LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » Cowden protocol - yeast overgrowth question

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Cowden protocol - yeast overgrowth question
tosho
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 10191

Icon 1 posted      Profile for tosho     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi,

Probably I will add full cowden soon, but I am concerned whether this protocol is safe in terms of yeast overgrowth.

Some nutramedix herbs have even antifungal action, but all these herbs are alcohol tinctures.
And alcohol is a big NO in anti-yeast diet.

Do you think it is safe?

Thank you!
Tosho

--------------------
[Bb WB igm+] [B.henselae PCR+] [Chlamydia pneum.igm+igg+] [EBV igm-igg+]

Posts: 844 | From Poland | Registered: Sep 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lymetoo
Moderator
Member # 743

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Lymetoo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'm pretty sure it's OK.... but do be careful not to take tinidazole or flagyl while ingesting even tiny amounts of alcohol.

--------------------
--Lymetutu--
Opinions, not medical advice!

Posts: 95436 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
kam
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 3410

Icon 1 posted      Profile for kam     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I wondered about that too when I first started.

I am getting ready to start my 5th month.

I really like the program.

I feel my life has been more consistant since on it.

I like the idea of taking drops in a glass and adding water compared to taking pills.

I stopped taking probiotics when I was first on it and learned I needed to continue with the probiotics.

I have been out of probiotics for about a week or so now and am looking forward to when I am back on it.

I have a problem with looking like and feeling like I am about 8 months pregnant at times.

The probiotics seem to help that.

Posts: 15927 | From Became too sick to work or do household chores in 2001. | Registered: Dec 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
sparkle7
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 10397

Icon 1 posted      Profile for sparkle7     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
If you put the herbs in boiled water it can burn off the alcohol. Try not to make the water too hot or it may make the herbs less effective.

This should be OK to do but you may want to contact Nutramedix to check.

I used a product called Yeast-cleanse by Solaray which cleared up the yeast in a few days. I think I might have mentioned this & you said your were sensitive to it. Not sure if it was you, though???

Posts: 7772 | From Northeast, again... | Registered: Oct 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
lymie tony z
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 5130

Icon 1 posted      Profile for lymie tony z     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Anyone with the bloated stomach should tell you that you have a yeast problem...so either get on

anti-fungals or do probiotics...pill form so as not to get any bad effects from the yogurt inert

ingredients....


However.....I can't see how this guys protochol does anything but make nutrisystems rich at our expense....

Seems to me you should be more worried about an unregulated unmeasured bottle of alcohol and

herbs then you might be by a regulated and measured and FDA approved for destruction of

infections by pill form or IV abx or IM form of delivery....

But hey whatever floats your boat!

Not for me however! Been there, did all that jazz...... NONE of it EVER did me any good at all...!

oh....they did take the buldge out of my wallet! LOL!

zman

--------------------
I am not a doctor...opinions expressed are from personal experiences only and should never be viewed as coming from a healthcare provider. zman

Posts: 2527 | From safety harbor florida(origin Cleve., Ohio | Registered: Jan 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Mike30
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 2581

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Mike30     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:
I'm pretty sure it's OK.... but do be careful not to take tinidazole or flagyl while ingesting even tiny amounts of alcohol.

I've been taking samento extract with tini and so far no problems. I think it's just too small of an amount of alcohol in the drops.
Posts: 181 | From chicago | Registered: Jun 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Brussels
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 13480

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Brussels     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Tosho, hi! You take so many abx and you are concerned with few drops of alcohol?? [Smile]

I mean, most abx destroy the flora and that, for most people is one of the major CAUSES of yeast!

I don't think drinking few drops of alcohol will do even the tenth of harm that a single abx does to the flora and yeast growth.

My opinion.

As I told you, I've been on tinctures and herbs for years, literally, and don't have the GI issues I had before I started on them.

One week of abx, most of them, causes me diarrhea, bloating, and terrible tummy pains, and it takes many more days or weeks to get better after.

If you are still concerned with the alcoholic content, add boiling water and let sit for a few minutes like sparkle said.

Good luck with Cowden. I read you are finally herxing, congrats!

Selma

Posts: 6196 | From Brussels | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
tosho
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 10191

Icon 1 posted      Profile for tosho     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thank's a lot for all responses!

--------------------
[Bb WB igm+] [B.henselae PCR+] [Chlamydia pneum.igm+igg+] [EBV igm-igg+]

Posts: 844 | From Poland | Registered: Sep 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
brf
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 8748

Icon 1 posted      Profile for brf     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Just remember ...

it can be hot water but not boiling water.

bf

Posts: 191 | From Ontario | Registered: Feb 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.