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seekhelp
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I'm starting a thread to provide updates on my progress with Humaworm. A holistic doctor ran some Extended GI Panel test through Diagnos-Techs in May-08. The test claimed I have amoeba-like parasites (equivocal), as well as Roundworm and Tapeworm.

I spent the $30 to try a 30-day trial. I'm 5 days into it and so far NOTHING. I haven't seen a thing. I hope I'm not "flushing" another $30 literally down the drain. All those great testimonials on their web page as always.

Oh well, at least it gives me entertainment when I look in the toilet. lol. I really start to wonder about the reliability of these alternative tests. Maybe on day #10 I'll be convinced. [Smile]

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Hi Seek,

I found that you have to take a lot of different herbs over a period of time to flush out theses parasites.

Taking Humaworm or any antiparasitic for only 5 days won't produce results right away. They can be very stubborn and don't want to let go.


You have to be patient and persistant. The results can be very rewarding if you keep at it though. Hang In There, glm

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Hello! I just started my fourth round of Humaworm yesterday.

My first time I saw what I think are Liver Flukes on day 9. Second time I didn't see anything. Third time I saw these things (note: these aren't mine but a photo I found on the internet - mine look exactly like this, though):

http://www.curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=31076

I passed these with my liver flush that I now do right after a parasite cleanse.

I passed these things again two weeks ago even though I wasn't flushing or doing a cleanse. I was taking Milk Thistle, LiverCare and Burbur to get my liver enzymes back to normal so perhaps these things are from the liver. Some speculate that they are "eggs" of either nematodes (roundworm) or trematodes (flukes).

Regardless of what type of cleanse is used it can take a while to clean your body of parasites. I do a cleanse every 90 days and will continue to cleanse every six months for life. I have my husband do a cleanse every 6 months. My daughter won't do one.

There are some folks here that have "seen" remarkable results with Humaworm.

Many (I think most, but not sure) parasites are microscopic and you won't see anything. I don't "look" real close LOL. If you experience bloating it's a sure sign the Humaworm is working.

My sister is on her fifth (or so) Humaworm cleanse - she tries real hard not to look - but she saw what she thought was a nematode the other day. EW.

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ive ordered and will be treating for 30 days with HW based on clinical symptoms.

will report back once there is something to report about.

cheers and worms be damned

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Sometimes it takes awhile for the herbs to build up in your system. Likewise, they continue working after the cleanse is done for a bit since they are still in your system. That's why one shouldn't do any liver flushes or cleanses right after because it will flush out the herbs.

I'm just finishing my 4th round and I still have stuff coming out of me!

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I received mine today. Happy dumping.
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lol. Now a great reason to look in the toilet, right? [Smile] The excitement we live for!

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I received mine today. Happy dumping.


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Oops! I wait a week prior to doing my Liver Flush because like Alison says the herbs stay in the system. Humaworm and curezone (both under Liver Flush and Parasite) recommend this.
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gigi told me (in a post somewhere here) that she didn't have good results until she added other stuff

someone suggested the product isn't as good after the fire-may be missing some ingredient or something

i sent mine back because i couldn't contact them

i'll be following this thread to see if you guys get results

is it a pill or powder or what?

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I'm not sure how it could be missing ingredients? Did GiGi say that? The manufacturer explicitly states every herb in the capsule and the associated quantity of each.
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i'll have to go find the thread...i think it says gigi and humaworm in the titla...but i'm going to my primary soon so can't do it til later...i could be wrong...i'm pretty sick

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here's what gigi said...gotta go

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Ip, yes, I received my stuff. But honestly, after having done DrNatura.com, I will not do Humana again once it is used up. I agree, they either forgot part of the forula or it just is not as effective as Natura. I also got quite perturbed that there is no contact number to reach anybody. They had our money for at least six weeks before they finally send the stuff. Fire or not, they should find a way to at least respond to their customers.

I also do not care about the little plastic baggies. How in the world do you know for sure what is in it. At least I would like to see it in a container even if it costs a couple dollars more.

