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D Bergy
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My wife is using Spiro as a Lyme treatment. It is causing a minor herx that has been constant since she started it a week ago.

My question is how well has this product worked for others?

I realized that this may be a good treatment for those who have a stomach that is ruined from too much abuse from antibiotics or other oral treatments.

Ten drops under the tongue would be a method tolerable for just about anyone. Possibly a long term treatment method without some of the more common side effects of other long term treatments.

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So no one here has any experience with this product?

If not, I will provide a report on how well or poorly it works. So far it is producing a moderate herx everyday.

The Homeopathic Doctor also put Lyme frequencies into the product. Not sure if that amounts to a hill of beans, but the ingredients of the product itself certainly seems to be working so far.

If it keeps working for a longer period of time, I will be impressed.

http://www.rain-tree.com/brochures/Spiro-extract.pdf

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I never used it, but asked about it in another post. Keebler made some comments so obviously someone has experience. I think it's just the holidays so people are responding less.
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I have purchased stuff from them before and tried it on my wife about a year ago.

At that time she was just starting treatment and her bacterial load was too high and so she herxed way too much on Raintree's Myco Liquid extract.

So I'm a believer in Raintree's products. Steve Buhner attests to the purity/potency of their stuff.

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I'm using Spiro, and have been for about a month now. I haven't really noticed much. How is your wife herxing? Feel free to PM me if you like.
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I have been using Spiro for a couple of months and I like it alot, enough to keep using it. I use it with ceftin, plaquenil and babs treatment, and noticed herxing when I first started using it.
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Her symptoms since starting Spiro is what she describes as body pain. Much of the pain in her back. Her spine seems to have a lot of bacteria.

The same type of herx as the Rife Machine produces but more constant and not as severe.

I am expecting that the Lyme will revert to cyst form at some point, but I am surprised it has not already done that. I will wait a few weeks before I get too excited about it.

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d bergy:

Another thing to note is to do protocol rotation since you mention only the one product Spiro.

The following is probably a decent herbal protocol:
(loosely based on my wife's protocol):

week 1,2,3:
Spiro

week 4:
off

week 5,6,7:
Artemisia Annua (herb pharm tincture)
Lauricidin
oil of oregano

week 8:
off

week 9,10,11:
Andrographis
Cat's Claw
Teasel
Smilax
Goldenseal

week 12:
off

week 13,14,15:
GSE

week 16:
off

week 17:
repeat the whole cycle

And you can do you regular rifing sessions as you wish throughout.

The one week breaks in between allow the liver to get rested and detoxed as well as allow the cysts to come back to spirochete form ready for another round of killing.

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I agree that a rotation has its advantages, but for now I am going to follow the instructions of the homeopath. He said to use the Rife machine as we have been and stay on the Spiro.

I have the same worry that it is simply going to go dormant and wait us out. The good thing is she should be able to take this indefinitely, as it is mostly absorbed under the tongue.

The homeopath claims a 90% cure rate so I am hoping that is a realistic figure. I am going to press him for details on our next appointment.

Another problem is she is not able to tolerate many oral treatments as her stomach is so sensitive. If she could, I would have had her stay on MMS for a longer time.

I think your rotation is a good idea. We tried this a couple of years ago, but many of the products you mentioned were not known to us then.

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I used it and it didn't do much.

Sheryl

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