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GettinHealthy
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I posted last night a question in regards to food allergies so am sort of jumping in even though this is now 'out of order' :-) Anyway, I just want to thank you for answering my questions as I know this takes your time. I am going to order AI for myself and my children as all of you seem to have had wonderful results and are still moving in a positive direction. Thanks again and I will keep you posted!
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Dear aliyalex,

I tried to PM you, but your mailbox was full.

Please contact me by PM, and I'll send you what I wrote. Or, let us know you've picked up your mail, eh?

Love,

Cass A

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GettinHealthy, Glad you are going to try this. It was nice to talk a bit and hope to run into you somewhere before too long. Maybe you can make it to the next K. seminar in February. "Healing the Brain" should give us a lot to digest.

It sounds like you want to learn more about AI, so when you send in your samples, be sure to ask them to send you the booklet "Information for Clients". Somtimes they forget to include it in the package. If you are interested, you can also ask them to send you their

Good luck and take care.

P.S. to get a better picture of the results of the Regulationtherapie, you could ask for their study of approx. 200 clients, as below. It is quite detailed as to specific symptoms, etc., and quite interesting. They e-mail it to you. It is German, but you can easily understand the list of symptoms, male and female, and the rest is basically numbers.

96,4 % der Teilnehmer besttigten eine grundstzliche Wirkung der REGU-Immun-Therapie.
73,9 % gaben an, dass keine Symptome mehr vorhanden sind.
17,7 % gaben an, dass noch teilweise Symptome vorhanden sind.
8,4 % gaben an, dass Symptome nach wie vor vorhanden sind *.
* Verbrauchertest mit 124 weiblichen und 73 mnnlichen Personen, Selbstbewertung.

Ask them for their "Verbraucherstudie" if you are interested.

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aliyalex - this thread has been a pretty calm place since it started last year. I'm sorry that the one day things got a little "stirred up" your post got overlooked.

I am truly sorry about the passing of your Mom.

I think you asked about taking less drops. There have been rounds when I have only taken 2 or 3 but always 3x a day.

Mr. G has said this is okay when necessary and that even if "the information is whispered, it is still there."

Last year around this time my very first drops arrived frozen solid. I put them on the table beside my bed to thaw and I do believe they went to work being next to my head that night!

I was extremely tired during the first round. When I got my second report and all the switches for foods, metals, fungus, industrial toxins, etc., had been flipped in the right direction - well, that's a lot.

I forget sometimes how very hard our bodies are working while doing these drops. Any extra rest one can get, nourishing foods, giving in to that day in bed (good for you Wiser!), can be helpful.

I don't think Mr. G can or will tell us don't take this or that but if you read between the lines, I believe his intention is for us to keep things as simple as possible.

Makes sense if he is trying to correct something and we are busy taking other things to correct the same issue. Just adds confusion I think.

R62, I think the drops will help with your kids gut issues. It took many months but mine seem to have resolved.

Many of us have been guinea pigs before putting our kids on it. My 22 year old son and his girlfriend will start when they finish college in the Spring.

Lightparfait said some time ago she wanted all her kids on it - her gift to future generations to stop the chaos. I really liked that one LP.

A final note - it wasn't until I met Gigi that I fully grasped the depth of her knowledge about all of this.

There is always room for misinterpretation with the written word. When there are no facial expressions or body language to be seen, it is easy to misunderstand.

I for one owe her a big thank you for the overwhelming generosity she has shown me and for finding Allergie-Immun.

A happy and peaceful New Year to all.

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Personally, I have found this thread to be full of sharing and caring. GiGi, NanaD, LParfait and Scott have all been very forthcoming about their experiences with the drops.

Reading the posts about their healing gives me the strength to continue on with AI.

Nobody has shared more than GiGi and none of us, nor Dr. K, would have even heard of this therapy if it wasn't for her.

She has taken the time to email Herr Grundmeyer on my behalf when I was having trouble after my 6th round. I know she has done this for others, too.

Member #259/6700++ posts says it all, really. Like NanaD, I am also very grateful.


R62- I'm so glad my post was helpful. It can be hard to get one's head around this therapy. I sense you are a lot like me, a real thinker/researcher...

I'm on round 7 and still learning to trust/let go.


Aliyalex- So sorry for your loss, especially with you being too sick to attend the funeral.

I'm also in a wheelchair and miss out on a lot of family functions for that reason so I can relate a little.


2010 is almost here. May we all walk in Light and Beauty next year!

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Ladies, I appreciate your generosity. Thank you for being so gracious and helpful.

At the same time, Gigi and I have had quite a few run ins in the past, and I am not going to take full responsibility for that.

I would be grateful to be able to resolve this privately or publically if Gigi is interested, but this will continue as long as we both participate on the same threads and the communication continues as it is.

If moderators would like to mediate, thats fine with me. I truly want to contribute in a positive way, but I will not tolerate communication as it stands.

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Interesting article today on the Mercola site:

232 Toxic Chemicals found in 10 babies.

Confirms what we are dealing with on the AI therapy.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/12/31/232-Toxic-Chemicals-found-in-10-Babies.aspx

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i believe tis thread has become a close community. we are all in varying steps of this dance with human frailty in the face of being bombarded by energy-light and dark. with any intimate, alive community with a large intention for healing, transforming dark to light. with that come conflict. i see much respect and gratitude for ALL the voices.

thank you all for the caring and courage. happy new year!

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i believe tis thread has become a close community. we are all in varying steps of this dance with human frailty in the face of being bombarded by energy-light and dark. with any intimate, alive community with a large intention for healing, transforming dark to light. comes conflict. i see much respect and gratitude here for ALL the voices.

thank you all for the caring and courage. happy new year!

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Wow...I've been away from the site with all the holiday activities...and now just reading the past few pages. Not sure where to begin.

Don't want anyone to think I am not responding to questions or just being silent. I only have my personal experiences to share and have no true wisdom beyond my experience about AI other than what others have shared here on this site.

