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steelbone
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http://www.kidneystonenaturaltreatment.com/

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I've always heard of drinking alot of beer. Beer makes you pee alot and makes your kidney's empty out faster.
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Might be interesting to see if it would work, but I think there is a point where they can be dangerous and a visit to the ER may be necessary. Don't wait too long in the event that medical intervention is needed.

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I would love to know what the remedy actually is . Anyone have an idea?

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seems to be drinking 6 cans of coke classic in two hours on an empty stomach then blending a bunch of asperagus (sp) and drink that..then drink plenty of water.

The coke part is a killer. i see a uroligist today. I have had pain on my right side off and on for a while. Did the QXCI machine (bio-feedback machine) and it said i had kidney stone.

The pain in manageable. I would love to try and desolve this some natural way..thats for sure

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After my daughter had kidney failure years ago.
My NP had her take Hydrangea and drink lots and lots of water to break up all the stones in her kidneys.

When I had the problem she had me take gravel root extract.

This is not medical advice, just sharing my experiences.

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I wonder if Diet Coke will work. And how do you eat the asparagus? Anyone know thw particulars ?

Any other suggestions ?

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During one of Pat's machine treatments, kidney stones seemed to have been released and lodged in the urinary tract. That was on a Friday.

The pain was excruciating, urination was a scream (literally) [Eek!] On Monday, the Coke (only it was actually Pepsi) and asparagus treatment was tried. Nothing changed.

On Tuesday, we gathered some of the herb capsules according to Hulda Clark's recipe: Hydrangea Root, Uva Ursi, and Cornsilk, and they were used.

A nurse also said she dissolved her stones by taking 1 teaspoon of light olive oil in 1 ounce of grapefruit juice 30 minutes before breakfast, daily. That was also tried.

By Wednesday night, Pat started getting relief. It continued to get better daily, until it was all cleared up a couple of weeks later.

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Thx Sue

I had a Cat scan and x-ray. No stones any where. Looks like i need to focus more on detox.

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Yes, magnesium, as Carol stated, is fabulous for so many reasons.

Here's just one quote from a doctor's column about that:

www.vrp.com/deardoctorresults.aspx?ProdID=deard2595&zTYPE=3


. . . The reason is that magnesium is actually very effective in preventing kidney stones. In fact, I recommend magnesium be taken to bowel tolerance to prevent . . .


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There are many things other than beer that will push out urine. Water, itself, is pretty good.


Beer can be dangerous, especially if a an attack is connected to poor liver function - and in an emergency it can be hard to tell. The liver needs all the help it can get, also in case meds need to be administered for which alcohol would create a bad reaction.

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Sorry, too, IMO - Diet Coke is very bad for us - for many reasons. The artificial sweetener can be toxic, especially if that can ever sat in a hot warehouse. It's not a healthy thing to consider in a medical emergency or even for consumption at any time. It's primarily a chemical solution sitting in plastic and aluminum.

Same with Classic Coke - any of that stuff that sits in a plastic lined aluminum can on hot warehouse shelves is not a health drink. The sugar is from GMO, chemically-ladened high fructose corn syrup. Also very hard for glycemic reasons - someone could go into diabetic shock from this.


If the author is saying that his treatment is "natural" and he suggests cola - that is not "natural" at all.


FLAVRZ may excite those who want some new beverage options in addition to teas (although it's not great if candida is an issue - it contains some sugar, it's organic, you would use very little and it also has agave to help stabilize the glucose response:

www.flavrzdrinkmix.com

FLAVRZ -

Flavrz is a concentrated drink mix to add to water. It is organic, made from fruit and sweetened,mainly with agave nectar. It is low sugar, less than half ...


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Asparagus can be the vegetable but it also comes as an herbal product, usually as part of a formula.


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Back to the book above, I always am concerned about the safety and authenticity of a treatment that says you can only get it "here"

Quote from site: " . . .Here's Why You Haven't Heard Of My Natural Remedy Before

Because it's not available anywhere except right here on this website. . . ." end quote

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I tried to find out what is being sold, to look at ingredients or recipe but I guess that is only the book. I'd like to see the Third-Party research. That is a must. They may well be in the book - anyone who may get it, please let us know what you think about the research presented for whatever he's suggesting.


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Last year, I used Chanca Piedra for what was likely a kidney attack of some kind. (It's in my emergency kit.) Worked like a charm to relieve the unbelievable pain.


I also backed it up as soon my GP's order for Cipro was filled later that day in case of infection - but until I got that -

Stone Breaker kept me from having to be carted off to the hospital (where I would normally advise others to go but, due to my severe sensitivity and light and sound-triggered seizures, any hospital is very dangerous environment for me).


I had never used it before and was actually pretty amazed. Still, I would never try to address kidney or gall stones without talking with my GP.

I was lucky, too, in that my acupuncturist/ND was able to do a house call - she even took a urine sample to Quest for testing. She happens to live nearby and happened to have that morning free.

I will add that while Stone Breaker really helped at first, it was not enough alone. In addition to the Cipro in case of infection, the use of one vicodin was very welcome to take the pain down another few notches.

The acupuncture I got also seemed to help until the Rx was delivered. And my GP kept in touch with me for a few days.


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http://herb-pharm.com/index.php?action=viewcompounds&search=s


STONE BREAKER (Chanca Piedra) COMPOUND


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http://www.rain-tree.com/chanca.htm


Chanca Piedra


3/4 of the way down the page are dozens of published articles about it. See the section:

Third-Pary Research Published on Chanca Piedra


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www.itmonline.org

ITM (research on Chinese Medicine)

A search on "Aparagus" - 5 pages of articles. This is just one:
www.itmonline.org/ayurreview/ayurasp.htm


A search on ``Kidney Stones'' brings 4 pages of articles


A search on ``Gall Stones'' brings 2 pages of articles. One of those:

www.itmonline.org/arts/gallstones.htm


TREATMENT OF GALLSTONES WITH CHINESE HERBS AND ACUPUNCTURE


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Depending upon what is in that book (if it is beyond drinking a ton of Coke) - the links below are essential to read before using anything that has not been recommended by a licensed ND or L.Ac. who would know about herb safety.


A few ITM links regarding SAFETY and INTERACTIONS:

www.itmonline.org/safety.htm - over 35 separate articles.

www.itmonline.org/arts/herbdrug.htm - 2000

www.itmonline.org/arts/herbdrug2.htm - 2003


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