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GiGi
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16508226

This is what an unrecognized Wheat/grain allergy can do. Please note that most regular blood allergy tests and kinesiological testing will not always reveal this. Ours was just recently found through www.allergie-immun.com (English) and is now being treated with their therapy.

If you are interested, e-mail them for the exhibit showing their results. They do not diagnose specific diseases. They only test for dysregulations, auto immune reactions, etc.

Take care.

[ 06. January 2009, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]

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Thanks for the information GiGi. This is an exciting connection that you have made and I am looking forward to hearing more about the drops. I will be doing them as well as they have been reported to go well with the photons as you have shared previously.

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GIGI- would you mind PM ing me i have a few questions about the gluten allergy thing. Thanks a million

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GiGi or Scott - have either of you heard of or had any computerized screening for allergies / sensitivities ?

The accuracy is pretty good IME and there is a treatment called NAET that can often reduce or eliminate the problem.

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Shelly, I do not use the PM system. If you e-mail me [email protected], I will respond.

Sorry.

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Massman,

We have been tested and retested with all sorts of energetic testing.

Ten years ago, I have had weeks of NAET from DNamp herself. NAET does not seem to last, if the allergy is inherited or at a low level of the energetic testing. The only way we figured out that my husband is allergic to gliadin/wheat(all grains) and some 30 others is with this Allergie- Immun test and fortunately they have a treatment therapy which seems to work. In other words, they actually eliminate, for instance, a gluten allergy and a dairy allergy, which is unheard of for me. I was always told that these are permanent problems people have to live with. According to their results (e-mail them to send them to you), they do wipe out these type of allergies.

I am in contact with a Bionic practitioner in Germany who uses these tests with most of her patients, because it clears the road of many obstacles when she then treats the rest of the problems with Bionic.

I have not had any, or run into any energetic testing, such as you mention, which has revealed the allergies that we have now found. As you can tell from my other post, un undiscovered untreated gliadin/gluten allergy can be devastating. looking like Parkinsonism. A gluten allergy (as can some others) can have miserable effects on brain function.

Many allergies that have been revealed through AI are very silent and do not necessarily involve skin rashes or hayfever as we expect. We never had a clue that my husband would be allergic to mercury and lead and some other heavy metals. All the detoxing and chelating in the world cannot overcome the body's malfunction (mis-information at the energetic level) if we are talking metal toxicity.

My husband never had even the slightest symptom of Leaky Gut or digestion problems. It starts with the Leaky Gut which then lets the toxins through and enter the already challenged blood brain barrier damaged by heavy metals and infections causing neurological problems of various kind.

Be sure you check yourself carefully on this aspect. Blood tests will not show the problems.
You can treat infections until the cows come home, but it is difficult to be successful when the autonomic regulations do no longer work.

Take care.

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Hi GiGi,

I went to the website in English but the prices for the testing were in German.How much are they and how do I order or contact them.

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Hi GiGi,

I went to the website in English but the prices for the testing were in German.How much are they and how do I order or contact them.

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http://www.allergie-immun.de/english.html

Kissis, the phone number is on the right side of this page. From the US, you will need to dial the country code 01149.

Of course, the Europeans deal in Euros. So you will need to check the with a currency converter
on the internet to get the Dollar equivalent for the cost of the test.

Be sure when you call to take into consideration that they are on German time, which runs six hours ahead of East Coast, and nine hours ahead from Pacific Coast.

Good luck.

Take care.


I told them a number of times if they took a credit card it would help and if they put more of their information in Englisch. The site is loaded with explanations and information, but it is too difficult for me to translate all. I am just happy they have a test like this and a solution.

When you get the summary of results for some 200 people and can't understand it, let me know. But that info is easy to understand via dictionary.
I would suggest you ask them to send it to you.

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GiGi, i am curious, do you know why your husband's gluten allergy wasn't found via ART?

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Thanks for the detailed reply GiGi.

I will further explore this information.