Only to say I felt led to start AI by what others would refer to as blindly...but what I refer to as enlightened direction on an unknown path full of thorns, weeds, and bog...with a clearing ahead in sight.

This is what I see and have experienced. Don't think I would have attempted this therapy without this inner enlightened vision before me. I don't follow the leader normally...I am not a spontaneous decision maker and am conservative in nature. I don't need to be in the comfort zone in life...as I am willing to try the less conventional approach if I deem it safe...that's just my make up.

I believe the road less traveled is usually the right road in most circumstances.

In my opinion it takes a certain individual to have this pioneering approach to unconventional therapies. Others are more comfortable waiting for results of others or seeing test results from a lab. Nothing wrong with this...you must know yourself.

Those still questioning and uncomfortable are doing so for a reason...trust your instincts I would suggest. Your whole mind, body , spirit need to be open for the healing in this therapy. Especially to go through the regulations as they individually occur.

please pm me if you would like my comments on anything in particular.

I have just received an overwheming number of pm's in the past few days and will get back to you all soon. I always reply to pm's eventually. I want each of you to experience all the healing possible.

I do believe AI is beneficial to everyone...I cannot see a downside unless you are too sick to begin and to get off your current regiment...just my thoughts. I do know a part of being toxic for some...as I had that problem big time...is the inability to make decisions. AI has helped me with that as well.

So know yourself and follow your heart. My buddies here..especially GIGI, NANA, Carrie, et al... have been very candid and helpful when I am in need. I am eternally grateful.

so please do not judge the way something is written...just look at the phenomenal content and heartfelt advice... and take what you can absorb from these awesome threads toward healing.

love to all

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LP - I read that this morning. Made me glad once again to be on AI. I worry for the future generations.

Edited to add: guess we posted at the same time. I was referring to the Mercola newsletter.

I appreciate the sound advice you offer in you post.

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Just because my personal need is to know more information does not mean I judge another who goes primarily with their intuition, heart, instinct. Just as I do not want to be judged for asking questions and for my desire to know.

It is interesting the individual journeys people take to their healing and what we define as healing, for that matter.

My sister, who healed with Spirit energy and hands on healing that also involved physical body work specifically focusing on scar tissue... all intuituvely lead... has told me for years its about dysregulation and the ANS and NOT lyme or any other diagnosis I might have. Thats her experience and her belief. And she may be right.

She helped herself balance her dysregulation, at least enough to be well, using a special table called a Trinity Table along with her Spiritual "connections" and body work. Possibly she could also benefit even more from AI. And possibly her own experience is all she needs.

Some people will find that to be crazy (her table, her healing experience), but she doesnt care because she is already healed. She has nothing to prove in that sense. She is happy and grateful.

There are people who have used prayer like Joel Osteen's mother and many others, Field Control Therapy, Energy healers, who have healed from various chronic and deadly illness.

I think often what matters most is what your mind and body feel most comfortable with. What opens your own body to "regulate" its dysregulation is also a spiritual and emotional substance as well as an energetic substance, which I would think on one level are the same in some way.

AI is not the only "therapy" that brings regulation to the body, but it sure seems like a very efficient and "easy" way to do so (in that you take the drops as you are told) and definitely less expensive than some measures.

I understand that some therapies dont work for everyone and I would personally have to include AI in that because I dont think there is a cure all for everyone, and/but just because one thing does not work for me does not mean I have the right to say it wont work for anyone else.

Its nice some of you have found companionship with others using AI. I am grateful for my healing buddies as well. We all need them.

I also agree it is important not to judge what is written without giving thought and heart to what the intention is of the one communicating and the fact that this form of communication is not always reliable. I also think we are responsible for how we communicate... and I realize that this also applies to me.

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Well said R62!

I too have experienced healing in many forms...and can attest to the power of prayer.

My lyme did not go away with the AI therapy...it went away at a prayer service...my daughter and myself were both opened and freed spiritually when a relic of St Faustina was placed on our heads. This is not remission, this is gone! The priest with the relic announced boldly that our lyme disease was gone...he did not know from us that we were silently praying for that!

I never posted the details before...but this is true and real. Something I never in my past would have tried nor thought possible for me. Until I was open and lead to that particular place...it was a gift. Why me, and why only lyme gone? Who can say. But my LLMD confirms that my labs show the change, and my ND confirms with ART that lyme was present and now there is no frequency for lyme in either of us! Certain specific symptoms went away immediately. Other, fibromyalgia type symptoms, and odd dysregulations remain. Lupus remains.

I was invited at the right time in my healing journey...all roads led there...and now are leading me through the AI therapy for residual cleanup of all the toxins that cause my immune system to work on overdrive and block my body systems...

This is how I experience that it is not just lyme!

It is individual. And as doors open, we would deprive ourselves not to walk through them.

But the real healing is spiritual which is light and what a journey!

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LP, wow. I am in awe. Thank you for sharing this.

I do believe this can happen. I also know so many who hope for this to happen and it does not. I have become jealous of my sister's healing, and her's was not instant in the sense that she was not instantly aware and feeling her healing at least.

What happened for her in the process was a total paradigm shift. Totally different view that is very hard for me to explain. She became grateful.. alot. She saw the world differently. I think this happened over time. She came into a faith and belief in her own healing (and for her, her own sense of God) as if she claimed it as she was still healing in the process she kept claiming it.

She was also very open to Guidance, intuition, and less fearful of the process, her symptoms. That, for me, would include fear of making mistakes and shifting direction, as everything does not pan out for everyone. She feared her symptoms less. She no longer feared death.

There is so much to healing and it *is* so individual. Some people may heal on abx and trusting in their doctor. Others Burhers herbs.. Ive heard accounts. Others rife, photons and so on. The extent of their healing is not mine to judge. Its theirs as is my sisters healing. She is happy where she is and has a light about her that I wish I had.

