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Annxyz
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I am weary of ABX and feel I am putting myself at risk if I continue another year . I am considering rife , but feel I want to invest in one that may REALLY work . Unfortunately , finances are tight .

Question: Does the EMEM machine have enough power to really put many people back on their feet or significantly improve ?

Is the GB 4000 a lot stronger than the EMEM ?

It seems the Doug coil shows best results , but it seems awfully expensive .

The EMEMs are affordable , but do they work as well?

There are probably many here considering this issue , so your comments are appreciated greatly .

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I was just watching a Brian Rosner video blog post.

He was saying that it may be good to use a combination of Rife machines just like people use a combination of abx...

So much for cost...

In the future, it seems like people should try to create groups so they could buy a bunch of devices & alternate between them & share resources.

Some places may have more access to devices owned by health care providers but I haven't seem many around here in NJ with Rife machines.

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Dan Tracy

Very good...very good.

I have added SUPER Strain Fermented Probiotics and Essential Oils from Young Living. All others are inferior.

Good Luck.

Trout [Wink]

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Trout- What essential oils are you using from Young Living?

I am using a doug coil machine. I got a Dan Tracy machine and will be working that into my rifing soon.

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Trout scout : What specific improvement have you noticed ? Are you less fatigued? How long have you used it , and how long did it take to get better ?

Also , had you been on ABX a long time before
using the Tracy machine ?

We would love to know HOW it has helped. Are you able to work now ?

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Sparkle ,

Who can afford TWO machines ? Most of us can not .

I wonder if the lightworks could be combined with rife therapy after a person reaches a certain point of improvement .

Is your fatigue better with the lightworks
use ? Are you functioning better ?

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Maureen, can you share about how well the Doug coil has worked to improve your function ?

Have you used it a long time ? Also , were you diagnosed in the early stage , or are you a long term lyme lady?


Thank you for sharing .

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Dumb question, but does insurance help pay for ANY portion of these machines?

Yea, I hear y'all laughing at me!

Just curious,

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I use the EMEM double tube analog and it
does work on babesia and lyme ... for the
money it does the job, but you always should
combine other protocols with any Rife machine ...

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Annxyz- I stopped doing everything for a bit... I had to because I'm in the middle of moving cross-country. I didn't want to risk it & go though some big herx while I'm in the middle of moving...

I've had some other stress factors in my life - so it's been a bit difficult for me. Things pass, though...

I just recently started using the LightWorks for about 20 minutes every other day. I was having alot of back pain.

After I move, I'm going to figure out some kind of protocol. I did an "energetic" test & it says I don't have Lyme anymore but I'm not sure I trust them entirely.

I am interested in Rife machines. I'm not sure what would happen if you combine them with infrared light. One person e-mailed me & said that she had a bad reaction from combining Rife & the Bionic 880.

The LightWorks is not as strong as the Bionic 880 - so I don't know how it would be if you combined the 2. If you do try it - go slow & have detox ingredients on hand.

I think the best thing would to try to find other people interested in using alternative therapies like the Rife & see if you can share the expenses... You don't really need to use it for that long, so it seems it would be good if you can work with a group on this.

Just an idea...

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Could someone please post Dan's phone number or PM me?So are there different types of emem? Thanks Joyce
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smartbuck ,

What therapies are you using with rife ? Has your improvement been significant or minor ?

How long did you use it before getting better ?
Are you able to work again?

Your answers will help a lot of us to asess the therapy and machines. THANKS!

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quote:
Originally posted by terri3boys:
Dumb question, but does insurance help pay for ANY portion of these machines?


No, but Dan's EMEM is very affordable because he makes them at cost. Therefore it's not really a "cheap" alternative.....it's cheap because he makes it so!

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quote:
Originally posted by Healing in Santa Cruz:
Could someone please post Dan's phone number or PM me?So are there different types of emem? Thanks Joyce

PM sent

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Thanks Lymetutu, I appreciate your reply. What a nice man he is. Glad I called.
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Here's a link I would...

http://www.resonantlight.com/

Notice please the BLUE light.

Download the CAFL..have a lot of printer paper ready.

http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/CAFL.htm

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We use both GB-4000 and a Rifelabs EMX. Both work well but it seems that the EMX has better penetration in the spine.

The advantage of the GB-4000 is the ability to run multiple frequencies at once. This makes it faster. The disadvantage is you have to hold contacts.

The advantage of the EMX is no holding on to anything. The disadvantage is one frequency at a time, and the stock function generator is basic and has no sweep or other fancy options. Of course you can hook up any better function generator to eliminate this limitation.

I have hooked up my GB-4000 to the EMX and ran multiple frequencies with a couple of adaptors.

This worked for a while, but my GB started to malfunction with this arrangement. I may have damaged it but I have not tested it yet. It is an expensive machine to wreck.

If buying a new device today, I would go with a plasma tube dervice for penetration and get the most powerful one I could afford. The Doug Coil is still likely the best for Lyme, but it is pretty much a single disease device and I use my frequency devices for several things.

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I will also point out that the most powerful plasma devices are likely the PERL and the other is Bruce Stenulson's version of an EMEM. Both are higher priced but are research quality devices.

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quote:
Originally posted by Healing in Santa Cruz:
Thanks Lymetutu, I appreciate your reply. What a nice man he is. Glad I called.

He sure is! [Smile]

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Bergy , I thank you for sharing . How much do these stronger plasma devices cost?

I am really in the dark and on a tight budget .
This is so helpful.

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I think the PERL is around $5,000 and Bruce Stenulsons devices run around half that amount.

You can get the cheapest EMEM out there and it should help a lot. Our EMEM is not a high end device, but it is very effective.

I do not think it is worth spending lots of money right off the bat. A cheaper machine does 90% of what the more expensive ones do.

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