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In the late 1990's I went to a herb doc to see if they could help me with the years of tummy gas. Every 10 minutes I would pass awful smelling gas. I could have powered an energy source.
The doc put me on an elimination diet and there was no doubt that it was dairy and wheat that caused the problem so I havnt eaten either in all those years cuz living without the gas is so much nicer.

Several years later my general practioner doc tested me for gluten but the test was negative so I think that testing with physical results is better than pieces of paper.

My tsh levels for my thyroid were always very low and no where near being questionable but I was wearing a coat in the summer and could not wear any pants that touched my waist cuz it was like sandpaper rubbing my skin. My blood pressure was way up cuz I was so tense from the freezing low temp of my body all the time.

I finally found an endo doc who looked at me and my symptoms instead of the tsh numbers which are for the general public not me. I have been on thyroid meds now for over 4 years and am so grateful to have found this doc. He is older so am a little woried about when he retires but I will deal with that when I have to

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up for GiGi.

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Heiwalove, I was looking for your post, but couldn't remember the thread.

The www.allergie-immun.de testing is done at the DNA level, only involving energetic information, no biochemicals.
Some that were found had never been discovered as being a problem, probably because he never had any indication of maldigestion or gut problems. Gliadin/Gluten from any grain can be the harbinger of severe neuro problems. It is not limited to wheat. It is eliminated very simply by de- and reprogramming of the ANS through drops. It is a most amazing short and effective therapy. They have 100% success. for gluten and dairy. We are doing the therapy right now.

I was found to have a mal-mis-dysfunctional thyroid which is also addressed the same way. It also had never shown up with ART, except being stressed once in a while and then treated with NT. I never had a problem to control my weight or other hormone levels until after Lyme, and the thyroid took the brunt. It is being treated along with all other allergies they found as well as all inherited conflicts which most of us have. You hear of genetic misfortunes - those are the ones they address. I am allergic to lead and a couple of others and any of these may still hang around and block hormone producing glands.

All allergies/dysfunctions are addressed and cleared with the drops at the same time; repeated with another test at certain intervals until none found any longer or symptoms gone.

It is an amazing test and an even more amazing therapy that I just found out about through one of the Bionic practitioners I am consulting for my husband's treatments. I am now treating with the Bionic any damage done to nerves/blood vessels/lymphatics/brainstem, etc. with the Bionic and am forever amazed how simple it is. It takes time and patience and a curious mind to find any possible damage/pathogens/problems that are still hanging around. I had no idea there were so many different infections that were either there or for which Lyme opened the door. I am treating all - whatever I find with the tensor. A. sometimes verifies.

Sofy, you may want to research this test for your thyroid problems. Usually there is no med after this is corrected energetically.

It is difficult to explain in a few short sentences.

Take care.

[ 09. January 2009, 04:26 AM: Message edited by: GiGi ]

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thanks for the explanation GiGi. i appreciate it. [Smile]

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Im confused as usual. You get the test at the German Company and then how do you treat it? Someone mentioned drops. Where do you get the drops? Do the drops cure the problem or do you have to take them for the rest of your life.
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On the website, you can either order the whole treatment or just the blood/saliva test kit.

They didn't ask for payment when I ordered it today so I'm assuming they will send an e-mail (just as the German company did with the Biotensor) telling me how much to wire to them.

They will send me the blood/saliva test kit which I will mail back to them for analyzing. They will then have my DNA information and mail the treatment to me.

If the drops don't work the first time, they will send them again at no charge. At least that is how I understand it. GiGi can explain it better than I can.

I can't wait to get started. My ND says I am allergic to just about everything. She doesn't think what I call die-off to everything I take is really that at all. She believes I'm having an immune reaction.

I will let you know when I begin to see improvement. I've been ill a long time with leaky gut so I don't expect miracles overnight but I'm sure ready for some relief from being allergic to everything.

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Thanks for the explanation GIGI. Please let us know how well this works.

It's hard to know if something is going to work or not and having tried so many things, I'm reluctant until I hear of others experience.

