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Lex
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Gigi,

I have been thinking about you and your husband. Sending you both good vibes.

I got on the Biltricide today.

GiGi, I am going to memorize your words in my head one of these days. Every post is such a precious gem.

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Lex and gigi:

I was only making a joke with the Sprio Agnew thing. That's why I put the laughing emoticon there.

Cheeeez! Everyone's so serious around here.

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Has anyone tried the Byron White lyme remedies? I have been hearing good things.

Also wanted to ask GiGi if she has ever used thalamus to relieve head congestion.

Wishing you all a peaceful weekend.

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My LLND had me take the A-Bab one before I started on Mepron. He said it made the transition to Mepron easier to take. I did take it for a few weeks, and then was on Mepron/Zith for about 9 months.

My LLND also recommends A-L, for Lyme. I took that for some time.

I took A-Bart for awhile, but nothing happened at all with it.

I haven't been taking any of these while doing Allergie-Immun drops. My husband, who also tests positive for Lyme, takes A-L.

No big reaction, either positive or negative.

Best,

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No, Lex, I have not used thalamus. Test for lungworm - it is definitely causing congestion big time. Mold is a problem with many and it can cause so many different problems, it is frightening. Even if it does not test early, it seems to be testing energetically after some other layers have been lifted. Dr. K. alerted me to read Shoemakers Mold Survivor. Since my husband is on the amino acid IV's, the neuro symptoms are really popping up severely and besides the metals that I find almost daily, I now find mold. Do some googling for mold symptoms - it's scary. It is his op that mold is undertreated -- I remember him saying that several years ago. Now I find it testing almost daily. Tons of chlorella, 30-40 tabl. 3x a day. That of course delivers a lot of perfect nutrition. Also SSKI nebulized which I also used when treating lungworm.

So I would check lungworm (varestrongylus klapowi) which can cause a bundle of problems looking like pneumonia - and definitely pay attention to mold. Definitely both are common with Lyme and without Lyme.

I have known the person producing the BWhite remedies for at least 10plus years and cannot get excited about him or his products. But that is me.

If anyone still has symptoms of various kind, don't hang your hat on Lyme. I think many people are barking up the wrong tree and it is important to avoid tunnel vision. Many people have long taken care of Lyme, but are not paying attention to the other miserables causing identical symptoms, but are not Lyme & Co. caused.
I know it is easy to develop sort of a phobia about Lyme and this can become a problem. This is really a problem with Babesia - just compare symptoms - and how many people are chasing Babesia to the ultimo while the symptoms are caused by different invaders.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3Ae8C8qiBNUJ:rantery.awardspace.com/black-mold-toxic-stachybotrys-mycotoxins.html+mold+symptoms+in+humans+and+black+mold&cd=1&h l=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

I think we need to keep an open mind looking more elsewhere than Lyme and the usual -

Wishing good things for all!

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Gigi, thanks again. Where did you get your lung worm vial?You give us all something to think about. Stepping out of the box . . .

Blessings to you and your husband and all of those who are seeking the answers,

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PS, Gigi,

what remedies are used for Lung Worm?

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Dear Gigi,

Thanks for your responses and for keeping this thread going!

I have done anti-parasite work several times already, including Humaworm twice, a month of Alinia, and some other anti-parasite stuff. I plan to do more anti-parasite stuff starting again next week.

Thanks for your cautions.

Best,

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I got the lungworm test vial from several people. But you can easily get it from www.ergopathics.com

The lungworm protocol was posted in detail. Pull up some threads from one of the moms who treat their kids, poster's name starts with Mom......
It is a 6week protocol of Ivermectin, Pyrantel pamoate, Albenza, Alinia. I have the details if needed. It is done in combination with nebulizing of SSKI.

If you still have neuro problems after all this, investigate MOLD. You may not see it in your house and you may not smell it, but check it.

From what I learned, Humaworm is insufficient for a serious parasite problem.Especially if you waited years and years to do this type of colon cleansing.