Do they have dysregulation work to do on top of that? Possibly, probably to varying degrees. I dont know what shifts can take place while one is healing. I know that my sister tolerates things she could not and it seems her body automatically detoxed on its on at times. ??? It would be interesting to see her test but she wont do that. She is satisisfied where she is, which is not perfect health. (thyroid issues)

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thanks. i cleared some PM messages.
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Just a warning: if AI is doing homeopathic drops (which are in fact, photonic treatment if I understood Prof. Popp well), they CAN'T disclose that publicly.

If they do homeopathic drops in countries like Belgium and use any information from the patient / client, they are doing illegal treatment (because homeopathic autonosodes are not anymore allowed to be sold like that).

I wonder if in Germany, that wouldn't apply too as there is SO MUCH pressure to erradicate homeopathy. I am not there anymore to ask people around, but I suspect that autonosodes is not something the pharma industry is willing to allow it to progress freely, because of huge positive impacts on treatments.

Besides, it's next to costless and no one can do any proprietary treatment from it.

Maybe they are not unwilling to say what they do for legal reasons, to protect this type of treatment from the big brothers?

In Belgium, I know a pharmacist who now does homeopathic autonosodes for clients hidden in his lab. If he is caught, he said, he can get prosecuted.

Big Brother is not fun and we sufferers have everything to lose

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Brussels, your warning is unnecessary here. The
AI/PSP therapy has absolutely nothing in common with Homeopathy. If you don't understand the therapy, it may be well to read their website or call them.

"Is this therapy similar to homeopathy?
A clear NO!"

I will also translate their last sentence from below as best I can in order not to misinterpret:

"So once more: The Regu-Immun Therapy is a method that stands by itself, and at this time is the only method and has nothing whatsoever in common with all other alternative methods, nothing whatsoever."

I will not translate the rest.

Text from their website follows:

Ist die Therapie hnlich wie Homopathie?
Ein klares NEIN!

Wir mchten hier nur klarstellen, dass unsere REGU-IMMUN-Therapie mit der Homopathie nichts gemeinsam hat. Whrend in der Homopathie ja versucht wird, durch einen Reiz eine Reaktion auszulsen, die dann mglicherweise zu einer positiven Vernderung fhrt, geht es bei der REGU-IMMUN-Therapie darum, Fehlinformationen`` zu korrigieren, die den Krper veranlassen, falsch zu regulieren, so dass er mglicherweise in eine Sackgasse endet. Das heit: auf der einen Seite gibt es keine weiteren Mglichkeiten der Regulation, und auf der anderen Seite entstehen dann chronische Krankheiten.

Wenn Strungen auf unseren Krper einwirken, versucht er immer einen Ausgleich herzustellen, um wieder ins Gleichgewicht zu kommen. Reagiert er beispielsweise auf Stoffe (wie Weizenmolekle) falsch, wird auch hier versucht ein Ausgleich herzustellen. Das kann jedoch nicht gelingen, weil der Stoff ja in Wahrheit ein natrlicher Stoff ist, praktisch nicht zu meiden ist, und von den Menschen nicht als Feind identifiziert wird. Weizen ist eben ein Grundnahrungsmittel.

Das zweite Problem ist, dass diese falsche Reaktion auf einen natrlichen Stoff, fr den Krper normal ist. Ein Paradoxum, das den Krper letztlich dazu veranlasst, sich in eine falsche Richtung zu entwickeln, bis er keine weiteren Mglichkeiten hat. Dieses Stadium der Materie nennen wir allgemein chronische`` Krankheiten, die ja schulmedizinisch nicht heilbar sind.

Fr den Krper ist diese falsche Reaktion auf einen harmlosen und natrlichen Stoff normal, weil er diese Handlungsanweisung`` vererbt bekommen hat. Vererbt wie ein Talent`` oder eine bestimmte Eigenschaft`` der Eltern, Groeltern usw.

Damit der Krper nun wieder ordnungsgem regulieren kann, muss er die Regulationsschritte teilweise rckwrts gehen. Und zwar jeweils bis zu den Punkten (Weichen), wo er sich in die falsche Richtung entwickelt hat. Diese Aufgaben bernehmen unsere Tropfen. Die Informationen darin sind ausschlielich aus dem Krper, der reorganisiert werden soll, allerdings von uns modifiziert. Wie viele solche falschen Weichen es gibt, ist abhngig davon, wie lange die Strungen vorhanden sind. Oder etwas leichter ausgedrckt: es ist wie eine Zwiebel schlen. Erst wenn die obere Schicht korrigiert wurde, wird die Sicht, und damit die Mglichkeit fr, auf untere Schichten mglich, wobei jede Schicht oder Weiche ein anderes Verhalten des Krpers zeigen kann. Katja ist hierfr ein gutes Beispiel, da der Betroffene subjektiv`` glaubt oder meint zu spren, dass es wieder schlechter wird. Wir jedoch wissen objektiv``, dass es eben immer besser wird. Darum ist es ja auch so wichtig dran zu bleiben und nicht aufzugeben. Irgendwann erreichen wir immer das Ziel, oder um bei unserem Beispiel der Zwiebel zu bleiben, den Kern. Und erst wenn auch die letzte Schicht, oder falschen Weichenstellung korrigiert ist, kann der Krper daran gehen, sich diesmal in die richtige Richtung zu entwickeln.

Also noch einmal: Die REGU-IMMUN-Therapie ist ein eigenstndiges und bisher einmaliges Verfahren und hat mit allen alternativen Methoden nichts, aber auch gar nichts gemeinsam.

Nach oben

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Gigi,

No need to be rude to Brussels. She was just trying to be helpful and in her statement she did say "if AI is doing homeopathic drops."

Plus Brussels is in full remission from homeopathy and photon therapy.

I can't speak for Brussels whether she has read the AI site or not. I do know that I have read the site and tried to translate the German and still do not fully understand it.

I also know that I personally have done 6 rounds of AI and have not seem one bit of improvement from it. That does not mean it won't benefit others, but it might mean that it is not the protocol for everyone.