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Sofylyme,

I know it's scary to think of losing a doctor who actually prescribes something for you that works. With hypothyroidism, usually the hard part is getting on the medication. Once you get on one and it works, the doctors usually let you stay on them. No need to go into long explanations with the new doctor about not testing hypothyroid. So even if they test you, unless the meds are pushing you into hyperthyroid range you should probably be okay.

Also, if you live in a state where they let naturopaths prescribe, you can probably get your thyroid meds through them.

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Sofy, the AI test is 75 Euro right now, 95 Euro after January (old price). For this you get the first test. No drops. If you decide to want the drops, you take them usually 3x5/day for two weeks; then wait two weeks. If symptoms persist, you send them another sample (2 drops blood or saliva) and the test is repeated It is repeated again and again, two weeks different drops, two weeks nothing, then sending your second sample, etc.

This goes on until either your symptoms are gone or they cannot find any more dysregulations. Whether you need l test with l bottle of drops, or 5 test repeats and bottles with each, the price is 395. Euro. I think they ask for reimbursement of the postage for the ones after Test #1.

My only regret is that the site is not in English. It is loaded with good information and explanations, plus they have a forum. I just started a course by e-mail (free) on the whole process to learn to understand it better. I get an e-mail with small droplets of info every day.

I must say they do a wonderful job, and I keep harping to them to bring it in English. They say they cannot find anyone to do these type of translations. I admit that it's hard for me to translate because it is full of all but school medicine language.

I understand once the treatment is done, it holds. The body then runs on the information that it had lost and when you are done with the drops, that is it. They have treated thousands since 1999. I am real anxious for the thyroid results too.

I started the drops 5 days ago and today I can hardly keep my eyes open and am extremely tired -- miles away from my normal. I haven't felt that in years - so something is happening.

The drops do not contain biochemicals or homeopathics. At the DNA level where this testing takes place, our body
communicates with light and electricity (Prof. F.A. Popp) and the drops bring in the missing information; we either lost it or never had it. More and more children are born with "allergies" = missing or wrong info.

Ask by e-mail to have them send you their study on 200 people. It gives you an idea. It's definitely not the usual concept of allergies - a rash and hayfever- .
And if you ask your regular doc - most likely he/she will not have a clue if you ask about an energetically blocked gland. I am very familiar with this because of Dr. K. If that happens to be the case as it showed in my test, important hormones and enzymes are not produced in needed amounts, either too much or too little, and that can have dire effects on certain organs --- . It will probably take a few more cold winters before orthodox medicine will go along with this.

I have decided not to wait that long - will keep you posted.

Take care.

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Thank you for your replies. My biggest ? is if it is worth spending my last $ to test for an allergy for something I have not touched or eaten for years.
If I have the allergy but dont expose myself to it is it still causing a problem with my thyroid. When my thyroid issue started I hadnt had dairy or wheat for a couple years but I did have undiagnosed lyme disease.
Ct. doesnt allow naturopaths to give scrips and my experience with most naturopaths had not been good except for one and she passed on shortly after my visit and I wasnt surprised because she sent me uncomfortable feelings that really confused and scared me.

I went to several more when I started falling down the lyme vaccine hill and they all just wanted to sell me products and told me that I just needed vitamins and that I was sick because of my brain & mood. Then a general practioner actually thought to give me a lyme test and I was positive with a Crest test which is not common.

I got the herbal cure book from our local library and am going to try and read it and maybe try that method. Reading a book is not an easy project for me but I have 30 days and hope I will be able to remember some of what it says.

For the past couple years I have been just trying to live each day to its fullest. I live alone but am still able to drive to the supermarket once a week and recently my daughter came and hooked up her old computer so I now have computer access again but I limit my time looking at health issues and spend most of my doing something that is fun for the moment.

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Sofy, I cannot comment because it is not up to me to make the decision what you should do. I only post information for people to read or pass over. But since you referred to thryoid meds, I commented on it.