I finally got something out of it by adding the Colonis from Dr.Natura to it. But I definitely will not purchase from them again. It is too unprofessional and I am not comfortable with that.

Hope things are working okay for you.

Take care.

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I believe Gigi had stated that she didn't like that the packaging was unprofessional. My husband has used Humaworm before and it comes in a little ziplock baggie with the ingredients typed onto it. From what I understand, the guy who makes it uses fresh herbs and learned about herbs from his Native American grandmother. There is a forum on curezone and he will answer questions, seems to be a person who genuinely believes in helping people.

My husband didn't 'see' anything when he was on it (I was breastfeeding at the time so I didn't do it), but a few times his stomach would feel bloated or crawly like. His nose also became red and inflamed for a day or so, then went away, but that was just his experience!

Take care,
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How would one know they have parasites?

Are there symptoms?

[Eek!] [Eek!]

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There are various stool / saliva tests and some say "clincal diagnosis." Go figure, huh? Can you tell I'm a black & white kind of person? [Smile]

Diagnos-Techs is a firm in Washington that offers soemthing called an Extended GI panel. it tests for parasites and amoeba-like creatures and others.

Several people on this forum swear by that company. I'm always very suspicious when a lab doesn't accept insurance, finds stuff no regular lab ever does, and charges more to do so. I had many, many stool tests for ova & parasites from Quest and nothing ever showed up in 10+ years.

One try from Diagnos-Techs and they miraculously found roundworm, tapeworm, amoeba-like creatures, and severe colon inflammation.

i guess the proof is in the pudding (or should I say something that looks like pudding - hahaha).

Regarding symptomns, well there's a million of them according to holistic practicioners. Humaworm's website lists 50+. So now, it muddies the picture more as these symptoms could be Lyme, Bart, Babs, Mold, Candida, Heavy Metals, and now parasites. [Smile]


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How would one know they have parasites?

Are there symptoms?

[Eek!] [Eek!]


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If you go to the Humaworm website there are links that describe in detail what symptoms of parasite infestation are.

Also, as far as not seeing any results, remember that many parasites are microscopic and can't be seen when they are killed and excreted because they are so small. According to Humaworm, it targets these types of parasites as well, which is good news for us with Lyme and co-infections.

I tend to believe this is true because my Bartonella symptoms rage when I take Humaworm so I know that it is getting at it.

Further, you can kill parasites and not have massive intestinal herxing and also often parasites can be hidden in the stool and unless you feel incredibly brave and want to spend time going through your toilet bowl with a chopstick (gross, I'm sorry!) you may not see them. Also many parasites look like (again, apologies for the gross) corn or mushrooms or tomato skins so they may be there just hard to identify.

A note on the ziploc baggies. I love them because it keeps the cost down, and every order comes with a sheet of paper that lists all the ingredients in the pills so I don't feel like I'm missing out in the least.

Cheers,

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Since Lyme in Oct-07, my life has went down the toilet. [Smile] Another analogy.
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Dizzyup:

I did Dr. Natura several years ago and thought it was effective but there is more "stuff" to take. I'm not sure if you can use Dr.Natura with Lyme treatment so I would ask your Dr.

I like Humaworm because you just take two pills in the am and again in the pm on an empty stomach. You do need to keep your bowels moving -Dr. Natura's stuff ensures that.

Once I'm not taking so many supplements I would definately do the Dr. Natura again but for now I like Humaworm and I know for sure it's doing something.

Regardless of what you use if you have stubborn parasites it prbably take more than one cleanse to rid your body. Then it's important to do maintenance because it's so easy to become reinfected.

As far as testing and diagnosing - just about everyone has parasites so I think we should assume we have them and do the cleanse.

It's gross and disgusting and I wish it wasn't true but, well, I've learned not to rule anything out.

seek: Good analagy!

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I have some I'm not going to use; if anyone wants to buy it email me at [email protected] I understand it's been tough to get, since their fire.

