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MY3BOYS
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i am wondering if any studies out here for how contragious/ transmittable this is??

i understand the infection crosses placenta (have to get kids tested they most likely infected we are told)

and sexual transmission --ok.. gotta test hubby

but what about other family members??

we are a very close family, seriously kinda ridiculous really. drink, eat, etc..nobody thinks twice


had both grandmas in delivery room for all the kids..no biggie in our big ole family

so..my mother in law has had health issues for years..has symptoms

brother inlaw (her son) and wife having issue and some symptoms (night sweats, gi,etc)

and hubby aunt has lyme but has not gotten dx. had tick bite at family deer lease 12 +yrs ago with rash and prob. ever since. was dx with fibromyalgia and i have told her this is lyme and get tested, tx

so, we know there are ticks at family lease..not sure what to make of who should get worked up??

thankfully, no more lease -- was sold. but what have yall experienced with your own familys?

have you found this in gererations? close family?

thanks for input..seems the science on this is lacking...same for the testing..the science sucks.

i do not know how or when i got infected, has been at least 12 yrs. and was tx for "auto immune" and immunosuppresents for last 8-9 yrs as we did not know lyme was the prob..wonder if my immunosuppression would have made me more likely to spread this to anyone?? if my body was not fighting (no Igg response, just Igm and weird complement results, seems my immune system is shot) would i have been more likely to spread this ??

thanks for any insight

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As I understand it, the spirochete can be found in all body fluids, including saliva and semen. I also recall a mouse-study where infected mice were paired up with uninfected female mice and transmission was confirmed. I wish I could find it again.

There is plenty of controversy concerning this issue, with the CDC saying there's no confirmed cases. They're right in that none have been confirmed, but there appears to be substantial anecdotal evidence it can be.

Doing a human study on this to confirm transmission would be really hard and unethical. You'd literally have to take volunteers, sequester them for several months to confirm they are Lyme-free, have them have unprotected sex or kissing (but not both), continue to sequester them for several months and then check for antibodies/transmission. And then tell them by the way, you're now infected as well, sucka, and we don't know how to cure you, but here take this short ISDA-approved course of abx that probably won't do the trick.

Good luck finding volunteers for that study. [shake]

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quote:
Originally posted by billclo:
And then tell them by the way, you're now infected as well, sucka, and we don't know how to cure you, but here take this short ISDA-approved course of abx that probably won't do the trick.

Good luck finding volunteers for that study. [shake]

OMG... I am one sick cookie laughing as hard as I did...

Thanks!!!

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thanks for the replys. lol..guess you would not find willing participants for such a study..

am suprised they have not done demographic type studies to see if there is a familiar link to higher rates of infection to help us know is may be passed through drinking/eating etc.

trying to see if anyone on here has seen this occur in their own familys; transmission not from childbirth or sex...just trying to learn more on this as i go and see who should get tested.

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dx in 08:lyme, rmsf, bart, babs, and m.pneumonia.

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Last week the Red Cross called me and asked for a blood donation. I told them I didn't think I could donate because I had lyme disease. She said, "let me look that up". She came back about a minute later and said "Nope, lyme is not on our list, you can donate!"

Dear Lord, I sure hope she just missed lyme on her list and that this isn't true!

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quote:
Originally posted by bebfire:
Last week the Red Cross called me and asked for a blood donation. I told them I didn't think I could donate because I had lyme disease. She said, "let me look that up". She came back about a minute later and said "Nope, lyme is not on our list, you can donate!"

Dear Lord, I sure hope she just missed lyme on her list and that this isn't true!

This is the exact reason I wanted nothing to do with receiving a blood transfusion 2 weeks ago.

Unfortunately, it was the last option that could potentially save my life and I had to do it...

TERRIFYING!!!

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DO NOT GIVE BLOOD, ORGANS, SKIN TISSUE, EYES, ETC!!

nothing; you don't want others to go thru the hell we have!


in PJ Langhoff's IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD, a person told of getting LYME in hospital by BLOOD DONATION and how it changed her life!

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quote:
Originally posted by bettyg:
DO NOT GIVE BLOOD, ORGANS, SKIN TISSUE, EYES, ETC!!

If I knew I was going to die if I didn't get a heart transplant ASAP, and the doctor told me there is one available but the donor had Lyme disease, I'd take it in an instant.

Anything I could do to see my family even for just a little while longer would be well worth the risk.

EDIT: I'm not disagreeing completely. I think if told up front it should be up to the receiving patient.

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