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Well, maybe before long the bugs will be squirting us out in the toilet bowl.
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I never made the full moon/parasite connection, but given the timing, it does make sense.

Lex, on the next full moon we will have our cameras ready. The parasite will be tough to see -- only about a half inch or so. I will try to take a movie of it, otherwise it will only look like a bit of string floating in the water.

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On another note, my husband used to work in a plastic extrusion factory for a number of years. Clouds of white PVC dust floated everywhere with no ventilation. I'm sure that much of it collected in his body. Since it is not a heavy metal, does anyone know a good binder for PVC?

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thejoje, for plastics exposure -- Carnosine 500mg several times a day. Best to determine how much by energetic testing. And don't anyone buy your kids the flame retardant pyjamas! They sleep in that toxin!!!!!!

Here is a lot of important ways to help detox. Pay special attention to the Phospholipids. We find them to be very effective especially after eliminating the allergy to soy. Many supplements are soy-based. Wonder what we do to the body taking that stuff for years not realizing that we were actually allergic to it. I was not allergic to any foods, and I understand why my husband did not test well for soy products, lecithin, phospholipids, but soaks it up now almost daily.
I avoid giving or taking anything when it does not test with tensor. It may test again a few hours later or the next day.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:E-z4BIuFJbAJ:www.healingteethnaturally.com/dr-dietrich-klinghardt-dental-toxicity-issue.html+plastic+treatment+detox+klinghardt &cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

If you google Carnosine and Klinghardt you will find more info on carnosine. I took it for quite a while, and I will have to add a capsule to my test kit, so I don't miss testing it once in a while just in case more pthalates/plastics are surfacing.

Wise, I got my test vials (metal mix, etc., pesticides, insecticides) and treatment vials for lymphatics (with a green laser) from www.andreannarainville.com who was and still is Dr.K.'s top assistant in every respect. I think she will send you what you need. The vials are not expensive, unless you get the green laser. I use the laser often to treat a bruise or a hurt plus the lymphatics with the lymph vial.

Besides these, I have made myself a test kit with every capsule I own, liver, kidney, binders, vitamins, antifungals, antivirals, antiparasiticals. As I quickly test through all these with my tensor, I can quickly determine what my body is up to and needs for support. It
avoids guessing "what's wrong today?" If you don't own glass vial or don't want to purchase, wrap them in a bit of saran wrap and label it. A few glass vials are affordable and available on the internet, and as long as you learn to tensor, you might as well have a test kit -- even if it is just for a cold after all the present problems have faded away!

Take care.

P.S. AR also has a test vial for tonsils, kidneys, lymphatics, etc. - about 6 of them - and if you own the little green laser, you can first test with tensor and then treat with the laser - a few seconds is all it takes. I have stumbled and twisted a thumb - laser a few seconds - no bruise - no pain. A cut heals much more quickly if lasered right away. Etc., etc.

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GiGi et al

Premier Research Labs in Austin, Texas carries pure quartz crystal vials which are not expensive.

Andreanna's site is really informative. It's great that she shows viewers how to use the green laser.

I have one of those automatic green lasers -- hardly use it on myself.

GiGi, do you find you get a detox reaction from using the laser? Do you have an ultraviolet laser that Dr. K recommends for cases like cancer?

Dr. K. cautions that when we use a laser on another, the frequencies come back at us thus recommending the automatic one. Any comment?

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New moons are also a time of high parasitic activity. I am more sensitive to new moons than full. An old woodcutter told me once that he always found more worms at new moon in the trees than at any other time.
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Thank you Gigi!
Very helpful info.

Is there a difference between Carnosine and L-Carnosine?

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Who can tell me how much does it cost for test and treatment?

Is it only treat for allergy or lyme also?

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Hi friends. Little update on daughter.

She is doing FANTASTIC! Still on AI, but lately is "spot on" mentally at school, physically performing at high level with her sport, and happy!!!

I haven't experienced this with her since her very young days.

All I can say is that I am grateful for this therapy, and the help it has been to get her through the hard times.

Thanks to Gigi for sharing your wealth of health knowledge & wisdom. You have been a blessing to many, especially me!!!

I am feeling great as well! I share this for others to know there is improvement ahead if you keep on course!

many blessings

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To GIGI:
I want to send you a private message but don't know why can't sent it.

I want to ask you

1.whats this allergy immune therapy for?
2.Can I take those drop along with lyme treatment?
3.Can pregnant women take those drop?

Thanks.

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Great news LP!!
I am so happy for you.

How many rounds has she finished so far?

I'm sure that her youth has played a big role in her recovery.

Congrats!

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Hi there -- so my pneumonia is stemming from Mycoplasma that I think AI may have awoken!

Sad part is that my older son also has it but luckily we caught the pneumonia early on. He was getting the same itchy rash I have been having every day for a week, except he hadn't taken any medication yet. His pediatrician said we both had Myco, based on our cough, pneumonia and blistery rashes. My younger son managed to heal himself after three weeks of coughing. tomorrow will make three weeks of coughing for me. Doc said to expect a few more weeks of coughing, rash and fatigue. I'm staying a little more optimistic than that....

Andrea Candee tested my saliva last year right before I started AI and said I harbored Mycoplasma (along with other stuff). If so, perhaps this is yet again detoxing of the stuff at a week viral moment in my family.