It is hard to make a decision if the information is in a foreign language, I will admit. People have to stay within their own comfort zone.

All the best to you.

Take care.

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I was checking out the allergie-immun.de website, I used the free firefox translator and the translation was suprisingly quite good. You can get the translation for every page of the website.It really has a lot of information worth reading.
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Ericaf, can you copy one interesting page that you were able to get translated. Would like to see what they come up with. I am trying to apply Firefox, but haven't been able to do it yet. Maybe you can help?

Thank you and take care.

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The Firefox tranlator by default uses google. So you can get the same translations from translate.google.com putting in the URL of the page you would like to translate.

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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&langpair=de|en&u=http://www.allergie-immun.de/

yeah because of the german sentence structure the verb is often at the end of the sentence but you can understand the general meaning of what they are saying.

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yeah when downloading firefox you have to check off the translator option and you automatically get it on your toolbar or on the right side of your screen. Then you click on it and you can chose the language you want. In this case from german to english but there are other options too.
I think you can access the other translated pages from the link I posted above.

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thank you Ericaf and Scott - it works great
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We used US BIOTEK Laboratories recommended by our LLMD.

Simple blood test done, and they sent us a Personalized Food Statistics and Elimination Rotation Diet Guideline.


I was surprised by some of the "Reactive Foods" that showed up and it was easy to make the transition away from the harmful foods that were contributing to the wheat/gluten/oats/barley intolerance .

If you want to keep it simple try the US BIOTEK Labs. Maybe your LLMD will know of them, or another company closer to home.

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Topper, The Allergie Immun is not the usual blood test looking for reactive foods or allergens as you described it.

None of the irregularities that I have or my husband has have ever been found with a blood test. The blood test is testing the biochemical reactions. The Allergie Immun addresses the energetic dysregulations. Energetic dysregulation happens first, illness follows.

It is a test and therapy to find the CAUSE and to REMOVE THE CAUSE for the reactions, on a permanent basis. There is no food rotation and special diet necessary.

It also addresses the genetic dysregulations (inherited) many of us have and the ones we acquired during our present life through stress and illness. It teaches the body to expel certain heavy metals instead of holding on to some of them; it teaches the body to accept healthy foods. It teaches the body not to hold on to mold and fungi.

It teaches the body to clear the emotions that make us ill.

In order to understand it, you might want to read the English text on the website I linked.

Take care.

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Gigi your last post really answered a lot of the unknowns about this process. I havnt been able to read the translation yet but hopefully I will have a good enough period today to take in the new info to my brain.
The idea that this could fix a potential metal & or yeast problem really broadens the possible help because its impossible to know for sure that you dont have any of these problems.
I now know I will keep looking at this as a possible help.

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Has anyone gotten the results for the 200 people. I didn't see it on their website, maybe I am missing something.

I emailed them and never heard back from them.

thanks

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Maureen, I have ordered and received the Study several times (no charge).

Go to http://www.allergie-immun.com/verbraucherstudie.html

and enter your first name, last name, and e-mail address.


Hope it works. It is a most interesting study.
If you can't make the titles out of the columns when you get it, please ask me, or a dictionery will help. Or Google translator. Basically it is self-explanatory. But do ask if it is not clear to you.


Take care.

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Thanks Gigi,

I just did it, so hopefully I'll get the study soon.

Do you think it would be effective for my 3 1/2 year old's peanut allergy?

thanks

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Maureen,

I will be getting my drops soon, I hope. So I'll be right behind you.

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Sandy,

I didn't actually order the test yet. Wanted to read the study first. Did you order the test and treatment at the same time? Does it matter with cost?

Do they send you something for the test and you send it back to them with your saliva?

Thanks Gigi- I got the study.

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Maureen,

I'll send you a pm.

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Has anyone on this site experienced progress yet?
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I complained so much about the difficult to translate German. So they told me today that they added a few more translated pages here

http://allergie-immun.de/Englisch/allergietherapy.html

Hiawatha, the progress is not that quick. Most people have lived with these allergies for many many years. It may take a month, several months, and if the condition is older (older then ten years), it may take up to a year.