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Lex, I forgot - yes I used Thalamus. A homeopathic vial applied to my husband's body with green laser sweeps. I got that from a German Klinghardt practitioners - called Regenersen. Not sure if it is available here. I use it on him to sweep whenever he energetically tests for it.
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Weird results from AI.

AI sent me a letter saying they can find no more disregulations and have shown me the graphs again. This will be the third time they have told me this. The numbers are exactly the same in every category as they were in August despite having done another round. Doesn't make sense. If AI keeps working the numbers should be higher. Plus one number was in the red last time and the exact same number is now in the yellow.

Still have 8 yellows out of the 19 categories. The rest are green.

Thoughts?

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The body will keep regulating for many months to come. All does not happen with every drop you take. Detoxing the problem areas can take many months. AI is not a detox program. Rather it simply corrects the information in your DNA, and when the body has the correct information, it can then get active and do what it has not been able to do probably for years. This is very clear once you spend some time and read the website and learn to understand that the human body is a dynamic system -- one positive creates another positive, and another positive, until finally it has regained total function again. The worm had a lot of time to work through many layers before it got to the core and healing takes time.

If you still face ongoing exposures that do not contribute to healing but go against it, you may have to look into that and see if you need to make changes. I have been posting about some of these constantly.

We have found if the mineral and amino acid levels are still deficient, that would make any detoxin nearly impossible until you have been able to build them up. We have to remember that a lot went wrong with absorption due to food allergies if you had these. Leaky gut is not repaired overnight. Toxic metals take years to leave, and if parasites have not been dealt with,
they (metals, etc.) are locked up with some of them.

It's difficult to understand - but AI is not like taken a few aspirin and then all is well. It is a slow and careful undoing of mechanisms causing damage by improper treatments, medicines, lifestyle. Maybe finding out what you are lacking to improve more quickly will help.

Take care.

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I understand that AI does not make one well. I have read their site many times and I lead a very healthy lifestyle.

I am detoxing like crazy--lots of metals flowing. My minerals and amino acids test fine.

Have done parasite cleansing. My hosue has been mold tested and is fine. No bad fungi in my body, either.

I just figured the numbers would change and I still don't understand why the same number in August was in the red zone and now that same number is suddenly in the yellow zone. If the numerical value did not change, neither should the color.

My health is constantly improving--just didn't quite understand the AI results, but I will just not worry about it and go on with living and getting healthier.

Thanks.

Hiker53

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Gigi -

I'm still not sure if you received my e-mail which you had asked me to send but I know you are busy healing your husband so no need to contact HG at this point as you had kindly offered.

HG recently responded to me and I think this time he finally understands that we are starting over with all three of us after this fiasco with the sample mix up. He asked me to send new samples so that is a good sign.

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Hiker,

That's great you have so many greens and that your health is constantly improving. I guess it sounds like you can still have some yellows but they find no more disregulations...so I guess the yellows are caused by something else rather than a disregulation.

I agree that is very odd that the number stayed the same and sounds like a typo or something to me.

I hope my boys and I will be in your spot soon!

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Tickbattler,

My point is that in August of 2010 I had the exact same numbers in every category as I do now and was declared well, yet still had some areas in the yellow. In January they found more problems and I did another round and now they say I am fine. Every number stayed the same--so that is a lot of typos [Eek!]

How can the same number mean red in August and now mean yellow? Doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I am not going to worry about it--life is too short for that. Hope your family is blessed with good health soon.

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Dear Friends,

Yesterday, I got my "end of treatment" report from Allergie-Immun. I've kind of been expecting this for the past couple of months, even though I still have some symptoms that are pretty debilitating. Others, like chronic low body temperature, are just indicators of deeper problems that haven't yet resolved.

However, I'm concentrating on binders now and will be doing some more parasite treatment in the very near future.

After that......

Best,

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Tickbattler, I talked with HG and his wife, both of them on two difference occasions several days ago. In general, they both commented that a mix-up as you described can technically not happen with the way their system works. I didn't debate the issue, because I did not understand the mix-up as you described it. But hope it will turn out satisfactorily for you this time.