LP -- your daughter's good health (and yours) is inspirational reason to keep on plugging along with AI -- Congrats!

Best to all,

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"You do not find this book, it finds you."

http://www.amazon.com/Challenge-Fate-Thorwald-Dethlefsen/product-reviews/0904575357/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Highly recommended!!! German author says "Health is only achieved through illness." No one on this planet, he says, is healthy. And our astrology chart is really a study lesson for our life -- life presents us with a series of problems to work out and that's the secret to accepting life at it is. We rail against illness, rail against this and that when things don't work out OUR way. Is there anyone on this site whose Lyme has not lifted them to a higher level of awareness?

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Apple pectin question: Does apple pectin only bind toxins or metals in the digestive tract or will it get into the blood and bind them there as well.

Am doing some heavy metal detox again and wanted clarification on this.

Thanks.

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Apple pectin does not work on a blood level. Protease does.

Working thru Round 5--I have to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, I have had amazing energy today. I am totally amazed. Got rid of two truckoads of "stuff" as we get house ready for sale. I never could have done this even a month ago. Stamina greatly improved.

Long live AI.

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Thanks, Lex, for the answer on apple pectin. Glad you are feeling energized. Weather is so gorgeous here that I am spending my long weekend outside in the yard, caulking holes in the cement driveway etc.

Am still pouring off metals like crazy--my washing machine is getting a workout cleaning all the sweaty t-shirts I have been through (about 4 per day).

I think this wave of metal detox is almost over, but who knows if/when more metals will be released.

Blessings.

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A sage once said, "The way to health is through illness."
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Dear GiGi and Lex,

I've got a situation with conflicting ideas of what is necessary here that I'd like help resolving.

I have been working very hard on detoxing, including a round of ten IV chelation treatments, using chlorella once a day, taking a fiber drink using bentonite clay, detoxing foot baths, and now detox foot pads (again--they helped me before and seem to be helping now).

I was interested in doing the QRL clay packs on the download areas to help clear up the detoxing pathways. When I ordered the supplies to do the clay packs, the customer service person said that I had to have a urine pH of 6.4 to 7.0 to be able to start them.

I have been following Byron Ray's recommendations, and have been using the Bio-Ray products LiverLife, NDF+, and Cytoflora for several months now.

There's an article at BioRay2000.com on "The Importance of pH Management During Detox." In this article, he states, "If the acid wastes of metabolism, and other acidic toxins are successfully leaving the body, the urine pH will reflect this by being acidic, at about 5.8-6.2....If one drains these acids, one also sees the saliva pH gradually return to where it should be, at about pH7, or alkaline....
"The more efficient you are at keeping the urine pH at 5.8, draining the acids, the sooner the saliva pH will respond towards alkalinity at 7. The goal is a saliva pH of 7 and a urine pH of 5.8....
"One cannot completely correct excessive aciditiy prior to heavy metal detox because the heavy metals are acidic and acid forming by a multitude of pathways....The person is taking loads of minerals, eating alkaline forming foods, regulating their elimination, practicing stress relief, yet the first morning saliva pH stays acidic (= pain and low energy). Once the metals are removed, the restoration of the alkaline reserve proceeds more smoothly."

So, it looks to me like I am being told by the QRL personnel to have already gotten rid of the heavy metals--and therefore have an alkaline pH urine--before I do the steps to get rid of the metals!

Is this correct?

Or, can the mud packs on the download areas of the hands and feet be done when one still has an acidic urine?

Or, is the BioRay data incorrect, and the most vital thing to get the urine pH up to 6.4-7.0??

Or, is there something else entirely that I ought to be doing?????

Best,

Cass A

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Cass, You ought to seek out the services of a QRA practitioner because it seems to info you are getting is skewed.

PH is very important and necessary to detox without going thru a lot of problems. PRL believes you should not detox metals etc. while system is acidic.

It is all too complicated to get into now -- the PH is the basics -- other things are built on top of that.

As I mentioned before, I would not do the clays without a practitioner holding your hand esp. if you are in a sensitive state. A healthy football player would have no problem. But when we're full of toxins, I believe we need the help of a qualified practitioner to get us thru the humps.

Dr. Marshall, founder of PRL, also has an office in the L.A. area so why not make an appt. with the master himself or someone in his clinic who has been doing this stuff a long time? My suggestion is don't try to figure it out yourself. A voice on the phone, when you are really struggling, will not get you a home run.

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Cass, You ought to seek out the services of a QRA practitioner because it seems to info you are getting is skewed.

PH is very important and necessary to detox without going thru a lot of problems. PRL believes you should not detox metals etc. while system is acidic.

It is all too complicated to get into now -- the PH is the basics -- other things are built on top of that.

As I mentioned before, I would not do the clays without a practitioner holding your hand esp. if you are in a sensitive state. A healthy football player would have no problem. But when we're full of toxins, I believe we need the help of a qualified practitioner to get us thru the humps.

Dr. Marshall, founder of PRL, also has an office in the L.A. area so why not make an appt. with the master himself or someone in his clinic who has been doing this stuff a long time? My suggestion is don't try to figure it out yourself. A voice on the phone, when you are really struggling, will not get you a home run.

