife therapy, as well as its limitations. Nobody expects an antibiotic to take down a virus, because we understand the limitations of the treatment. With more investigation into Rife, we could begin to scientifically document if, where, why, and how it works.


I'm afraid there is a flaw in the "Ask the patient" dynamic when it comes to establishing the effectiveness of new treatment. This is the reason there are double-blind placebo controlled studies. You need to isolate the response to ensure it is coming from the treatment at hand, not any other factors, as best as you are able. In a clinical setting it is very important to ask the patient how they are reacting, but when you're trying to make an objective judgment, a subjective aspect such as patient impression is secondary. It is akin to handing you a rock said to keep tigers away. Do you see any tigers around? No? Does that mean the rock is working? No, of course not. That would be a flawed inference, simply because there are variables that are unaccounted for..

Feelfit - Please understand that the methodology and effectiveness of antibiotics as a whole is not in question, and that is the key difference. It has been scientifically proven that X antibiotic will cause Y bacteria to die through Z phenomenon. One of the unknowns is taken out of the equation, as compared to rife. There is so much controversy over rife because nobody has of yet scientifically proven that the methodology behind rife works.

Please keep in mind, that there is money to be made in Rife, if it works. Pharmaceutical companies and equipment manufactures would begin making rife machines, just like they have MRIs, X-rays, ultrasounds and so forth. There is no reason to believe it couldn't be profited from. Your next rife machine could come with a GE label on it!

I am not saying that Rife is inherently a flawed therapy, simply that I think physicians and researchers need to put more effort into a conclusive investigation.

I hate seeing patients put so much faith in something that has not been tested beyond anecdotal accounts. Wouldn't you like your insurance to cover a rife machine some day? I think most alternative therapies need to be brought out of the shadows - The valid ones brought into the standard practice of medicine, the invalid ones revealed as the opportunistic scams they are, and medicine will be the better for it.

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Yes blackstone, you have some valid points.

I agree that integrative medicine should be brought out of the shadows. Yes, I would love several alternative therapies that I have tried w/personal success

cranial Sacral Therapy for instance, to be covered by insurance. Yes to a Rife machine as well.

The point is is that I am sick now, have already lost 15-20 years to this awful disease. I don't have time for double blind studies that take years to process.

I believe that I am sane enough and educated well enough to make smart decisions about my treatment. Treatment that I need now.

Speaking with folks who have had results (not just a few) is good enough for me for now.

Lymies have waited since the 70's for research and studies for this wretched disease and guess what? We're still pretty much at square one.

If you are able to set up your study w/rife, I sure would be interested in your results though.

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Blackstone , I agree that physicians and researchers need to put more effort into investigation, but I am skeptical of the results to be yielded .

Look at the millions of $$$$ raised for MS research. Some of the drugs pushed here are not allowed in other countries , because of lack of evidence that they work in studies. There are so many diseases where milllions invested yield no significant benefit .

Meanwhile , as you lament patients resorting to anecdotal treatments , most of us here , have NO INSURANCE , no doctor to help us , and see our lives passing by us as we STRUGGLE . You will have to politely pardon us for wishing we could have a life .

I am sure that someone will investigate lyme or treatment when it looks like there may be a payoff . Money , and money ALONE is what drives our health care " system".

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I have been doing some research on Rife therapy and have read some information pointing to its not being safe. What is your opinions as to this therapies safety?
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what studies pauline? Would you mind referencing them?

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quote:
Originally posted by Annxyz:
Money , and money ALONE is what drives our health care " system". [/QB]

Exactly. So there's no way they're ever going to fund research on using Rife machines.

No way in ****.

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Cure Lyme, and many, many doctors lose their jobs!
Kiss MS, ALS gravy trains good-bye.

I sure hope so! [group hug]

Rife, Bee-Venom, Enzymes, Probiotics,
Antibiotics, Infra Red, are all serious canidates for a real cure for Lyme and the Co-Infections.
Our government isn't this slow, they're dragging thier feet. Why?

Why do ticks have all these cooties anyways? And why does ground zero fall near Lyme, CT?

The president got treatment for his bite. As if they would ever tell us what his treat is/was.
I'm sure it didn't follow the CDC's protocol!

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Rife does work for lyme, but I think the claims of it working on other illnesses simply isn't true. It does not get rid of viruses or yeast. The reason it kills the "roaming" lyme spirochete is because of it's hard shell. The freq maims the spirochete and allow the immune system to finish it off(thus the intense herxes even up to several days later). Sometime sit can kill the schete outright.

I've had colds, flus and other infections and rife hasn't gotten rid of any of them, nor can it get rid of yeast.


Also, rife requires your immune system to be free(in my experience). I've rifed during nasty colds/flus and it doesn't do a thing during those times for me because my immune system is simply preoccupied.

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I haven't tried Rife but infrared light really helped me alot. The drug companies have no interest in making devices that will cut into their profits... or worse - they want people to continue to be ill for a variety of reasons.