I was told today that a female dentist eliminated epileptic seizures with the third bottle of drops. So that would mean about three months.
An MS person got well. A person with "raw skin" from neurodermitis totally well.

I would also suspect that leaky gut caused, for instance, by a wheat allergy, will take time to heal before it can turn in positive neurological results and stop the toxins from leaking through ending in the central nervous system/brain. So I can be patient. Just the thought that this is possible is amazing. I was told that patience is necessary for longstanding cases and it is very important that the drops are continued as periodically instructed.

I find the people running the place most helpful and accommodating. One of my sons just turned in his saliva samples. He inheritted the wheat allergy from my husband and reacted to wheat at a very young age falling asleep when he should have been studying and getting congested and stuffy from chest to top of head now any time he eats a grain of wheat. Luckily no neuro symptoms at this point. The problem with longstanding allergies is that they start to stress the body more and more over time. Not a good thing overall. I was also told today that many children are born with allergies. What a sad thing! But it can be alleviated.

Take care.

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Gigi or anyone,

I'm interested in this treatment but I have a few questions. I'm wondering what is actually in the drops. Also, what type of instrument is used to run the tests (of blood or saliva)?

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Why not just avoid gluten like most people do? Pretty simple.

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Lymetoo, if you take the time to read the website, you will notice that a wheat allergy is just a fraction of things gone wrong. Avoiding wheat is impossible to start with because it is contained in so many substances, even meat products. A molecule of wheat sets off the alarm and the chain reaction starts in other cells reacing.

If you are fine and well, I would not worry about it.

All the Lyme people I know who have taken the test are also allergic to a number of toxic heavy metals, as well as to other major foods. That means the body cannot release them, but just stores them until they become more than a
burden. This eventually sets off the organs - most have energetically blocked organs (thyroid, pancreas, pineal gland, etc.) All brought about by the allergic reactions.

Do read the English portion of the website if you want to understand it.

Take care.

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Gigi,

Do you think the allergie-immun.de tests and drops should be done after doing Bionic treatment, or do you think it doesn't matter?

Thanks for all of your info on this...

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Do you think the allergie-immun.de tests and drops should be done after doing Bionic treatment, or do you think it doesn't matter?


Andrew, if I had known about the Allergie Immun test and its wide reaching findings, I would have done this test and therapy before continuing with other treatments. It's like moving a mountain out of the way singlehandedly. I do think it matters a whole lot. My opinion from all I am learning about all of this right now.

Take care.

If you are reacting to wheat: Wheat is in toothpaste. Wheat is in sunflower oil. I am talking on the energetic level and that is all that is necessary to set off reactions if one has a wheat allergy. Allergie Immun researched many products that we use and wheat is literally everywhere. This is also the case if you have a silent reaction to wheat/gluten/gliadin, as my husband had. He could eat all the wheat and never feel anything unpleasant. And trying to avoid wheat is then an act of futility.

I also just learned that anemia / iron deficiency is also brought about by wheat/gluten/gliadin. My husband had that problem for several years and I kept blaming it on Babesia, even though he barely suffered from it. It has been the malabsorption of foods and nutrients all along due to the wheat and gluten.

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Interesting about the anemia. All of my red blood cell counts are on the low end and everyone is always telling me "you're borderline anemic". Ha! Now I know more.

My wheat allergy was silent for most of my life - until I did a few months of antibiotics which I think helped the leaky gut along.

Now I can't even look at a slice of bread.

The body is not in a normal state if it is rejecting substances that shouldn't harm you and holding on to ones it should be getting rid of.

My report from Allergie-Immun has been fascinating (to me at least) I'll update when I get further along with the drops.

If I were to live my "lyme life" over again (no thanks) I would have had my amalgams out first, then done Allergie-immun, then Bionic treatment.

I didn't exactly do things in that order but we learn as we go. I feel fortunate to at least have done/or be doing them all.