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Cass, I just spoke to one of the top reps at PRL and he said that he never heard that one had to have their Ph balanced before doing the packs.

You misunderstood or the person on the other end was new.

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Dear Lex,

Thanks for looking into this for me. That's so sweet and caring!!

I just called again, and spoke with the person who's been helping me, and he said if I'm getting enough minerals and am working towards being more into the alkaline range, it's OK to start with the download areas.

I'm going to go slow on these and see how it goes.

I don't intend to do any of the other areas until I see a practitioner.

Back onto the phone for that....

Love,

Cass A

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I haven't been around much lately - busy busy life. My family has just finished the 5th round. I haven't been noticing much change at all. A few subtle things - my spider phobia appears to be lessening significantly which is nice [Smile]

On the other hand, my little girls - 2 and 4 have been waking in the night *alot* as in wide awake for often up to 2-3 hours. I think I may have written about this a couple months ago - it's been a long go of it.

I ordered the 3 pekana products for liver, lymph, and kidneys and they arrived today. I don't have a tester and do not have access to anyone who can do ART - I need to somehow figure out how much to give them. It seems to be pretty consistently 3am which makes me think liver. The older one has been really aggressive lately too - which is fairly normal for 4, but is feeling a bit excessive lately.

So I guess, to be clear - what I'm asking is what people who don't have access to ART testing or a bio-tensor are doing. Ideally I'd love to buy a bio tensor, but at this time I can't spare the cash. I also need to support 7 people in this, and practically it doesn't really work logistically anyway -

Soooooo any ideas for how to proceed?

At this point I'm thinking just give her half dose of the pekana products for several days - but then would that be all at once? Or one at a time?

It's confusing enough figuring it all out for me, but when it's 7 people - it's a wee bit overwhelming. Mostly it's fine - I haven't felt much going on actually.

Thanks,

Heather

PS - in case anyone has been wondering about Zombie - I haven't updated because as far as I know there's not been much if any change. Still holding her in our prayers here and hoping for the best.

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http://www.webshopemporium.com/DetoxificationLiver.html

http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/KlinghardtAutism2008Derksen.pdf

http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/AutismProtocol09.pdf

Not having heard from Zombie, I wonder if she is
aware of KPU. I have a hunch she should check that out. http://www.klinghardt.org/ning/KPU09PX.pdf
Many with chronic problems have KPU, aka www.HPUtest.com
The majority of Klinghardt patients have KPU. My husband needs four Core every day. If he misses it one day - he crashes the next. I don't need any. I did not have any food allergies per AI.
He had all major ones.

Heather, please don't give up! Wrap these bellies in an old piece of white t-shirt and castor oil; warm it; cover with seran wrap all the way around including back/kidneys. Leave on overnight or half hour. Milk thistle. Dandelion tincture. Ayush Livit 2, etc. Alternating is important.

Vernon Johnston http://phkillscancer.com/muscle_testing_-_dowsing
made one of my tensors. It is inexpensive and can be carried in the purse. I have a tensor at least in three rooms of the house, because I constantly use it - even if I want to know whether my body right now would prefer alkaline liquids to acidic liquids or the other way around.
It is amazing how this changes from hour to hour and different most mornings. If I didn't have a tensor/bobber, I would be lost. I can test instantly which organ is in stress, whether metals are blocking my husband, etc. etc. Do look into it. You will use it all your life.
I am sure if you explain to Vernon your situation, he will make you one for very little.


All take care.

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Can someone plese explain to me what this person said from the mail I sent to the Germany.

Hello,

our treatment has no effect from drugs. You can take you further. Also, pregnancy is no problem. On the contrary. There are indeed correct errors that are not even then transferred to the child.

Best regards


Heinz Grundmeyer


He said our treatment has no effect from drugs,does it mean can't take it with drug or can..??

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Feelbetter, I wrote HG that his translation does not make sense - and offered to translate short notes when he has a problem answering. I am sure he understands English to some degree, but not good enough to answer without a translating engine. If you drop him another note, maybe he will contact me.

I am sure what he means is that when on antibiotics and pharmaceuticals that are not necessary for life support, the AI therapy cannot work because the body will not respond to the testing because they put the immune system out of commission.

Further, if you do the treatment before pregnancy, the allergies/dysregulations are not transferred to the child. Allergies/dysregulations of the DNA are inherited by the children. Most babies born today have food allergies.

Take care.

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GIGI:
Thans for the explain,so you mean I can't even do the testing when Im on the antibiotic or any drugs,correct?

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Round 4 arrived yesterday. Understandably, still have a lot of chemical and energetic blockages.

New symptom however: Bubbles in my urine--not super frothy-- Should I worry or wait it out?

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Feelbetter, I will write HG and get the official answer from him. I will post when I hear.

Take care.

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Hi friends,
2 days of round 4 and I am being pummeled.
Back pain,fatigue,sadness, daytime sleeping... all mixed in with a big dose of hopelessness.

I would love to fast-forward this round.

In addition, Chlorella has started to bother my stomach. I can take 3 or 4 pills during the day, but not at night anymore.

Anyone else have this problem with chlorella?

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thejoje, some rounds can be rough. Think I remember #4 bringing a lot of emotional releases.
Maybe try taking fewer drops - 2 or 3 and see if that helps.