I hope you will send the pages in separately for each member to be tested. Just as you sent it to me. Then there will be no chance for confusion.

I will alert them to e-mail me if they do not understand. I am sure all will be okay.

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Again, getting to the point where AI cannot find at the present time any dysregulations, does not mean you are "fine" or totally well or you should not have any more symptoms at all.

It may take time for the body to restructure itself and slowly correct all. The longer you have lived with dysregulations, the longer it will take after they are done. If I remember, if you have you have been living with disruptions for ten years, it can take a year of restructuring.

You should feel better, but the total results will take time.

New exposures the body can't handle, that's another story.

Take care. Off to a long amino IV with my husband. Malabsorption by any cause leaves marks that take a long time to correct.

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As a friend who has long completed AI recently told me, once the AI drops aren't needed, then the fun begins and I can attest to that. This is not for sissies. You don't finish the drops and all of a sudden you're home free. That's when the work begins. We all need to learn to test ourselves because no practitioner can be there for us 24/7.
We walk out of their office and things have already shifted.

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Here is the Lungworm protocol (Varestrongylus Klapowi)

First 2 weeks:

Ivermectin 12 mg 4 times per day for 14 days.
Pyrantel pamoate 1000 mg once per day at bedtime for 14 days

Second 2 weeks:

Albenza 400 mg twice daily for 14 days.

Third 2 weeks:

Alinia 1000 mg twice daily with meals for 14 days

Get the first two at a compounding pharmacy (check prices, they differ greatly)
The last two are conventional.

Protocol may have to be repeated with some or all 4 meds. Testing is important. After this 6 week protocol directed at Lungworm, when parasites (DVD) test, I test and use whichever one tests.

Once you are dealing with parasites, watch out for metal releases, fungi, etc., and treat with supporting meds. I posted a number of them and their use a few days ago on LN.


Do treat parasites (mold,
fungi, are all in this category, and they make up a huge part of Lyme. When talking parasites, don't think or expect worms. Babesia is also a parasite.

Good luck.

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Here is the Lungworm protocol (Varestrongylus Klapowi)

First 2 weeks:

Ivermectin 12 mg 4 times per day for 14 days.
Pyrantel pamoate 1000 mg once per day at bedtime for 14 days

Second 2 weeks:

Albenza 400 mg twice daily for 14 days.

Third 2 weeks:

Alinia 1000 mg twice daily with meals for 14 days

Get the first two at a compounding pharmacy (check prices, they differ greatly)
The last two are conventional.

Protocol may have to be repeated with some or all 4 meds. Testing is important. After this 6 week protocol directed at Lungworm, when parasites (DVD) test, I test and use whichever one tests.

Once you are dealing with parasites, watch out for metal releases, fungi, etc., and treat with supporting meds. I posted a number of them and their use a few days ago on LN.


Do treat parasites (mold,
fungi, are all in this category, and they make up a huge part of Lyme. When talking parasites, don't think or expect worms. Babesia is also a parasite.

Good luck.

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Can anyone remember the probiotic called Muttiflor or something, I tried a search but came up with nothing. You get it in Germany so I might as well get it while I can

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Hi Mati, I think the one you mean is Mutaflor,


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Great thanks!
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Dear Friends,

I have now tried two MDs to get the prescriptions for the Lungworm protocol, and both have refused, citing possible serious adverse reactions.

Ugh.

Well, a holding action now until I can find someone who will prescribe them.

Best,

Cass A

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How many folks are still actively taking AI? Haven't seen posts in a long while!
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I'm waiting for round 3. Yes, haven't seen posts in a while. Would be nice to see how others are coming along.

I'm having dehydration issues and hope this is something AI can correct. (Recent bloodwork shows I am missing that ADH anti-diuretic hormone). I pray AI can assist in this area. How else can you get rid of the junk when you are dehydrated and dry?

Best wishes to all.