I did find it interesting on the site to read the testimonials and the one healer you mentioned earlier (not by name on this thread, but you have mentioned her name to me and others outside this forum) testified that AI helped cure her cat. Yet, this healer uses it in her human healing therapy and never mentions its use there (unless I missed something in the testimonials).

I wish you and everyone a Happy New Year and success with AI.

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Here is a rough translation of what Gigi copied in German from the AI website: Time to translate---30 seconds (with goole translator, of course) [Smile]

"Is the treatment like homeopathy?
A clear NO!

We would like to just make it clear that our REGU-IMMUN therapy with homeopathy has nothing in common. While an attempt is in homeopathy so, triggering a response by a stimulus, which then may lead to a positive change, is what the REGU-IMMUN therapy a matter of "correcting misinformation" that cause the body to regulate false, so that it may end in an impasse. That is, on the one hand there are no more possibilities of regulation, and on the other hand, arise from chronic diseases.

When disturbances affect our body, he always tries to strike a balance to get back into balance. For example, he reacts to substances (such as wheat molecules) is false, is also trying to strike a balance. This can not succeed, however, because the substance is in truth a natural substance that is not practical to avoid, and will not be identified by the people as the enemy. Wheat is just a staple food.

The second problem is that the wrong reaction normally on a natural substance in the body. A paradox in which the body eventually lead it to develop in the wrong direction until he has no other options. This stage of the matter we commonly call "chronic" diseases, which indeed can not be cured by conventional medicine.

For the body this false response to a harmless substance is natural and normal, because he got passed this "guide to action." Inherited as a "talent" or a certain "property" of parents, grandparents, etc.

For the body to properly regulate again, he must go the regulation of some steps backward. And), although in each case up to the points (points where he has developed in the wrong direction. These tasks take over our wines. The information contained therein is entirely from the body, which is to be reorganized, but modified by us. How many such wrong choices out there is depending on how long the disruptions are present. Or something more easily expressed: it is like peeling an onion. Only when the top layer is resolved, the view, and thus the possibility for possible on lower layers, each layer or separator can show a different behavior of the body. Katja is a good example, because the person "subjective" means to feel or believe that it is worse again. We know, however, "objective", that it is just getting better. That is why it's so important, stay tuned and do not give up. Eventually, we always reach the target, or to stay with our example of the onion to the core. And only when the last layer, or incorrect shift is corrected, the body can begin to develop in this time in the right direction.

So once again: The REGU-IMMUN therapy is an independent and unprecedented process and has with all the alternative methods of nothing, absolutely nothing in common. "

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I don't know what was rude up there. The quote from HG had the exclamation point in it - if it was the emphasis you thought was rude.

I believe that Selma and Gigi have a long standing relationship that is above hurt feelings and reading in things that are not there. I believe Selma has credited Gigi for saving her life. Selma and Gigi can correct me if I am wrong.

HG has said over and over and Gigi warned us all - doing different therapies is not recommended.

I don't know what is on B W's report but it is effective for animals and humans. She says this.

It is only as ineffective as we make it by our own approach. We choose.

It seems (and this is not aimed at anyone in particular) that this thread has taken a negative turn in the last day and a half and is getting far away from the point.

This is the first time I have experienced accusations and the like on this thread.

I hope it can all stop and we can once again get back to the subject at hand: Allergie-Immun, not personality conflicts.

If we are looking for something we will find it.

Whatever our antennae are programed to look for, there it is.

Hope I am making sense.

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Thanks Nana for putting us back on the positive track.

Just finished my round 8. Daughter is almost done her 7th. She is experiencing some mild depression again with tears, lethargy and no motivation to do anything for no reason. She has had this before and it had lifted...but not entirely. IT is now back.

It is hard for me to take when I see her doing well, then getting down again mentally as her body is clearing. I believe it will pass as she is now removing chemicals. But she is unhappy today. She has asked to try an antidepressant...and I am not wanting her to do this while on the drops...

So there are ups and downs along the way for sure.

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Interesting article:

http://www.viewzone.com/dna.html

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Sorry she's having a rough time LP.

Ups and downs for sure. I was REALLY depressed for a couple weeks just before the holidays. It passed but I am still finding myself with not a lot of motivation.

I think the tears come for a reason. Maybe if she just goes with it, she will feel better.

My Christmas tree may stay up until next year! Don't feel like spending the energy to take it down.

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I am having those up & downs too. Round 6 brought anxiety and depression -so bad, I could not sleep.

Now, a week into round 7, I feel oddly peaceful. Haven't felt this way in ages.

When I do cry, the tears burn in a way they never have before. I know it is toxins releasing.

It will pass, LP. [group hug]

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Hi LP,

I can relate to what your daughter is feeling. I too have been experiencing alot of tears. tonight i cried so much my eyes are sore. Some of this i think is from travels... I am quite ill and have come home to the east coast for Christmas. But i do think that chemicals tend to do this in our physiology.
In some ways, my family really dosnt understand this whole thing..and i think if i could make a remedy called "acceptance" i would.
zombie, ic an relate to tears "burning" am having the very same thing.
and i think your right..it will pass.

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And don't forget, we are heading into full moon!
Parasites are coming out swinging, out dancing ... drink some milk and eat some cheese and you may catch a few while they are having their get-togethers!! That's the time of month my doctor's phone never stops ringing.

Happy New Year to All!

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Hey, whatever happened to ericaf?!
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I was wondering the very same thing about Ericaf.

Yes, a full moon..a blue moon at that.

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No worry, Hiker, I didn't take what Gigi said as offense at all! I just read it now, as things went busy these last days here.

I just said that IF the treatment AI is proposing could have something to do with homeopathy, they wouldn't be able to be selling it openly as that. They wouldn't be ALLOWED to, if you see what I mean.

Just as simple as that. No intention to harm their image!

Happy New Year to you all !!!

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Thanks, Brussels. Obviously I read into what Gigi said as some rudeness, but maybe it is just her way of wriing. My apologies if I offended you, Gigi, or anyone else.