Studies can also be tainted by bribes given to researchers, labs or universities. Don't be naive. The world is corrupt... There's a reason why so many diseases are not being "cured" & why valid therapies are being suppressed.

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I doubt that a scientific study of Rife machines would get funding.

The ideal scene for the pharmaceutical industry is everyone on one or more prescription drugs for life.

With their billions, they largely control continuing medical education (CME) classes that doctors are required to take, research, what gets submitted to medical journals, etc. And, there are the drug "detailers," ex-cheerleaders, etc., who give out gifts, trips, etc. and know every prescription each doctor in their area writes because the AMA sells them the data.

Anyway the data in this threat on Rife is interesting in itself.

Best,

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Cass ,

I have come to feel like a sheep awaiting fleecing when it concerns ANY healthcare organization or professional . I hate to sound jaded but I think the health industry views us simply as opportunities for economic profit - PERIOD .

It seems to me I have read NUMEROUS reports of good results from the GB 4000 . I am not sure if the EMEM machines are as strong . I wish they were as they are lots cheaper . I plan to stay on ABX one more year , then give up and try rife . I am impressed with Ernie's results and that of so many others who finally had to stop ABX .

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I NEED to believe in something. The COST for IV therapy at my LLMD (ND) office has eatten a huge hole in our savings.

S O - RIFE it is.

Three weeks ago I used the frequency generator [FG] so much that my inner ears - where I have huge trouble - were swollen, with sharp pain in the left ear. I was fine in two days.

This had nothing to do with a cold or any other infection or allergy. All I do is stay home in my cave in lower-mid-Arizona.

The settings I used most were for Lyme #466, 467, 468 & CANDIDA #122.

The settings that I received the largest HERX from was for CANDIDA.

I have just used our FG again for Candida, Mold & Thrush. My ears were fine when I started...now they ring plenty.

HERX away Grace -- I believe in Bergy & his wife's treatment. That's the path we are following.

It is not voodoo. GB-4000 has been a God-Send.

Thank You Lord!! and thank you for Royal Rife's genius.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pauline:
Have the book Lyme and Rife on order and am seriously considering buying a Rife machine based on what I read in the Top Ten Lyme Treatments.

However, financially it is a burden to purchase one so would really love some more feedback on whether it's worked for you personally before I make a final decision.

Thanks, Pauline


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Sorry about the previous post, I'm new at this. My wife and I have been using a rife machine for quite some time now and I have to say that "yes" it is working. As with all lyme related things, it does not happen overnight. There is one thing that I would like to pass on however. Get the book Lyme Disease and Rife Machines. By Bryan Rosner. Amazon has it for about 30.00. Even if you have no intention of buying a rife machine, this book has explained lyme disease better than any other thing I have read to date. It talks about drugs, other treatments and how and what to expect. While it does talk about rife machines, it should be called something else because it covers so much more. I could talk to you for along time about this, but look into it and good luck. Stay positive and stubborn!
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For those using the GB-4000 there is one weakness that can cause it not to work.

The aluminum wire used for the hand and foot contacts breaks after they are used for a while.

They break just above the short sleeve by either end if the wire. On the red wire you can see the insulation will have a white discoloration ring where it is breaking.

You can cut the broken end off and reconnect it or use a fine copper wire which will last longer.

Always check this carefully once in a while because it will break eventually.

D Bergy

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I have been on orally abx since jan,08,then Iv started May till aug.

I was thinking of also starting with rifing.

Is it too early?
Can you rife and do abx together?
Thanks
Had Lyme for 6 years(dx this Jan).

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There are many very different machines referred to as Rife. The most powerful,by far,is what's commonly called the Doug coil machine. It's very effective against Borrelia. When Bryan R wrote his first book there was no one building them for sale. Now there are at least two companies making finished coil machines of which I am aware.

Here's some links-


http://coilmachines.com/
http://coilmachines4less.googlepages.com/coilmachines4less

http://www.lymebook.com/letter.htm

I was nearly symptom free after 6 months of IM Bicillin and ketek. I stopped abx and bought a BioSolutions contact machine. Within 3 months I relapsed. I have since given the machine away because I couldn't honorably have taken money for it. I am now using a coil machine for Lyme and Bartonella. It seems to me to be very effective in treating Lyme but the Bart herxes were too much for me and I am going to do a couple of months of Bart abx to get the load down and then try to coil for Bart. I expect it will take 1-2 yrs to be cured.

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Thank you Janet for sharing . Rife looks very promising after reading so many personal testimonies by untelligent articulate people who
made great progress and wanted to live life without ABX .

I have to wonder how effective the drugs really are as everyone seems to spiral downhill as soon as they stop meds.

Janet , how much did your Doug coil cost ? Is it hard to use? Where did you purchase?

Do you think it can kill the coinfections ?

How are you doing now ?

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Janet, I am on the waitlist for a Coil machine. Money is tight lately, so I'm getting second thoughts about purchasing one, because I don't know if it will work for me. I am looking for someone in central to northern NJ who would be willing to let me try their machine. Please let me know. Thanks.