I can directly thank GiGi for even knowing about the bionic and Allergie-Immun. Pretty simple treatments for all the things people are trying to accomplish.

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Gigi, also posted this on the "KMT" thread, but not sure if you would see it. Is it ok to use the AI drops if you have dental amalgams?

Many, many thx!

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This is very interesting! Anyone with more experiences?

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We just got our second AI test back after completing two weeks of drops (containing water and frequencies). All the food allergies have been cleared. All the heavy metal allergies have been cleared. All the fungi/mold allergies have been cleared. The DNA has been de- and reprogrammed. Now the body recognizes substances and can dispose of the bad and utilize the good.

The second test showed all the chemical toxins. We are exposed to about 80,000 of them every day.
My husband has five out of the seven major groups; which is a huge load. We will start these drops in a couple of days. I am guessing that he started to acquire some of these during WWII and spending many thousands of miles in airplanes.

We shall see - as the body is now able to start releasing toxins and is able to heal. I am told that this would probably take up to a year for people who have been ill for a long time.

I was also told that an MS patient totally confined to wheelchair and barely able to speak is now well again. All that is left is that she drags one leg a little, but she is well and walking and doing. It took about a year of the AI Therapy - I didn't ask whether she took the drops that long. I assume that they were probably stopped when they could not find any irregularities in her "software" anymore and then the healing time.

Not bad.

Take care.

Someone asked what kind of instrument they are using to test. It is called PSP. Biophoton/light (F. A. Popp) carry the messages between cells, not biochemicals. You can start googling and see what you find. Right now, I am more interested in their results and understanding what goes on in the body during that therapy. They have been using this system for over ten years, and the study they publish on about 200 people (request it) tells all. A number of the group who are doing this test should be getting their results soon also. So you will be hearing more, I am sure.

I would encourage anyone interested to use some of the translating engines (Firefox? Babylon, Google) to read some of the excellent articles on the website. You can read several days and it may open a new world as it did for me.

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Tonglen,

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Gigi, also posted this on the "KMT" thread, but not sure if you would see it. Is it ok to use the AI drops if you have dental amalgams?


Yes, it is okay to use the drops. Through the drops, the body will learn again to recognize toxins as toxins and deal with them, as it will recognize that wheat is actually a good food and milk, cheese and eggs and all the rest, including sugar, are all good foods.

These were all okay until the body reached the point at one time where it was unable to identify these substances and deal with them appropriately.

Take care.

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my son is allergy ridden, no doubt, with clinical results (IGE tests and HLA genotypes) positive over the years.

thanks for this info gigi, i've ordered the paper.

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thanks for this info gigi, i've ordered the paper.

Mo, which paper? If you want to do the test, you do not need to ask for the test. Just let me know and I will tell you how. If you want the study of some 200 people, please note that they cannot publish all! for obvious reasons.

Let me know and I would be most happy to help. I think it would be a most important step.

Please let me know, Take care.

P.S. I have the study and can mail it to you.

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GiGi, can you take the drops while continuing with herbal lyme therapy? or should all herbs/supplements be stopped while on the AI drops?

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Heather, you probably could. But the AI drops are addressing such potent problems that may change your overall approach to Lyme. The body's defenses may take on a totally different form once the body is taught to recognize toxins and invaders for what they are. That is at the base of many problems. The body simply does not react normally any longer, and the longer this stays as is, the longer it takes to get it reprogrammed. They are actually searching for the electromagnetic patterns that are causing the errors and resetting the "switches" as if to get the train back on the right track.

The body is actually encouraged to take care of things again which it has not been able to do probably for a long time.


Take care.

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thanks GiGi! one more question: do you need to avoid the substances to which you test allergic while undergoing AI treatment?

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I asked the same question while doing the drops and was told it was not required but if something was significant then you may choose to stop it.