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I too am wondering about ericaf... Also wondering how kissis is doing.

Are you both still out there???

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Homeopathy is legal in European countries. The law differs for the different states. I have friends who are trained in homeopathy and many Klinghardt therapists practice it throughout Europe, without offending the laws. I have some of their books - not brochures. My mother used it most of her life. Homeopathy is well and alive, and legal.

Allergie Immun and the PSP (Polarity Signature Programming) therapy have nothing in common with homeopathy and stands on its own.

http://www.similima.com/homeoeurope.html

You all have a wonderful productive day.

Take care.

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Im still alive but doing not so great, I dont know if it is A1 , yeast or my M.S. getting worse? maybe some of the above. I know The yeast is back and I have been very depresed and have been upset and crying for weeks. I have been waiting on round 7 to arive and finished 6 several weeks ago so I'm hoping 7 will give me a boost I so despartly need. I felt that once from round 2 I remember, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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The body has taken many wrong "dead end" roads to arrive where it is now. It has to retrace those wrong turns, dead ends, but in the right direction. That takes time. That is what HG is doing. The body is very very busy finding its way back, to regulate and learn to control again all of its functions.

None of us got sick in a few months. It took a long time to reach the point where the total burden could not be managed any longer. It did not start with the tickbite. That is my firm belief and exactly what Dr. K. convinced me of.

Looking back a few years, I always ended my day with saying "tomorrow will be a better day" and finally the day had snuck in to where I had to admit to myself "yes, I am better than I was three month ago".

Keep the faith. Plan your sending in for new drops well ahead of time. Get the envelope ready. This time of year, the mail is sooooo slow. They are cutting down on postal offices all over Germany. I am still waiting for my friend's Christmas cookies she mailed from Germany the first days of December.
It's good to get the remaining symptom list together on the day you take your day 14 drops and mail it off right away with your saliva sample on day 15. That way you won't have such a long break in between bottles.

You ARE getting better and you won't be saying "my" before your diagnosis for long. When is used the possessive in front of one of my symptoms one day, Dr. K. warned me "you don't own it"...

Be patient, the lights will come on again soon. I always think of the Christmas tree light chain when one missing little bulb turned off the whole string!

Take care.

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I for one certainly needed that little reminder!

Thank you.

I feel like a walking mercury molecule today. Binders, binders, binders. Haven't needed this many in quite a spell. Large quantities of chlorella.

I have spent the entire day trying to get on top of it and it just now is starting to calm down.

Kissis - good to hear from you. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you too. Seems like more than a few have experienced the depression and crying.

All part of the clearing out I think, as this works on the emotional level too.

Please keep us posted on how you are doing if you feel up to it.

ND

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Yes, i can relate NAna..

I also feel like a walking mercury molecule..I am testing for binders galore..everyting..pectin, alginate, clay.

What a funny way to put it.

Hope all is well..

Runner

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Nana & Runner, LP and All, in all the years of my exposure to heavy metal detox by hundreds of people, patients of DK and all the rest I have met over the years, I have never seen any therapy cause a release of heavy metals such as AI. I cannot describe my feeling about this because I am still also in the middle of it --- THE ONLY WAY OUT IS THE WAY THROUGH --- , but it is, to say the least, most exciting even if it feels miserable at times. Heavy metal detox is one of the most difficult therapies and in the end the most rewarding, because we are becoming free of this element that changed us over time into different people. At least, I started to sense this in my late teens when I had to learn to deal with the first amalgam filling.

Be happy that it is finally happening. Runner, I remember the absolute misery you went through starting quite a few years ago when we first met.
Your problems always evolved around metals and teeth and I am convinced that mercury & Co. is one of the major problems for many of us. If it weren't for the hg's, pb, and the rest of these, the pathogens would not have had a chance. But the metals, subsequent dental toxins, etc. changed us and we became vulnerable.

Never mind, this is just me having a little talk with myself. My mentor Klinghardt brainwashed me - because everything he talks about eventually comes back to this subject as the starting point of our
chronic misery.

Be patient - be patient - be patient. I know that this will be a good year. We all deserve it.

Take care.

P.S. to our MS friend, when I asked HG several months ago, he told me that his MS wheelchaired patient took about 20 bottles before she started to dance again. The last time he saw her was when she was taking off on her bicycle.

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Right before i started AI, i looked at my blood with darkfield microscopy and the ND pointed out HM in all my cells despite over a year of weekly Ca EDTA chelation and DMSA. after 11 days of my 1st round of drops, i looked again and it was released from the cells and i needed more binders.

pretty amazing.

no wonder i feel wiped out. So when do i get to feel better?

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Lost trck if I'm on my fifth or sixth dose.

Chiming cause I loved Parfait's healing story. If you Google, many peoiple have been healed of Lyme by God. I have been seeking and prayed for for years. Gets one disappointe dthough.

My problem lately is super, inflammed, painful gums. ANy suggestions? Never had this problem pre-Lyme and it just gets worse. I feel like I've been socked in the jaw. To tell the truth, lately this is the only thing really bothering me. But the pain is enough to go mad.

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hobo - I don't know what kind of dental history you have. Do you have root canals?

There were rounds when all the bones in my face were painful and I figured it was the metals/toxins coming out.

I alternate brushing my teeth with baking soda and coconut oil. Soda keeps your mouth less acidic and the coconut oil it GREAT for gums. I find it easier to brush with it than doing oil pulling. Although when you try to rinse you are basically doing the same thing.

My dentist says she has seen people turn gum disease around with coconut oil so maybe it would help with the inflammation.

aliyalex, that's pretty incredible.

I don't how you endured a year of IV chelation. Did you have the metals checked off on your first AI results?

I had IV chelation once a couple of years ago when metals weren't recognized and I thought I wouldn't live through the night!!

Gigi, you are so right about how these metals change us. I have my old dental records and if I wanted to take the time to correlate what that dentist did to me with my how health declined and my personality changed....I'm sure there is a pattern.