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15+ days into Humaworm..nothing. Oh well, just another $30 + S/H paid. lol. At least gives me more entertainment when using the bathroom. [Smile]

I had such high hopes when Diagnos-Techs magically found all those worms in my lab tests that Quest couldn't. Another example of the miracle of non-insurance labs.

I'll continue to report in 5-10 days.

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I found Humaworm to be a good combination of herbs [including Artemisia for babesia] that appealed to me also because it is so easy to use [ie 2 caps x 2].
I didn't see any nasties, but it's sometimes hard to tell, isn't it?! My stomach did feel flatter after the month's course.
I understand that the owner will customise the combo to your health condition after you have tried the standard version once, so after 3 months [minimum gap between courses recommended] you could have one that is geared to babesia or whatever.
I'm thinking of reordering and getting a course for my son, as he's addicted to sushi!

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Seek, I know you are discouraged, but these parasites are very intelligent and are master survivalists.


I took antiparasitic herbs for 6 months before the large ascaris worms left.


I am still trying to get rid of more, but got the largest ones out.


All of the supplements you are taking could be feeding them according to Dr. K.

THIS IS A BATTLE and you just have to stay focused and wear them down.


15-30 days on an antiparasitic is nothing compared to the bigger picture.


Please don't give up. Believe me when you finally see these things in the toilet you won't believe your eyes. [dizzy]

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glm,

Thanks for your feedback. I thought you can't take Humaworm more than 30 days or 2 cycles per year. You went six months straight on this?

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No, I was taking other antiparasitic herbs from the Monastery Of Herbs.


They have different sets of herbs targeting each pathogen. Examples: Lyme....bart...babs...filarial worms...round worms.....mycoplasma....herpes......mycobacterium....fungus....and many more. They are expensive and I can't afford them any more.


There are different herbs in each set so it confuses the parasite.

That is why I didn't have to take a 30 day break.

It was rough but worth it. You have to realize that these suckers are laying around 200,000 eggs a day.


That is partly why this is such a battle. I would consider Humaworm as well, but I would like to have something to take in-between.


Seek, do you get why this is such a battle? The pictures at www.lymephotos.com says it all for me.

This is a formidable enemy we are dealing with.


I heard the inbetween herbs aren't available right now.


You just have to keep throwing different antiparasitic protocols at these beasts until they can't stand it any more and leave,


Hope this makes sense,

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Well...I have interesting news for you all. I just completed my 30 days of Humaworm. Every day was excitement looking / prodding in my toilet waiting to see the big 14" worm crawling, liver flukes flying out, worms popping out of my ears and nose, etc. [Smile]

Nothing happened on the first 29 days. But wouldn't you know it after taking the last dose I carefully looked in my toilet and saw something. It was plain as day staring at me. I finally knew what happened.....

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And the conclusion down in the toilet.....

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Seek,

It obviously helped some people. Everything you try will be a gamble. There are no guarantees. If you try 10 things and 2 or 3 of them work, sometimes that is the way it is.

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Seek,

I had to take antiparasitic herbs for 6 months before I saw any results. I was able to do repetetive doses because they were all different combos.


It cost me approx bet $200-300 a month. I then started the salt-c and all hell broke loose. However, the herbs played a big role in killing these pathogens.


In over the last 20 yrs I have spent approx $500,000.00 trying to get well. If you have been sick for a long time these parasites have embedded themselves in the body.


They are master survivalists and don't want to let go. No matter what protocol you do, it has to be repetative to work and you may need a number of different modalities.

If you are looking for a short cure/remisson and find it, let us know. The salt/c is working well for me, but I have been on it for 2yrs and probably will always use it as maintenance.


It is also very inexpensive. It may not be for everyone and that's okay. Find what works for you.

I hope you took Derek up on his kind offer.


Hope you get help,


Gael

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Many parasites are microscopic, too.

I'm in the last few days of my fourth cleanse and unfortunately I have the parasites that you can actually "see" - not that I want to see them!

I am seeing a NP in a couple of weeks and will talk to him about something I can take either in-between or perhaps a new cleanse entirely. Humaworm is most econmical, though.