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We stopped the wheat once we learned my husband had a silent allergy toward it; that was a week before we got the drops in the mail. We stopped it for the two weeks. But since wheat, for instance, is in literally everything else (in every toothpaste, sunflower oil, dairy = cows eat grains, the frequencies are still hitting the body. We are dealing with substances at the DNA level. Frequencies.

It is recommended to eat good healthy foods, grain, proteins, including fruits and sugar. We eat everything - and mainly the food we grew up with and the food that is grown where we live. I do not pay attention to organic this and that - we are exposed to 60,000 manmade toxins every day. Our body is learning to deal with it. So basically avoidance when doing the drops is not recommended. If some food has always given you an obvious problem, I would stop it through the first round. All of our metal and food and fungal allergies were gone after the first 14 days. Balance is important while the body starts healing and thereafter. All of life is balance. That includes your thoughts and surrounding. It is very important to get the rest to achieve balance. The body is very busy making the corrections when doing the drops.

I was extremely tired during the first round and I had a very moderate showing of problems before we started the drops. Others including my husband had a lot more. I could have slept all day and night.

Take care.

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I checked with AI yesterday and was told that they wouldn't ask an asthma sufferer to stop meds when on the drops and that if you think you cannot do without certain meds, to go ahead and take them when on the drops.

My comment here and that is basically the message I get from them: If you give the body too much differing information, it's like listening to a radio that pulls in several stations all at the same time -- you eventually don't understand anything any longer. Same with two many different information deliveries to the body.

Take care.

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I am very intrested in trying this, Gigi the story you told about the womon with M.S. being almost cured by this treatment was so exciting to read. I also have M.S./Lyme and I'm certain I have many alergys for when I go on a ilimination diet I always feel better.
But my question is, if I shell out the money for the initial testing and drops is that a one time charge or will I have simular cost every few monthes for new testing and more drops? I really dont think I can afford it if so. Thank's Terri

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Greentea, AI is testing every function of the body and that includes all allergic reactions to foods, chemicals, fungi/mold, inherited problems, structural problems - it is all part of the test and will continue until they can no longer find any irregularities any more. How long - you take several courses of the drops until your symptoms are resolved or they can no longer find any irregularities/allergies any more. Some people do it longer than others.

Kissis, I talked with them the today again because my husband looks more like MS and they told me they have had several MS patients, some in wheelchairs, all went through the program and got well. For this type of problem it takes a little longer - half a year or a year.

The charge for the therapy is the same for whatever time it takes. It always includes the first testing and all subsequent testing and all the drops that are prepared with every 2nd, 3rd, etc. testing. It is one price as stated in the website for the whole program from beginning to end. I don't think one can ask for more.

The only problem is that they cannot converse with you on the phone as they can with me because of the language. But I always get their ear, they listen, and I get their advice and encouragement. But where there is a will, there is a way. If you have an urgent question, I can help you out. Learn to use the google or other translaters to read their website. It is loaded with important information.

Take care.

P.S. I think they only thing they are asking extra for the next drops, etc. is that we pay them for the extra postage each time they send us a new bottle.

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GiGi,

How did you discover this company? Dr K recommend? I'm just curious the background of it. The idea is intriguing.

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A number of therapists who use the Bionic in their practice in Germany are using the Allergie-Immun Test/Therapy because it seems to eliminate a lot of problems many people experience. Read the website. Dr. W. is not familiar with it. Neither is Dr. K. until I brought it up. Look at the list of therapists on the AI website. That ought to tell you all. My first name is Curious and I do not have tunnel vision!

Take care.

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I would really like to try this but just dont have the mental capicity to get thru their site and the translation necessity is too much for my demented brain so I guess this is just another shot telling me a healthy live is not in my future so Im trying to make the most of each day that I have
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Sofy, why not ask someone to help you. There are a number of people here doing the therapy and I am sure somebody would help.

Good luck and take care.

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I never said you did have tunnel vision GiGi. Thanks for the information. I was just curious how this originated. My wife has a friend with a 4 yr old daughter with SEVERE allergies to most foods. I was thinking possibly this could be a life saver if it's legitimate.