If I grind up my chlorella to a powder and mix a glass of water in, it doesn't bother me at all.

Bubbles in the urine happened on and off. I think I remember lightparfait writing once about a LOT of bubbles. I never had it investigated and it stopped.

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Feelbetter, the official answer from AI/HG is that you do not have to stop the abx before/when doing the test only.

Once you do the therapy, the recommendations are different.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks NanaD,
I'll start grinding tonight and see what happens.

If I take less drops, do I take them for a longer period of time?

Also, your suggestion about the minerals helped my leg cramps within just a few days.
Thanks again!

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Gigi, I am currently treating with Rife for Lyme and coinfections. I know mercury is part of the picture and I am about to start having my amalgam fillings removed.

I am considering the Regu Immun therapy, but I'm wondering about whether or not this is the right time to do it. Should it be done after all of the amalgams are removed, before they're removed, during the process, or does it matter?

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Dr. K says more chlorella is better than a few.
I cannot handle three or four but can handle 30 or 40 at a time.

Round four was miserable for me -- Round five was amazingly freeing but right after I sent in my drops many symptoms came back. This full hunter moon is a biggie --

I put my Rife machines away while on AI as the AI stirs up enough toxins.

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thejoje - ditto on the chlorella. Small amounts do not make me feel any better. Some days I test for as many as 60 (ground up of course for me).

Taking fewer drops doesn't mean you need to take them for a longer period of time. HG said somewhere "even if the information is whispered, it is still there" - - for those rough rounds.

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Lex and NanaD,
When you say that you cannot handle a few chlorella, does this mean that the few that you took gave you unpleasant symptoms?

Could you elaborate?

I tried a little Glycine last night as a binder, and did OK with it.

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Chaps,

``Gigi, I am currently treating with Rife for Lyme and coinfections. I know mercury is part of the picture and I am about to start having my amalgam fillings removed.

I am considering the Regu Immun therapy, but I'm wondering about whether or not this is the right time to do it. Should it be done after all of the amalgams are removed, before they're removed, during the process, or does it matter''

My response/question: What is your body going to do with the toxins that are set free, even if removal is done very carefully, if your body has forgotten how?

Amalgams and other toxic metals usually go together. The part that makes it all worse is the fungi and mold that these toxic metals create and attract. So on top of having to live with the possible Lyme and co-infections, you also are most likely living with the more devastating effects of fungi and mold and of course the toxic metals which caused the problems in the first place and made it possible for pathogens to take a hold. The body creates fungus, etc. in order to protect itself because the metals would kill the body. They are the cover for the metals. But the fungi and mold also are living organisms that live, poo and pee and die. So in addition to the Lyme neurotoxins and possible others (biotoxins, environmental toxins) you have to deal with a much worse condition caused by the mold and fungi.

The effects of fungi and mold are most miserable in the brain beyond coordination, dizziness, balance problems, and of course gut. They keep growing until the metals leave, the parasites leave, and are also attracting some viral stuff.
So what does that tell you? If you want to believe my own experience and that of many others you take care of the dysregulations/allergies first, and then move on to the rest. The rest is not all that easy to deal with, but a lot easier than if you keep only chasing the toxic metals around from one body compartment to the next and then still find them ten years later in another knee-joint. When they enter the brain, it is not easy to deal with at all. I hope you believe me. My husband is finally releasing toxic metals with AI and now the fungi is starting to show up. Don't blame the metals, if the symptoms get worse momentarily. Fungi and mucor are ugly and all Lyme people who have taken the AI test are allergic to many of them. The majority is cleared with the first bottle.

We learned a very hard and dreadful way what photons can do. That treatment robbed myself and my husband of many, many months of life - and to this day we are living with the repercussions. I learned quickly and posted about this, but was accused and threatened with all sorts of ugly stuff. My warning stands: don't do photons unless you know what is living in your body and be prepared that there is more that you never knew you had.

Photons and Rife and other instruments work well if done right, timed right, but be prepared for the die-off and protect yourself. The photons go anywhere without asking you whether it's alright with your body and open up areas that you may not be prepared to deal with if your immune system is still asleep and does not respond. People can really start to get sick that way.

I was originally told photons would take care of all co-infections as well as toxic metals. Naively, I believed it until I had to deal with the reality of what photons really do. Calling it borrelia-free does not mean lyme-free. Lyme always means multiple problems need fixing. Unless you do, getting well is difficult. You need solid support to test and treat.

Make sure also that you do not fall into the KPU category (many with Lyme do) which makes detoxing difficult, as does any mineral deficiency. Lots of talk on LN.

Similar problems arise when doing Rife, because again it will set deadly toxins in motion - metals, fungi, mold, parasites, viruses, etc. - and if you are allergic, your DNA/body is no longer able to regulate; your autonomic nervous system is no longer in touch with your immune system, the results will not be as you would like them.

AI does not take the place of other treatments or therapies and some people stop before or don't follow the recommendations and can't be tested for a short period of time. Knowing what I have learned over the last couple of years, when dealing with a chronic condition, I would do AI first before anthing else and then deal with the rest. Horse first, then the cart.

http://www.entgiften-statt-vergiften.com/cms/Amalgam_Teeth.120+M54a708de802.0.html#281

Take care and hope everyone has a wonderful day.