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I have one of these Quest stool tests coming up. How do they test it? Do they culture it or look at it under a scope or something? It seems like it would be a hard test to screw up...either something is there or it's not....

And if it's any consolation Humaworm did zippo for me as well....

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$500k for treatment Gael? OMG. I think I'll be dead first if it costs that. Either I win the lotto or buy a tombstone now. [Frown] What on earth costed that much? How could you afford that much?
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Perhaps the parasites they found were too small for you to see? I know amebas are single celled. Or maybe the humaworm wasn't strong enough to get them? The below citations used Diagnostechs to test for the parasites, but used Nitazoxanide (Alinia) to treat, not herbs...

These abstracts might be interesting to you:

ACG 2006: The American College of Gastroenterology Annual Scientific
Meeting
Abstract Number: 1000
Contact Person: William P. Stuppy, MD
Department/Institution: Private Practice
Address: 637 Lucas Ave., #212
City/State/Zip/Country: Los Angeles, CA, 90017, United States
Phone: (323) 464-4242 Fax: E-mail: [email protected]
Awards: No award selected
Abstract Categories: 7. Clinical Vignettes / 10. Functional Bowel
Disorders
Presentation Preference: Either Oral or Poster Only
ACG Research Grant: No
Keywords: gastrointestinal infection, parasitosis, dysbiosis.
Title: Chronic Gastrointestinal Infections/Parasitosis in Clinical
Practice
William P. Stuppy, MD. 1Private Practice, Los Angeles, California,
United States.
Purpose: Patients seen in consultation for non-specific
gastrointestinal complaints (foregut, midgut, and hindgut)
with 'negative' endoscopies, stool for O&P, and abdominal ultrasound
are often dismissed as 'functional' disorders. The purpose of this
report is disclose the presence of chronic gastrointestinal
infection/parasitosis in such a population over ten years of
practice.
Methods: Patients (672) referred for non-specific gastrointestinal
dysfunction were tested for the presence of infection/parasitosis. A
combination of saliva (IgA and IgG), stool (microscopic and antigen
detection by florescence microscopy) by Diagnos-Techs, Inc. are the
subjects of this report.
Results:
NUMBER OF PATIENTS= 672
Cryptosporidium parvum 243
Amoeba histolytica 213
Helicobacter pylori 212
Giardia lambium 163
C. difficile 114
Blastocystis hominis 41
Ascaris lumbricoides 64
Tinea solium 32
Trichinella spiralis 23
NUMBER OF INFECTIONS/PARASITES= 2210
Conclusion: Patients with chronic gastrointestinal complaints
without demonstrable pathology by endoscopic or radiographic
examination are likely to have infections/parasitosis. A third of
these have more than one pathogen. A third of patients are
spouses, 'significant others', children. This indicates person to
person transmission is the primary path for these disorders and
these conditions are grossly underestimated.

ACG 2006: The American College of Gastroenterology Annual Scientific
Meeting
Abstract Number: 1360
Contact Person: William P. Stuppy, MD
Department/Institution: Private Practice
Address: 637 Lucas Ave., #212
City/State/Zip/Country: Los Angeles, CA, 90017, United States
Phone: 323 464-4242 Fax: E-mail: [email protected]
Awards: No award selected
Abstract Categories: 7. Clinical Vignettes / 8. Outcomes Research
Presentation Preference: Either Oral or Poster Only
ACG Research Grant: No
Keywords: gastrointestinal infection, parasitosis, Nitazoxanide.
Title: Nitazoxanide And Treatment of Gastrointestinal
Infections/Parasitosis.
William P. Stuppy, MD. 1Private Practice, Los Angeles, CA, United
States.
Purpose: Hundreds of patients (672) with thousands (2210) of
gastrointestinal infections/parasites have been treated over the
past ten years. A third of these have more than one parasite making
treatment a challenge. Two hundred and fifty four (254) were treated
with one drug, Nitazoxanide 1 GM., PO, BID. The purpose of this
report is to suggest that 'one drug' therapy will eradicate chronic
gastrointestinal infection (bacteria, amoeba, helminth) in most
patients.
Methods: Of 672 patients 2210 were found to have gastrointestinal
infection/parasitosis. A third had more than one parasite. Those
with more than one (254) were prescribed one drug, Nitazoxanide (1
gram, PO, BID, for two weeks).
Results:
Patients Treated With Nitazoxanide (254)
ORGANISM/PATHOGEN CASES ERADICATION SUCCESS
Cryptosporidium parvum 243 240 99%
Amoeba histolyticum 112 112 100%
Giadria lambia 120 118 98%
Blastocystis hominis 23 22 96%
Ascaris lumbricides 30 27 90%
C. difficile 27 27 100%
T. solium 22 22 100%
T. spiralis 11 11 100%
Conclusion: Nitazoxanide is highly effective in treating/eradicating
gastrointestinal pathogens; this includes parasites, helminths,
protozoa, and pathologic bacteria.


