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DebAz
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In case people did not see this in the other thread...

I thought I would be good to put this out in the open for those who have not see it yet.

DEBBIE


Dr. BURRASCANO Advanced Topics In Lyme Disease October 2008 16th Edition

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Thank you, I saw a mention of this somewhere else, but couldn't find it anywhere!
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Is this brand new, or has this been available for a while?
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Thanks for posting this. Dr. B states in the beginning that every section has been updated..?
Am I missing something, or are these basically identical to the other, 15th edition guidelines?

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JKMM - they look pretty much the same to me.

I did take a pretty good look.

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I looked the new one over, with my copy of the old one also open to compare. I did find some subtle differences in them, but they are not major.

For instance he has added Transfer Factor as an additional supplement, not in the required list. I know the LLMD's in my area are now using it.

That was the main thing that popped out at me, but I didn't do a line-by-line analysis.

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if you notice any other changes, would you let the rest of us know what they are SPECICIALLY.

i went to ilads site; it doesn't have 08 burrascano's guidelines there at all! wonder why??

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Hi Guys

Ok I did a side by side comparison. I did not read word for word and just compared the document about paragraph by paragraph and may have missed things.>So this may not be exact.. But
here is my list of differences.


Differences in newest Guidelines compared to 2005 Guidelines

Page 25 26 and 27
Added section
"Sorting out the co infections"

Page 28
New info given to get supplements from additional places

In all areas of Supplements
there has been various changes and additions to each description
and i advice people to re read the full supplement section as well the
following additions to the whole supplement section:

Basic Daily Regimin
NT Factor Added

Alternative Treatments
CITICHOLINE Added

Immune Support
Transfor factor Added

For Fatigue
Took out "For Fatiuge" section

Other Optional
Vitamin D Added

Page 31
"Lyme Disease Rehabilitaion"
is rewitten and added to

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JKMMC09
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Thanks Deb,

Its hard to believe in 3 years (last guidelines were in 2005!) those are the only "updates"...hmm..

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And he barely mentions Tindazole as being probably more effective than Flagyl, with fewer side effects.
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He mentions Flexcreme (Flex Cream) by Pharmanex as great for body pain. I was considering it for my daughter but you can only buy it from a consultant.

That really sucks. Anyone try it? Buy it without MLM?

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Does Dr B have some financial connection with Pharmanex ?

Deb you are consistently amazing.
Thanks for all your effort.

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Thanks to Dr. B for still helping us, even though he retired a couple of years ago.

He is so MUCH appreciated.

These guidelines have saved lives over the years... and given many non-LLMD's a base to build on so they could help folks too.

I know they kept ME alive when there were NO doctors around here.

[Big Grin]

Thanks Deb for sharing.

OH.. and if folks want MORE info... and MORE studies to be used as a basis for the next set of guidelines...

Be SURE to work to get our Congressional bill passed so some of the funding for research will come OUR way rather than going directly into the ducks pockets.

The billions wasted by the IDiots in research and on vaccines, etc that could have HELPED us with our disease is horrible.

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big thanks deb for comparing 05 and 08, and your summary!! [group hug] [kiss]


hard to believe you're a new member with about 500 posts already in 2 months!! [Smile]

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up; buried on page 2...

i was sent dr. b's 08 guidelines thru my home email and i added deb's COMPARISON 05 TO 08 NOTES with it too help them as well!


suggestion to forward them both and dr. b's supplemental list

Dr. B's Supplement List
http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

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There are also some difference in the section where he discusses different antibiotics. Telithromycin and a couple others are mentioned.
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And that is different.. Boy you would think i would catch that one since that is the med i am on..
What page is that difference on.. can you let me know

THANKS
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to all who copied my newbie package links into their word ms program,


please delete 05 link and add deb's new 08 info, her comparisons, and supplements info!! thanks.

i updated my newbie package link now; finally the lymenet system would accept this edit, and it now shows 08 on the table of contents and actual links, etc! [Wink]

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up for richie and others who didn't know this like we all didn't!!
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Rather than no coffee, he now says no caffein.

Not sure why he is still so strong against starches. That is a myth that starches will progress a candida infection or cause one. I know people who cured a candida infection with a vegan diet based on starchy foods such as potatoes, brown rice, etc. The science is there to support it and my LLMD agrees with me.

My doctor's main requirement with food is to eat well and avoid junk such as anything refined, overly processed, sugar, etc. I stick to whole foods, grains, potatoes, veggies, fruits and some organic chicken and some organinc eggs along with plenty of nuts, seeds and other odds and ends. I think I do fine and have avoided a yeast infection just fine. [Smile]

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Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
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Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
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since debaz started this, she did a COMPARISON OF 05 VS. 08 GUIDELINES ...

she listed them above; someone was looking for this post lately.

up so whoever might be able to see it and compare.

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how come they won't come up for me?

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What changes were made to the rehabilitation?
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The link appears to be broken, even directly off the webpage. Anyone know how to get it?
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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html
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There is a link and it also includes


ILADS Lyme Disease Treatment Guidelines Summary
by ILADS


Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses
by Joseph J. Burrascano Jr, MD


Guidelines for the management of Lyme disease
by ILADS



More Lyme Treatment Guideline Links
from National Guideline Clearinghouse

* Summary of ILADS Guidelines for Lyme Disease
* Summary of IDSA Guidelines for Lyme Disease
* Lyme Disease Guideline Comparison

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Hi, DebAz, I tried to click onto your link for the guidelines by Dr. Burrascano and it does not work for me.

It says it is "not found". Am I doing something wrong?

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Here is a good link to the Guidelines


http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html

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debaz hasn't been here since her last post...the fighting got to her also.

[ 11-09-2009, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: bettyg ]

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Thanks Betty for breaking things up. So, do able now to read!!
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The 2008 guidelines are right here on lymenet guys. Under the links page to the left!!

http://www.lymenet.org/links.shtml

[ 11-10-2009, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: MarsyNY ]

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marsy, i deleted your comment since i broke it up.
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