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Excellent Gigi.

thejoje - I wasn't the one who said I cannot handle just a few chlorella. Just a few don't do anything for me in terms of binding toxins. Larger amounts help. I think Lex said she can't handle small amounts but can larger amounts.

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GiGi, doesn't Dr. W in Germany cure most he works with though with the Bionic 880? It is just that his IV modalities are so effective to detox stuff?
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Hi -- I was just reading through and thejoje mentioned that glycine was a binder. What does it bind? Do I recall correctly that someone wrote that it works well on neurotoxins?
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Quote about glycine-

"Glycine is the most important rate limiting amino acid in the detoxification pathways used to eliminate solvents, PBDBs, phthalates and other chemicals which are almost always involved in ASD.

Toxins harm enzymes involved in methylation. The damage may be to the genes, the epigenome or other mechanisms. The activation and silencing of genes is dependent on methylation, the restoration of glutathione and many other issues.

To bypass the glitch, consider methylB12, folinic or methylated folic acid, Same-e and Di - or Trimethyl glycine, says Dr. K"

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Thanks Gigi.

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How to Read Hair Analysis - Doctor's Data $46.

I learned this many years ago: First one needs to look at the Essential Minerals - the copper, zinc, etc. and you can tell from there whether they show as fairly normal, moderately disturbed or very severely disturbed when they are all on the under 50percentile side of the test.

Then you check the Toxin levels (upper portion of the test). If the mineral metabolism (below) is severely disturbed and the toxic metals (mercury, lead, etc. not coming out, that means severely heavy metal toxic.

If the toxic metals (upper portion of the test) are not showing and are mostly absent or very low and the good metals are all on the left side of the test below the 50%ile it means severe toxicity levels.

A mild case of "almost-done-with-detox" is the one where the minerals look absolutely beautiful and everything is square in the middle of where it should be.

The moderate (in between) condition is when mineral disturbance is moderate and with moderate toxic metals showing.

With the hair test, you have to look at what is not there and then look at the others.
When looking at the hair test,
it is the absence of toxic metals and the severity of the disturbance of the good metals that makes the diagnosis of severe mercury and/or other metal toxicity.

If I knew how to copy my hairtest on here, I would do it. It is easier to understand if you have the test in front of you. But I am still a computer novice.

Take care.

(learned that from Dr.K. many years ago)

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Gigi

thanks for that information on how to read hair analysis.

After I sent in my sample for round six, I started to feel lousy (drops stopped). There is a lot of stress involved in getting a house ready for sale plus my mother has gone into the land of dimentia and we have to find a place for her. I lie awake worrying about her which doesn't help.

Do you find that you detox more while on the drops or after the "break in between" or does it vary? I'd be interested in hearing your experience. I had a few fabulous weeks there . . .

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Lex, as more and more of the DNA corrections are made, detoxing takes place more and more. Once most errors have been corrected, only God knows how long it takes to detox it all. My husband is putting out more and more and more, even while his minerals are not corrected yet. It looks as if the body is using some of the good stuff to help get some toxic stuff out and therefore it is difficult to bring the mineral status up. Some people do it more quickly; I did it more quickly, suspecting that because I had zero food allergies that literally destroy much of the gut functions.
My husband had all three or 4 major food problems, and that takes longer to correct especially at his age. But nevertheless even he is pouring out some nickle now, lead, etc.

I had a lot less problems because I was not allerlgic to any foods and the restoration of my good mineral levels started a long time ago when I still had Lyme. That is why I can dispose of the remaining toxic metals more quickly.

Try to forget about the break in between. That's not really indicative of anything. Detoxing happens in phases with stops in between. Thank God, it all didn't get hung up in one organ, or none of us would survive with metal toxicity.
It's slowly starting to trickle out, and it takes what it takes.

I like to see a hairtest every couple three months to keep understanding what is happening.

Be sure you have ruled out KPU. My husband still takes 4 capsules of CORE. If you zinc on hairtest is low, try to test yourself and see what you are missing. The "correcting" ingredients are listed on the Biopure website under the CORE product. If you lack any of these, even at this stage of the game you may still have a KPU problem. I take a CORE whenever I test (with tensor) to make sure I don't drop below what the body needs to detox. I am sure it takes a couple of years for the body to get over most the damage it took.

Be happy you have seen a few fabulous weeks.

Has your mother ever been tested with any of the different methods to see what she is missing?
My husband will be 85 in another few weeks and the easiest thing would have been to "find a place." I am sure he would no longer be alive in those pill-popping places.

Wishing you all the good things you need.........

Take care.

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Gigi

You said before to be careful with KPU while on AI.
I think you mentioned that you would wait . . . ???

As for my mother, I am sure she is missing a lot but I am not near her and my brother who will be closer to her thinks what I do is weird. My symptoms have gotten worse with the stress of my mother.

My mother started giving her money away to every charity or psuedo charity and I got there just in time to freeze her accounts or close the ones that were in danger of being wiped out. She can no longer reason most of the time. But when I get there in a few days, perhaps I can check out who will be looking in on her and advise them to at least give her some micro mins and electrolytes.

It's so tough to see someone you love lose their mental faculties.