ACG 2006: The American College of Gastroenterology Annual Scientific
Meeting
Abstract Number: 1361
Contact Person: William P. Stuppy, MD
Department/Institution: Private Practice
Address: 637 Lucas Ave., #212
City/State/Zip/Country: Los Angeles, CA, 90017, United States
Phone: 323 464-4242 Fax: E-mail: [email protected]
Awards: No award selected
Abstract Categories: 7. Clinical Vignettes / 6. Colon
Presentation Preference: Either Oral or Poster Only
ACG Research Grant: No
Keywords: Clostridium difficile, Saccharomyces boulardii, colostrum.
Title: Probiotics and Colostrum in the Treament of C. difficile
Colitis
William P. Stuppy, MD. 1Private Practice, Los Angeles, CA.
Purpose: Clostridium difficile colitis (Toxins A&B) is a major
pathogen in both in- and out-patient settings. Allopathic therapy is
equally dangerous. The purpose of this study is to share the
experience of treatment of C. difficile with probiotics and
colostrum.
Methods: One hundred and fourteen patients with C. difficile were
seen. Eighty seven were treated with a 'probiotic', Saccharomyces
boulardii (250 mgm) and colostrum (960 mgm), PO, BID for two weeks.
Results: Eighty five of eighty seven patients were found free of C.
difficile toxins A&B after two weeks of the probiotic S. boulardii
and colostrum.
Conclusion: Treatment of C. difficile toxins should begin with
probiotics and colostrum, not antibiotics. Most cases of C.
difficile are caused by antibiotics. Fight fire with fire.

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Seekhelp,

I took Humaworm and got some positive subtle results - I noticed a change in my body and energy level. And this was enough for me! I'll do it again soon.

Did you feel nothing over this period of time? Despite what Gigi and others might say, Humaworm is a very good product. A very natural product indeed. Research the long list of potent ingredients - there's a lot of powerful herbs in there.

BTW, I find it amazing that you shat $35. Please stop by to visit my restroom anytime (but do not flush). I live in the Boston area, should you want to visit.

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2006 Positive after 2 years of hell
2006-08 Marshall Protocol. Killed many bug species
2009 - Beating candida, doing better
Lahey Clinic in Mass: what a racquet!

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Coldfeet,

That was very funny. [lol] We all need to laugh every now and then. Good for the immune system. Thanks for the chuckle.

Seek,


I collapsed in 1983. When I added up the clinic I stayed in for a month, the supplements, acupuncture, massage therapists, had to have nurse take care of me for quite a while.(out of pocket)


Running to NDs, out of pocket Integrative MDs for IV vitamins,LLMDS out of pocket, and on and on.

Don't forget this was over a twenty year period This disease is a thief in the night. Took my youth, my adulthood,alienated my family and friends etc.


Thank God I have S.S. I am grateful. I know that is a lot of peoples saga and I am sad for all of us.

Seek, you are young and can get your life back. You know the enemy. It took a lot of us years to identify.


And to that I will add, just send me the $30 bucks when you fish it out of the toilet. I'm broke [lol]

Gael

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PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

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