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Do the rehydration cocktail I have posted on this thread and elsewhere. It is extremely important. Simple to make. and until the hormone receptor sites are cleared of toxins, which takes a long time, you will need to support yourself with rehydrating. Remember AI only resets the switches. The rest is then up to the body to correct. And it takes several years. But it gets corrected. I have not found any other means to detox as I do now after doing AI. I tried to detox under the best guidance of Dr. K., but it did not work as easy and successfully as I do now.

If you have not treated parasites, all bets are off. It clearly was spelled out this last weekend during the Dr.K. conference, by him and his speakers, parasites are numero uno and Lyme is actially a side event taking second or lesser place until you take care and eliminate the
parasite load.

Read this and weep - http://www.shanti.com.au/body/parasites.htm#PARASITE

If you can't find a doctor outside the box, keep looking for one that will.

Please do pay attention to parasites.

Take care.

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I just had a ton of tests done. Metals are way, way down. Amino acids and minerals look good.

I have not done a lot about the metals. Binders, chlorella and some zeolite here and there. They have gotten lower and lower so it has to be the AI showing the body that the metals don't belong there.

I also had an attached tick about a month ago. I sent it to Mr. G and he said he found nothing in me that was in the tick. He did find some more chemicals (no surprise there) so..... I am back on the drops.

My doc in WA also confirmed that she found no old or new lyme showing up.

I will be interested to see how long I will be on the drops this time. It has been pleasant being back on them. No difficulty to report.

For as long as it takes and whatever discomfort comes and goes. It works. Parasites never showed up for me before. Enough of the load has dropped so now they are showing their lovely selves and I am treating.

The drops do keep working for a long time.

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I'm still here - just haven't had anything to say. I'm about to send in another sample for those in my family that were told they were done - it's been 3 months, so I figure I'll just send them in to be sure. I think that at the very least, my son needs some more rounds.

I'm having a rough time - went to the city for a mama break for a week (my first solo trip on over a decade) I had too much exposure to chemicals while there - fabric softener mainly, and it triggered vertigo that still hasn't left 10+ days later. I seem to be reacting more again, to things that I was doing fine with before the trip. I'm upping organ support and binders, but mainly it seems that being outside all day yesterday brought the most relief. I guess it will take time for my body to calm down again from this revved up reacting state.

One cool thing tho, is that my husband's hair is growing back - he's been balding for years now. He has a 2 inch patch on top that is noticeably thicker and darker. He has also gained 10 lbs, which has never happened in the 11 years we've been together. He's 6 feet tall, and until now rarely went above 130 lbs. I think he's at 141 right now. His digestion is better. He's not reacting to foods that he used to react to. OF everyone in the family he is the one whose had the most noticeable changes. HE was also the healthiest starting out tho, so it's not really a surprise. I've never been well, so I'm assuming it'll take much much longer for me.

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Vrey nice to hear how people are and especially, Nandubo, that Herr G believes that the tick was not infected [or else you were able to deflect it].

I completed round 11 a month ago, but have not sent my saliva off yet because I have had a scare, with tests showing blood in stools [my father died following colon cancer and my mother had many polyps with her coeliac disease] and then, over a month ago now, my stomach distended suddenly, with pain and nausea [realised thatI had had the latter for a few months] and hasn't gone down since.

I have recently had a colonoscopy [clear!] and am waiting to hear about tis week's CT Scan.

I am intending to send off the next sample soon though!

Best Wishes to all,


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A close relative of mine has a condition called thrombocytopenia. It's a condition where the immune system starts attacking blood platelets, reducing them to life-threatening levels.

The medical treatments for this condition consist of immune inhibitors, such as prednisone. In extreme cases, they even remove the spleen. Talk about robbing Peter to pay Paul! A classic case of treating the symptom rather than the cause.

It's obviously a case of autoimmunity and I wonder if AI can somehow correct whatever it is that causes this condition?

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AI does not look for individual conditions. It aims to correct all the errors in all layers (onion) to eventually put the system back on line doing what it should have been doing all along. The longer you put it off, the longer your "wagon" is running in the wrong direction, erring here and there accomplishing little if anything.