I do know that the very last root canal I had done and was put on a week of penicillin - within a month I went to bed and basically didn't get up for the next 3 months.

Didn't know I had lyme at the time - one more root canal and one more abx did me in!!

Interesting that my husband had all the metals checked as well. He never had an amalgam filling in his life. He has not had the same issue with metals pouring out.


Third straight day of snow here in Maine!

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Yes, I have some root canals. One may be coming out this week. I am afraid of the extraction howver cause it is an upper tooth, entwined in a sinus.

But the gums problems started before the root canal. It started after Lyme.

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Hobo, you are in Newnan. I am in jonesboro visiting my mom for the holidays. Hello neighbor.

Gigi and all thank you for what you shared. I have always believed it to be true as well. After dk it was so hard for me to convince any other physician that my main problems are heavy metals. it creates a ground for microbes to flourish. the toxicity is the problem. i know how hard it is to unleash the metals and mine are flowing right now.
i am staying on top of the binders and getting alot of rest. with ai, my system has calmed down in some ways . i was so allergic to everything..even the paint on the walls of my apartment.
but now i am showing the infections which i have not shown as aparent before. so i am not quite sure what to do about it..
Nana, thank you for mentioning the gums. I too am having bleeding gums and very very sore. so i will try the coco oil. i want to get the gums cleaned but i am afraid i will stir up too many toxins. the last time i did i ended up with an absess on my skin. I thnkthe stuff just dosnt have a place to go.

Everyone stay warm..heres to a blessed and healthy new year to all. Runner

p.s. aliya , your doctor actually saw the heavy metals were releasing through the microscope?

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Hobo - do you have confidence in your dentist and his he confident he can get that area cleaned up?

My upper root canal tooth that was removed - it went into the sinus and out came a cyst when he was cleaning up the area. Good to get this done.

They hold sooooo many toxins.

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Re: HM: my ND pointed out these circles around the dry RBC samples. he told me they were HM. when he repeated the microscopy peek after i was on AI over a week. he called and told me the circles were released.

chelation never effected me. nor the HM, evidently. aliyah

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Nana, did a regular dentist do it or an oral surgeon?

Did you have a sinus puncture from it?

How was the dealt with?

My gut feeling is that it must be removed. I'm justa bit scared.

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My friend came over and did some muscle testing and found that not only HM and mycoplasma was released, but also pertussin. and the latter released birth trauma.

56 years ago i was born with pertussin.

birth trauma was listed in my traumas that needed to be cleared as per AI, 1st round. She didnt know that. Woo woo.

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good support for the liver with clinical trials.

www.live.52.com

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Aliyalex...this is amazing and so encouraging. Thanks for sharing this! I love it when what originally was tested positive is now testing negative...not only feeling gone, but is gone! You know it, but others see it too!

Also Gigi...as always thanks for your encouraging and uplifting thoughts! It keeps me going. "the only way out is the way through!" I am experiencing this! You and all are helping me keep this in mind when I need it most!

It is amazing to me as well how many of us are clearing the metals. I am having a rebirth physically and mentally.

Hobo- I"m glad you appreciated my story, as I have been holding back telling it as not to have others compare of why this happens to some and not others. Nor did I want to have some reading this post to think we are super wacky excentric oddball people. No one has the ability to know me personally and judge my credibility...so I take risks to help others, and hopefully not hurt others from trying the therapy. We each have our own spiritual journeys and unique relationship with God.

But only wanted to emphasize how important our spiritual healing and emotional freedom are to allow the body physically to heal. God has always been a very important part of my life. I have always believed in healing as I have witnessed it in others in the past. I have prayed weekly for it silently over the years for myself and daughter at church...but never had exprienced what I did that particular day I was invited to something completely out of my comfort zone...yet knowing it was credible for some. I wasn't sure if I believed before that a relic...an actual bone from a saint, could hold a healing for us. Never would have put my hope and faith in that...until that day. I said yes God...and had an amazing experience. I was able to be open and recieve the gift in a way out of my normal way of a God encounter.

I say this to all: be open to the invitation you get...if it seems right and you are drawn to accept it...just accept it! Go for it. IT is a big part of your healing.

sorry for always having long posts...but just had another revelation as my kids are finally gone back to school today...

The kids have given me an intense underlying amount of stress over the years, that I just thought was normal living. The majority of my healing has taken place as they are away in college. Stress returned the past two weeks as I again was their caregiver.

Learning to release them...but to also be there to guide and help them when needed, and boy do they need it sometimes! Had some heavy duty situations to contend with this week!

So I am looking forward to being the empty nester again now...working on more healing for myself for once! I believe it's ok to be selfish a little now!

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I do believe the problems with my gums are allergy related -- a type of stomachitis. I can pretty much taste the histimine being released.

I was hopin AI would turn this around. SO far, not yet.

Light, I had been involved in minsistry for about 7 years at a healing church. My current church believes in it too. I have seen great miracles. And, I guess me being alive is a miracle too. But the big one hasn't happened yet.

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Hobo - my biological dentist does a lot of surgery. I was pretty much out of it so don't remember a lot of the details.

I do know that he did have to go into the sinus and that's were the cyst was. It was sent off for testing and everything healed.

He did not suggest any abx, only olive leaf extract.

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So your dentist is an oral surgeon too?
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Hobo - He is a DMD, his wife a DDS. They came recommended through the Paracelsus Institute in Switzerland.

It is his knowledge of root canals and related issues that got that recommendation. He handles all of the extractions. I know that there is another surgeon he sends people to if it involves several wisdom teeth.

They have a doctor who works with patients on heavy metals, a chiropractor, massage therapist and an ND who uses EAV for testing toxin levels in roots canals and for compatible replacement materials.

The works. Their practice is really about the whole person.

I think I told this story here once before but this is the kind of person he is: when he was about to take some of my teeth out, he asked me to take a few minutes and give thanks to my teeth for trying for so very long, and ask them to let go now.

Besides bringing tears to my eyes, the teeth came out with a few simple twists, whole.