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A number of therapists who use the Bionic in their practice in Germany are using the Allergie-Immun Test/Therapy because it seems to eliminate a lot of problems many people experience. Read the website. Dr. W. is not familiar with it. Neither is Dr. K. until I brought it up. Look at the list of therapists on the AI website. That ought to tell you all. My first name is Curious and I do not have tunnel vision!

Take care.


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Why amalgams out first if you have problem with allergy to the metals? Would it be best to address allergy first?

I am thinking addressing allergies, phase one and two liver panel, methylation panel and then amalgams and chelation.

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We all are gluten intolerant here and I wonder about the animals eating grains and so on.

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Seekhelp, many doctors and practitioners seem to have tunnel vision and seem to be stuck in a groove. My statement had nothing to do with what you said or didn't say.

This test involves more than merely food allergies. It takes some effort to translate some of the info on the website, if the English part is not sufficient. Even some people with MS and asthma can get relief. The list of symptoms is long. If you click on "Checkliste" on their website, you get a better idea.

Take care.

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R62, there are many problems that will take care of themselves if you can get your body to start regulating again, i.e. functioning again at a level of a healthy person. This is the aim of the AI therapy. And it seems they are doing a good job at it.

Take care.

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I am optimistic about these drops as well. I am 1/2 way through round 2. They definitely pack a punch and seem to be doing some important remodeling work. We will see over time what they can do, but at this point, I am very excited about them. Thanks to GiGi for sharing them with me.

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Thanks for every one that answered my questions," Gigi" Well I have tried so many things over the years ,some with limited sucess, so they will have there work cut out with me! but from the stories that were told I'm so excited to try this .
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That could mean the body can release and potential chelate heavy metals & toxins (with or without help of binders)better and the immune system could function better to get the bugs.. could it also mean liver dysfunction could be resolved as in phase 1 or 2 missteps without testing and addressing, or "genetic" problems with liver detox? Would it be better if testing the liver detox functions to do so after the AI tesing.. could it change that paradigm? Thank you.

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R62, there are many problems that will take care of themselves if you can get your body to start regulating again, i.e. functioning again at a level of a healthy person. This is the aim of the AI therapy. And it seems they are doing a good job at it.

Take care.


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R62, yes - to all your questions.

If your regulation is stuck, i.e. your basic energetic regulation system is dysfunctional, nothing, anything you do with biochemistry, vitamins, supplements, foods, toxic environments, toxins inside the body does not work and you will be spinning your wheels until you address this particular system.

It alone is responsible for a functional or dysfunctional immune system. If that system is working as it should, none of us would ever have to go to Lymenet to look for answers. Our body would have taken care of all accumulation of toxins, invading microorganisms and we would be able to respond to the Lyme bacteria as millions of other people do when they are exposed -- with possibly some abx or none at all, as happens with millions of people every day, the system would handle the infection, dispose of the toxin through all available avenues, skin, mucosa, other excretory organs, etc.

We had genetic tests done - so if you know that things aren't right - but what do you do about it?
None they recommend will do the job, unless the engine that drives it all starts to work again. All biochemicals it seems to me is money out the window if the body has forgotten what to do with it or, worse, causes further negative reactions/chain reactions.

Take care.

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OK. That make sense. Do you know if it is best to get amalgams out before AI or after? I have been told my all my docs that my body cannot take amalgam removal yet.. so makes sense to me AI first?? My babesia is acting up as well. I hope I can do AI and babesia herbs at same time or I have to wait for one or the other? The babesia is getting worse. I'm afraid to address it since I crashed badly on mepron/biaxin 5 month point when zith replaced biaxin and artimisinin was added. Thank you, GiGi
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R62, write to AI, as briefly as you can, and ask them. If they cannot answer in English, have them write in German and let me know. I will translate it.
Take care.

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This answers questions regarding Allergie Immun that may not be answered on the Allergie Immun Germany thread.

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A gluten free diet looks to help CONSERVE lysine.

So does lowered serum potasium.

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