Blackstone-the reason why companies would not start making money on building these machines is because the building plans are public. Anyone could make one if he wanted to. The materials and building plans are easily purchased.

It may be a little difficult for someone who has brain-fog, or who isn't mechanically inclined (like myself), but it can be done.

It is not as profitable as medicating people, and then further medicating to counteract the side effects of the first medicine!

I am purchasing one from somebody who achieved success with this device, and now makes them for fellow lymies at just above cost. He also has a money back guarantee, so if it doesn't work for you, you can return it. Nothing suspicious sounding there.

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I've been using an EMEM rife machine for the past 2 1/2 years. I started abx treatment after a few months because I was already on that path when I bought the machine.

I have read that rife and abx don't work well together. Don't know if that's true or not. I think the theory that they don't work well together has something to do with abx driving borrelia into cyst form making it harder to kill but I could be wrong.

I use muscle testing to determine frequencies and times to run them rather than using lyme frequencies because after years of using muscle testing, I trust it is best for me.

The first few months I used rife, before starting abx, my heels started to improve a great deal. Before rife they were hard and numb with big, deep cracks in them. Now they are almost normal. Much easier to walk.

Sometimes I feel better right after using rife but then I incorporate that I don't want big herxes in my muscle testing because I have a problem with toxins and can become very ill. I'm already on hefty abx and don't want to flood my system with toxins.

I've had a large lump in my neck for a number of months that keeps getting infected. One doctor said she thought it was a blocked salivary gland, another one says he thinks it immune complexes.

Finally, yesterday I tested that I needed rickettesia freqencies specifically for my neck. I had never treated the lump before with rife. I will be treating it 10X, 4 days apart. After the first treatment, the lump is almost gone. I can eat without pain. I am amazed.

I don't know if it works for lyme. I have read stories of a number of people that say it has helped them a great deal. Some say that rife took them to remission. I'd settle for that.

In my view it is another tool. I'm not expecting miraculous cures but who knows, anything is possible.

Terry

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That's pretty cool, Terry!

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I recently tried 432hz (supposed to be for Lyme and candida) on an EMEM machine for 10 seconds, and my sinuses ran for half a week afterwards. Next time I'll do 5 seconds!
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important video of rife with bacteria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvU9JrWycFI

anthony Holland has done other experiments with rife, though not on humans. you can check out hs website at skidmore college where he teaches music.

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My brother's classmate brought his wife back from being very very sick. He did not think she would make it. She used a Doug coil and after a month started getting her brain back.

She got to about 90% in two years and rifes twice a month now. I bought a Doug Coil rife machine for about 1800. The guys phone rings throughout the day. He was very nice and helpful and I got the machine in about two weeks, delivered as promised.

I am on my 5 treatment for Bart (18 days). I herx pretty good about 24 hours after the 2nd 60 second treatment. I did 3 min 30 last night about treat about every three days. Bryan Roser says do not rush and hurt yourself. I have not herxed yet today. It is working if you go by my herx.

There is a setting for Chlamydia Pneumonia but I want to start Bart first. While treating Bart my terrible CPN cough is pretty much gone. Maybe cough once or twice a day now instead of every 5 minutes. I used to cough so hard I thought I would black out or break a vessel.

I am treating both sons for Lyme and they are both herxing and my daughter for candida. She is herxing also. My sons are still on ABX, while I am doing most of the Dr K cocktail with colloidal silver. I am seeing progress and am not clobbering my liver with ABX which had become a problem even with all the liver helpers I was taking.

I stopped my UVB/Ozone IV's and am just doing the supplements and the Coil. I plan to add a magnetic pulser (probably sota) to move the spiros out of the joints and tissues with out blood.

My LLMD wants me to go back on ABX but I will stick with this for 3 months at least to see if I get my brain back.

Bottom line: Too soon to tell but promising so far. After talking with the person I mentioned above I knew this would work, she is a pretty unimpeachable source. However I realize there are reasons we do not know yet for so many of these therapies not to work for each one of us.

All the Best, MattH

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MattH, what frex are you using for bart?

I heard this may work well for Lyme but not coinfections, but I guess we are all different.

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It saved my life. I was an abx failure.

But I will say I don't think it works for other issues. At all. Actually, I find that when I have the flu or other non-lyme infection, the rife is rather ineffective. The rife machine works by deforming the hard spirochete shell, and then causing an immune response to finish them off. If your immune system is burdened with another infection, forget it. I actually don't use the rife machine when I have another bug anymore.

I'd be very leery of using it for anything other than a hard-shelled bacteria like spirochetes. It doesn't work for yeast, either.

The B3, doug coil, and mag pulser are the machines I use.

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CD57 I am using 832 for Bart. I am also using Cumanda, Garlic and Arteminisin. Again not saying this will work but seems to be causing definite herx.

Mike30 what kind of mag pulser are you using? Do you know the Gauss rating? I see the Sota version is 6000.

All the Best, MattH

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BTW, if anyone tries to sell a Rife machine on the board, please report it to the moderators.

Just click on "report a post" on the bottom right of the post.

Thanks!

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