A tooth I had extracted by my old dentist was very difficult and came out in dozens of pieces and was left a mess.

This is the difference that made it worth the $$ for me.

ND

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As you know most dentists and oral suregeons won't remove teeth withouta fight. My dentist's coworker will but she is NOT an oral suregon. I mayhave to look around. I need one close to home.
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Kissis and Hobokinite, glad to see you both checking in.

I was also wondering about Joey (mojoey)-he finished AI after 5 rounds. Did he ever resend a sample for retesting after 3 months?

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I've been quiet here for a while as I was away over Xmas, then returned to find I had mistakenly been banned from the forum, which has only just been rectified.

Aliyalex, I should like to add my condolences for the loss of your mother ...such a huge thing to deal with and even harder when unwell. I hope AI continues to show improvements for you and it's great that you have easy access to the darkfield microscopy to track things.

Lp, thank you for decsribing your healing: it was very brave of you to trust us, as I know exactly what you mean about credibility etc, but I'm so glad you did.

Kissis, so sorry to read that you're not doing well at the moment and hope round 7 helps you: I'm just slightly behind you, having just started round 6 [but 5 was cut short, as my drops disappeared!].

Hobok, good luck with the root canals!

And to everyone else here I haven't mentioned by name, I wish a Happy and Healthy New Year!


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I apo;ogizefor this simple question.I am verysick and can't read right now. Will this correct my soy allaergy?

Thank you

Ali, sorry for your loss.

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C3mom,

AI may correct the soy allergy and it may not. From what I understand it is focusing on mistakes in the DNA and it may depend on what causes your allergy.

For example, I am allergic to milk and AI did not even show that allergy in their findings. Am also allergic to eggs and that is not on AI's list.

But there is a chance it will be corrected anyway. One can always hope!

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Thanks hiker. How are you doing with it and how long do you have till you will know?
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Hiker and C3Mom, Mr. G says often that it is not the egg, but the wheat the chicken is fed. When the wheat allergy is taken care of - then the egg goes too.

Same for milk - cows are fed both corn and wheat.

If milk did not show up, the the wheat/corn in it will cause a reaction and milk itself is not the problem.

All of this info is in the translated website.

Sorry you can't read right now C3Mom, it will take care of your soy allergy.

There is an extensive study with great results.

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Still giving it a try. I think I finished five rounds. Alergie sand sensatives however are teh same to worse.

Praying hard.

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All my food allergies corrected on the drops as well as my kids. They only said I had corn, soy, gluten, wheat...but I know I was sensitive to eggs, and milk products as well. all is fine now.

Just repeating this for those who are new to the thread as this came up on another thread about gluten intolerance recently..

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Light, so youc an eat tehse with no problems when you had problems before?

Are your pollen allergies any better?

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c3mom,

I have done 6 rounds. Prior to AI I used the bionic and it got rid of a lot of allergies for me.

I am a celiac as is my mom and I still cannot tolerate anything with gluten. Whether that will clear remains to be seen. And if it doesn't I can live with that. If my mom has lived with it and she is healthy in her mid80's except for the celiac, I can deal with it. It is my lyme symptoms I would like to keep decreasing. The bionic helped some with that. I have not see AI help with that, but then again I know it is not for clearing lyme.

I remain very optimistic that I will be well.

Blessings. Hiker53

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I will post what said on the other thread:

"I have almost finished my 7th round of AI and I still react to my problem foods (wheat, corn & soy) but not as violently. It is much lessened but still an issue for me.

It now takes 1-2 days to recover from an exposure (used to be 2 weeks). My main reactions are gut palsy and angular cheilitis.

I think AI has definitely helped but I am not "cured"."

My pollen allergies and asthma do seem to be better.

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Another simple question -

Anyone having luck with clearing severe peanut, tree nut or seed allergies?

I can't read the entire thread - too much for my eyes - but am very interested in finding out if there is a possibility of hope for food allergic people with life-threatening allergies.

My son tests positive for many foods via IgE and skin prick testing, and unfortunately - we don't need a lot of testing to see anaphylaxis. It is terrifying.

The allergies that you are clearing - are they histamine-reaction type allergies?

Or IgG type allergies or food intolerances?

Hoping for the possibility of any way to make my son's life easier and safer.

Thanks very much in advance for any help or info.

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I am not sure if it will clear nut allergies.

Nuts are not listed among the foods in the 1st report.

You might ask AI directly.

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Thanks, zombie, for the quick reply.

I'll try asking them.

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Cactus, the tough part would be to confirm it. No doc in their right mind will ever monitor the child for reaction to nuts w/that risk. When they hear the child took 'water drops', they'll run, right? [Frown]
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If you would like to better understand what AI is all about, do some translating with one of the engines:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

You can enter up to 150 words and get a translation in seconds. It is a little extra effort, but it will help to know what you are getting into. AI strictly corrects the electromagnetic errors in the DNA, i.e. the wiring.

If you hit a "w" on your keyboard and a "K" appears on your screen, this is an informational error in the connection.

This is what AI attempts to do - correct the "shorts" that have become apparent in your Autonomic Nervous System. Or, some of the lights in your highrise have gone out, bulbs burned out, transmission failing. Cause unknown? Wrong treatment? Inherited tendencies causing chain reactions in the biochemical apparatus?

Allergies are an incorrect reaction by the body. The results cannot be dealt with on a molecular basis -- that we have learned by now. Maybe suppress, but not heal. AI searches for the errors and corrects them to be stored in the electromagnetic system of the DNA. No pills, no powders, just water spiked with the correct frequencies. And no homeopathics. Only the correct information our body can work with.

Only then follows the change in the biochemical reactions which will help us get some of the toxic burdens released. It takes time. If you have been unwell for ten years - AI drops will take at least one year. We probably have been sick for several years before we realized we were really not quite well anymore.

If you do other therapies that go contra and toss out more toxic material the body can't deal with while still very dysregulated, the positive effects of AI will be delayed.