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I really sympathise, Lex, as we are in the same position with my mother. She has just broken her hip and her dementia makes it especially hard for her to understand what's going on and to work at the exercise the physio has just given her.

She totally lost her grip on her alcohol intake along with the increasing dementia and was constantly falling and injuring herself after the booze, which was a terrible worry.

It IS tough and of course it is stressful, both for logistical and emotional reasons. I hope you can sort out the best situation for your mother,

Best Wishes,

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Carry what's the real rub is that medical doctors do not take elderly people's symptoms seriously. When she complained about excess gas, he told her, "I have gas, too. Everyone has gas."
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Yes, sadly, Lex. Sounds familiar to us [ie. with Lyme], doesn't it?

Good luck,

Carry

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Life is a maze . . . ing
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A friend just offered to do Bowen Therapy for me, for free - she's just learning, and needs practice patients- Does anyone know if Bowen Therapy would be ok with Allergie Immun? I've finished 5 rounds. I won't do it if it might be a problem, but if it would be complementary then I'd not turn down a chance for free body work [Smile]

Anyone?

Thanks [Smile]

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I am not very familiar with Bowen therapy, though it was very much talked about a number of years ago. So I don't understand the concept.

If the therapy releases toxins, it may be too much to handle. Depending on how much toxin you are still holding (my guess, from your posts, still quite a bit) and only having done bottle #5, I would not push it. Possibly you are still reacting to some of the chemical substances and other blockages at this early stage of AI, and it may not be quite the time to do more mobilizing.

You will probably find out quickly if you try it. From my experience, I would not do it that early. I don't think it interfers with AI, but it may mobilize too much for your body to handle.

It also depends how effective and well trained the brandnew therapist is. It is probably okay for a fairly well person to be the guinea-pig, but not if you are still under the weather a bit too much.

Best wishes!

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Sometimes free things cost a lot.
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I did have some 'free' Bowen therapy some years ago from someone also learning and wanting to practise. I was already ill then.

It is very gentle and not likely to produce dramatic reactions: infact I did not have a big reaction of any sort to it, good or bad, but of course, we are all different.

I also know someone else who is an experienced Bowen therapist and is very enthusiastic about it.

Perhaps you could try one session and then judge whether you want to continue,

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My health isn't as bad as it was right now - I've improved quite a bit [Smile] It's hard to put my finger on what - I think the brain fog has lifted quite a bit actually- that was my biggest frustration that led me to do AI. IT was quite severe and debilitating. It's so much better now - I don't often have whole days that are foggy - it's usually just if I'm tired. SO that is good [Smile]

One thing tho - I've started gaining weight. I know that some people have gained weight at the beginning - I'm getting nervous about it tho - I've gained more than 15 lbs now. This isn't normal for me at all. I'd been carrying a little extra baby weight in the last few years, but it was slowly coming off - I've not gained outside of pregnancy before, just had trouble losing it after.

I'm wondering if this is "normal" for AI? (continuing weight gain I mean) It sounded like some people gained a little in the beginning, but then leveled out and lost it later in the treatment? How long did it take until the weight left? I've never gained weight this quickly other than pregnancy - and I'm definitely not pregnant (husband had a vasectomy, and I'm having regular periods)

I'm getting more sleep in the past month after over a decade of being up at night lots with my little ones - I had thought that would help me lose weight, not add more. I've gained 10 lbs in the past month. When a friend of mine night weaned, she started losing weight right away, so it was a bummer to gain. I know our bodies are all so different, so I should know better than to have any expectations, but it's still disappointing.

I wondered if I was retaining water? My lower back started hurting more when I started AI - maybe it's kidneys?

I'm testing the pekana remedies using a pendulum, and taking them accordingly.

I'm also taking chlorella ( the good kind )

We have had quite a delay with this round, as one of my kids' drops didn't arrive with the others, and I ended up waiting to send in all our samples until his drops had arrived, to keep us all on the same schedule - it's too hard to keep track of everyone if we're on different schedules, and shipping would be a PITA. I"m feeling a bit impatient now for the next round to arrive. The last couple of rounds have been much much easier on me tho - I've hardly had any times where a nap was non-negotiable - the first 2-3 rounds had me napping almost every day, which was tricky with 5 kids. I haven't had any of the wild and wacky detox symptoms others have described either. I did laugh tho at the note that came with the 5th round that said that I was probably thinking nothing was happening right about now. I wasn't worried about it, but it was true that it did feel a bit slow. I do trust the process tho, so it's all good.

my 8 year old has been a total maniac lately tho (the whole family is doing the drops) He's been really really hyper alot, and has been a bit OCD with things like routines. I tested him for the pekana remedies today tho, and he's been really mellow all morning since then. I definitely feel a shift with the pekana remedies.

My teenager is doing really really really well - she's in a great head space / mood. Much more even keel than ever before. A lot of old resentment /anger has gone.

My 4 year old is sleeping wonderfully. Tho she complains of stomach aches fairly often, and leg cramps - tho she's growing really fast right now, so that's not a huge shock. She asks for cal/mag too.

My 2 year old is still waking in the wee hours, tho not every night. It's a bit later now too - used to be 3 am, now it's between 4 and 6 am - which is better.