Take care.

A nut or peanut allergy can be started by the body not recognizing certain fungi or mold and being unable to deal with it. It certainly is not the wheat grain or the peanut that nature provides us. There may be several factors causing a chain reaction. AI attempts to find them.

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Would vitamin and mineral supplements get in the way of the therapy?

We are working with an md/homeopath on detox and building the immune system. He uses Pekana homeopathics, and various vitamin and mineral supplements.

Is this too much going on at once, and would this, in anyone's opinion, hinder the tx?

Thanks.

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If you have numerous major allergies as most of us do or did before AI, you are probably allergic to a number of the supplements, and that is one of the reasons that speaks against taking them until at least the major allergies have been cleared. The allergies to these are causing us much of the problems we are dealing with.

Homeopathics are not recommended while on AI, because the information in homeopathics may be confusing to the system. Like listening to two or three radio stations at the same time!

I would not worry about building the immune system, because getting rid of all these very disturbing dysregulations will accomplish that.

This is basically the opinion of AI. Their answer: why add the things they are trying to unload with the therapy. Detoxing while allergic to the substances that we are trying to detox is not a good idea until the body can regulate again and recognize the toxins for what they are and move them out. You will probably see what I am trying to say if you decide to and see your first test results.

This is the information I received from AI -- after a lot of talk back and forth.
But of course the decision must be yours.

You may want to ask AI for their English brochure for clients. It explains more.

Hope this helps, linky.

Take care.

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Cactus, I had to write AI tonight and just had a response from them regarding nuts, peanuts, etc.

"Of course, our therapy helps a nut allergy. Up to now, however, it has never been the specific nut that was the problem, but rather the chemicals on the nuts."

Hope that helps you.

Take care.


P.S. we are being bombarded with 60,000 to 80,000 chemicals every day and the scientists are cooking up more every day. No wonder so many as so sick.

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Hope this link works. It is the entire site translated. You can click on anything there to continue reading more.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&langpair=de|en&u=http://www.allergie-immun.de/

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Hobo...in response to

"Light, so youc an eat tehse with no problems when you had problems before?

Are your pollen allergies any better?"

Yes, both my daughter's and my pollen allergies, which were extreme, are now virtually gone.Also we can now be around animals...my daughter was born extremely allergic to pollen, animals, and all growing things outside! Also to milk products, and most foods.

A.I. cleared her body to regulate these things...she is not allergic to anything that used to bother her last year! All allergy issues for her are gone...Will this last, I hope. I will report if anything changes.

She is happy to eat normally now. although because of her past history, she still watches what she eats. Could never eat pizza, bagels or ice cream...nor enjoy a birthday cake. Could not eat anything with tomatoes on it...no pasta sauce. When she did, big reaction!

I also had major gluten and milk product allergies that developed over time. She was born with hers.

But I will preface this by saying, before my original lyme diagnosis and abx treatment, way before A.I., I had such problems with nasal drainage, always drippy, chronic bronchitis which occasionally led to pnemonia, but did develop alergie induced asthma and was on an inhaler when needed. Lived with this for years!

Being a proactive person, I finally went to visit Dr. Mark Hyman, who wrote untra prevention, and did his three week detox box program. Just to see if I would get better. I did it as my energy was low...and I was feeling horrible with lyme symptoms and no diagnosis...not for allergies.

WEll, after the three weeks, my nasal drip ended! and my asthma went away. Have never used my inhaler since. This was amazing to me, as I did not expect this. My sensitivities to some plants also went away as far as breathing around cut flowers or being outdoors. But still had allergies when touching them or gardening.

This told me that something is off balance...so I started juicing regularly and trying to change my eating and lifestyle toward the natural approach. did this for several years prior to getting sicker with lyme.

This was the beginning of my journey...pre lyme diagnosis. This is why I may be farther along the road to healing and regulating with the AI than others. Although my food sensitivities/allergies still remained until this past year. My body would not digest my food until the last few months! This caused me much physical distress.

A.I. is working so well for me and my daughter.

The ultra prevention type/detox box program did not clear my food allergies or animal plant allergies. Just cleared my sinus and histamine reactions to pollens. It put me in a good place to start healing.

A.I. has helped me and daughter regulate our body systems I feel. We re both monthly getting better and better.

I picture a coil spiraling upward when I think of how to describe our healing process. We definatly are moving forward...slowly, steady, but in a circular fashion. We revisit past issues before or as they heal emotionally, and physically, and then we are clearing chemicals...then that stops for awhile, then we are clearing candida a little, then that stops, then we are clearing parasites, then that stops, then viruses then that stops, and around we go again...but always improved, moving upward on the coil/spiral toward total clearing.

With all this clearing in phases...symptoms erupt. This is not fun but it is not alarming...as they do not last. They clear pretty quickly in a few days or weeks.

It's like our bodies know how much clearing we can handle at a given time, and what to clear next on its own. We're just letting it happen, then evaluate after complete.

With the clearing we notice improved symptoms, then notice when the symptoms are gone! That is the onion peeling thing...little by little.

This is how I envision the A.I. in my mind as we heal. Hope this explains.

blessings..lp

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Nana...this is new to me as I am just learning what our livestock in the USA is being fed. I saw a documentary recently "Food INC." highlighting how cows and chicken are fed corn...because it is cheep...and it makes them gain weight faster....and that their bodies are not wired to eat corn. It's also political...kind of like the lyme controversy. The corn industry is more powerful than big pharma.

Their bodies do not recognize the corn as what is needed...they should be eating grasses or grains, etc...not corn. They are getting fatter on the corn which helps the processors make their profits quickly...and we are eating their flesh, the eggs or drinking the milk!

Anyone have a corn allergie on AI.? Most all processed foods in the USA have corn products used in various unnatural forms. I think we all have corn intolerance from these hidden sources more than wheat. Just my theory.

This is our food supply. No wonder our bodies are confused and are rejecting some of our food sources! We do not really know what we eat unless we grow our own!

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