My husband doesn't notice much so far on the drops, other than being able to eat some foods he couldn't before, but he's also a pretty strong healthy person.

My 10 year old - I haven't noticed much change. He's still got a pretty loud temper, and tends to be pretty unmotivated. He has a lovely side too of course - I'm talking symptoms.

I guess that's about it - this post feels a bit rambly, but I don't have time to go back and edit, so I'll leave it as is.

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Dear Skiesmama and All,

First--to Skiesmama--I have found that the most workable handling for weight problems is the concept in the Zone diet. It doesn't tell you what to eat or not eat, but rather helps you make good choices among the things you like in the right balance.

Dr. Barry Sears research on this many years ago is now being vindicated by the latest data on carbohydrates. I recommend his book, Mastering the Zone. If you want all the biological background of why it works, Enter the Zone is the book for you!

The website is enterthezone.com

An update on AI and other things going on here:

I tried the Quantum Research Labs clay on the detox key points (hands and feet) and DEFINITELY am more able to think clearly and keep on task for a useful period of time! Whoo hoo!!!

With one treatment, my eyesight changed for the better (got more clear) as I was doing it.

Thanks to Lex for recommending it and helping me to get going with it!

I am using time release B 6 now to control the nocturnal seizures, and haven't had one since I started using that every night.

I'm still doing many detox things: chlorella, BioRay NDF Plus and complementary BioRay producs, a fiber drink with Bentonite clay and pectin in it, detox footpads at night.

I just sent off my sample at the end of Round #15.

I am still taking the KPU supplements daily. I tested myself for zinc sufficiency recently--still not in the ballpark. Ugh.

Oh--I recommend the Coconut Creme from Tropical Traditions! It's 70% coconut oil, tastes GREAT!!! I eat it every morning right out of the jar with a spoon!!! Also good on toast, etc.

Best to all,

Cass A

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All nice to hear. Best wishes to all.

Take care.

P.S. If all the Europeans like us had to go thru that many bottles as most of us here, the price would have to double. There is definitely something very wrong with the way we live here and I haven't figured it all out. Lifestyle? Exposure? Foods?

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All 3 I suspect. Many European countries have banned wireless internet in schools and public libraries. Think that will ever happen here? HA.
How many countries will not buy our GMO foods?

But.... the US brings in plenty of pesticide, insecticide and chemically soaked produce.


I have wireless and shut it off at night. Even with it on I have extremely low EMF readings here in the woods.

I met some folks at a "lyme" support meeting once a long time ago. Several of the women had lyme and breast cancer. They all live within a 1/2 mile of the same cell tower.

I think the priorities are a little messed up in this country - at least the priorities of big business.

The dollar over human well-being any day - generally speaking. There are exceptions. Ray Anderson comes to mind. Was an industrial engineer and started thinking about the legacy he was leaving behind for his grandchildren by putting petroleum waste products in landfills. He has turned his "big business around". It can be done.

At any rate, AI would be worth it at twice the price.

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Who can give me their website? I want to email them.

Is it a good idea that I stop abx and do the AI treatment for a few month to clean my boday then back to abx?

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Well, I've only been to the USA once in my life, so I can't blame it for my number of rounds [currently awaiting round 12, with plenty of errors still on last evaluation]!

My lifestyle and food has been well above average, in terms of being healthy, all my life and I have never lived in a big city [except, ironically, Munich in Germany for 6 months!].

I can only think for me it must be a complex mixture of genetic predisposition and exposure.

Is anyone here still on AI therapy after 20 rounds or similar?

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Cass A, it was good to hear of your progress and especially that you have stopped having the seizures since you started the B6.
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Dear ukcarry,

Thanks for the validation! I must admit that it was a combination of factors. First, due to having kept a symptom and treatment log, I was able to figure out the feeling I got just before the seizure. This is called an "aura." Then, when awake, I'm able to give myself B 6, which turns the aura off.

Unfortunately, when I'm asleep, I can't tell that I need B 6. Ugh. So, I've been having (rarely) seizures while sleeping. We found a time release B 6 product, and I've had no recurrence of seizures since I've been taking it--a bit over a month.

However, I have in the past had a year with only one seizure episode, so I've been searching my diaries to find out what had changed recently, as I've had seizures 5 times this year! And, they've been occurring closer together!

In doing more research here on Lymenet, I found that I was taking B 12 in the past when I had no seizures for 10-11 months, and I had recently stopped taking any.

So, I started up with B 12 again last night.

The other hopeful part is that I've had much fewer of the "aura" occurrences since starting with the B 6 time release. And, also, doing the QRL clay packs, etc., as I reported in my most recent post.

As part of my research here on Lymenet, I found an article that Keebler had posted about alternative treatments for seizures that talks extensively about Vitamin B 6-dependent seizures!!! These apparently show up usually in newborns--B 6 turns off the seizures immediately! And, the article discusses the use of B 6 in adults with seizures, also.

Again and again, I am soooo very grateful for the existence of Lymenet!!!!!!!

Best to you all, my friends!

Love,

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That's most interesting, Cass A and thank you for the explanation. I hope the combination of B12 and Time release B6 keeps the seizures away for good now [and good news: they're not even expensive supplements!],

all the best,

Carry

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feelbetter - their website is www.allergie-immun.de
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Has anyone had warts come up during AI?

I've always had plantar warts on my feet since I was a little girl - tons and tons actually, they would come and go tho. I've had periods as an adult where there were none, but right now I have quite a few.

In the past few months tho since starting AI everyone in the whole family is just busting with warts! This morning I was looking at my 4 year old's foot as she had a small cut, and discovered that both of her feet are *covered* in plantars warts! I didn't count, but I'm going ot guess that there are at least 20 on each foot! She also has regular warts on her hands. My boys have them in weird places, like on a knee, or the top of the foot.

I wondered if this was a detox of sorts - warts are viral right? Could it be the virus leaving their body?

Just curious if anyone else has experience this - I know that weird skin stuff is common - I just haven't heard any mention of warts.

Heather

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Heather - I used to have 4 REALLY painful plantar warts. All but one has gone. I thought they were more of a fungal thing than viral but I'm not really sure.

Does sound something is leaving.

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Since round 1 of the AI, the treatment totally cured my decades-old problem of constipation.

Lately, however, I have been adding 1-2 more mineral pills per day to my regime (Comprehensive Minerals by CRL), and have noticed that the constipation is becomming an issue again.

When I go off the minerals, all is well.

I thought that maybe the calcium was the culprit, but there is a 1 to 1 ratio of calcium to Mg in these minerals, and they are at a pretty low dosage -- 250mg of each.

There are also about 10 other minerals in each pill - all at very low doses.

Does anyone have a similar issue?

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Family breaking out in warts -- probably what is happening are generations of viral infections finally getting an outlet.
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Please read this carefully.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2STm00DZCxEJ:www.mercuryexposure.org/index.php%3Farticle_id%3D66+connection+between+viral+fungal+bacterial+and+toxic+metal+klin ghardt&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Once the metals are starting to be mobilized when the immune system is waking up, it is very common that the other "occupants" are starting to show up. We are already deep into supporting fungal detox which was brought about by the metal dumping. AI turned the immune system on and this is part of the consequences of the body now cleaning house. But you need to support it.

Binders binders binders - and if you can learn to test or find someone who can test you, it helps a lot.

If you are not done with the AI, changes happen, sometimes better, sometimes symptom gone and then returning, that is not seldom. There are numerous fillers in supplements that are not specifically identified and that may cause a reaction of some sort. If you have really been sick for some time, it will take a lot more rounds before all can be found and corrected.

Try to go on their Forum and translate some of the write-ins from people who are doing the therapy or translate some of the AI Team answers.
It helps to understand the therapy better.

Take care.

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Gigi, what is the process for the Regu-Immune therapy? The website doesn't seem to explain it very well. From what I gather, you order the test and the therapy on the website, then they send you a test kit with which you send them some blood and/or saliva. According to the test results, they send you some drops. How does it work from there? I've read on this thread that there are several rounds of drops required. How does that work? Are you tested after each round to determine the next round?

What about support from the provider? How are you guided through the process? Is there someone to whom questions can be directed? Who provides advice such as that which you provided in your previous post about binders, detoxing, etc.? How is your progress monitored?

I want to undergo this therapy, but I'm concerned about the process being so cumbersome due to language and cultural barriers, distance, time zones, support issues, general lack of communication, etc., that it negates its entire value. International telephone calls are very expensive. Is there an American rep?

Am I getting concerned over nothing? How does the whole thing work?

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Should we completely done all the abx or herb treatment and then go to AI drop or stop abx or herb for a while then do the AI and go back?
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I don't believe he recommends abx unless there is an acute infection or life threatening situation. Two or three posts up - Gigi wrote this and it is a good idea:

"Try to go on their Forum and translate some of the write-ins from people who are doing the therapy or translate some of the AI Team answers.
It helps to understand the therapy better."

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Chaps, if you take the time to read portions of this thread, you will find many of the answers. Look at their list of participating therapists/ND's/ MD's - maybe you will find someone there to answer your questions. Other than that I still have not managed to get through all the different links on the AI website. The info is endless. Everyone here will help sharing some of their experience, but you will still have to do some of your own legwork. If you find a practitioner who uses this therapy in practice, I don't think they would guide you through the therapy free of charge. So it is a good idea to learn some of the basics of the detox that is bound to start once the immune system is back in charge.

To answer Feelbetter: I don't think you will be fully successful with abx and/or herbs, unless you eliminate the dysregulations/allergies that are holding most people back from actually getting better or well.

One should really take the time to read portions of this thread and/or translate some of the Forum, the website info, etc.

Take care and hope everyone is making good progress. The longer you have been ill, the longer it takes on AI. The best part is that the price for the therapy stays the same. All you have to do is learn to deal with it, learn to support detoxing, and I for one am still soooooo
grateful that this therapy exists at all.

Take care again.

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Thanks for your response.

The entire thread is so vast I was hoping to get a simplified assessment from a usability standpoint.

It seems from what I've read thus far that it's a real pain-in-the-butt with the language barrier, the lack of accessibility, and all the guesswork, but maybe worth the trouble?

It's really puzzling that this organization doesn't have an English-speaking liaison for international (American) customers in light of the fact that a high percentage of people in Germany speak English.

Sorry, I know it's not your fault. I'm just being whiny today, it's one of those days.

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