Please read more of this thread to learn to understand how AI works. Read their website in English. Read some of the links on their website.
There is no shortcut to getting well.

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I've read enough to know theoretically how AI works.

I'm just thinking that since the AI therapy is called "REGU-IMMUNE" therapy, the prefix "REGU" to me, means "regulate."

To my understanding, an unregulated immune system is one that operates somewhat out-of-control, attacking things vigourously that it shouldn't attack and not having enough energy to attack the things that it should, and in some cases like with mercury, it stops attacking or trying to excrete mercury.

Since AI is purported to correct DNA "dysREGulations" and allergies, I'm thinking that this kind of action might have an indirect impact or interrelationship with other operations of the immune system that have gone cah-cah.

So I understand that the creators of AI can not claim that will represent a "cure" for a particular condition. I'm just hopeful that correcting other dysregulations might have an overall regulating effect that might influence this other condition.

Thrombocytopenia in children often goes away on its own, suggesting that as a child's immune system develops, it corrects this condition by itself relatively quickly.

In older people, thrombocytopenia typically shows up in people who have had chemotherapy, but can show up without the chemo too, which is the case with my relative. In adults it can correct itself over time. Some people take longer than others. In most cases it takes about a year, but in extreme cases, it can take as long as 6 years.

The trouble is that even with therapy, if the person is exposed to the flu or a cold, the immune system will rev up and the thrombocytopenia will start killing too many platelets. They can then have a stroke, heart attack, or bleed to death, so it's not a safe thing to have for that period of time while you're waiting for it to correct itself.

Anyway I was just being hopeful that AI might be able to help this condition. Looks like it's anybody's guess.

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I had reported extreme motion sickness in one of my daughters a while back. Here's a very cool update: her doc put her on a round of Diflucan after finding a yeast infection via ART testing. After a month of the Rx, an interesting side benefit occured -- NO MORE MOTION SICKNESS!!!

She has been on 5 rounds of AI and I do believe that it was the drops that helped her body to recognize that the yeast was the invader, thus making the work of the Diflucan easy and effective.

She had been suffering with motion sickness for over a decade--it got worse with time, very difficult to travel even a few minutes away. Doc now has her on an herbal to take a break from the Rx.

Breakthroughs are slow for some, but sure.

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chaps, I remember Dr. K. talking about thrombo, and know that metals are involved in that problems. Google it with his name and see what you find.

Metal toxicity is at the base of literally most problems and that is why people who act like they never heard about it eventually run into problems.
Destroying the body gradually with abx is insane.

Yes, dysregulations aka as certain allergies is when my body got lost once making the wrong turn, tried anaother turn, wrong again, and then never found its way back to doing what is necessary --- regulate all functions! Lost in the jungle - our meridians acting like a hundred christmas light strings all wrapped up in a chaotic ball somewhere in the midst of it a few lights went out wiping out whole chains....... I know you get the picture.

AI is the only way I found to fix it. It takes understanding and working in the right direction knowing what is happening as things unwind. It helps to have someone to energy test or, best yet, learn it yourself to figure out the proper support.

All is work and learning.


thejoje, sounds good. Watch out for some metals to surface somewhere along the line as she frees herself of mucor. Fungi is usually connected to toxic metals. But easy to work with once the body starts to eliminate them. Watch for mold.

There was a lot of discussion at last week's Dr.K. conference. Often fungi and mold are due to our plastic wrapped buildings/homes, building codes, etc. I have been trying to figure out the reason why American clients of AI take so much longer to clear the allergies when compared to the Europeans who are often done with 6 or 8 and thereabouts bottles.

It's great that she is getting along.

Take care.

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quote:
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Often fungi and mold are due to our plastic wrapped buildings/homes, building codes, etc.

A guy I met who does mold remediation for a living would agree with you on this. I live in a 95 year old house with little insulation. He told me older homes were designed for circulation, not to be airtight. My husband and he would both agree that adding insulation to our old house would be a mistake.

My husband sells building materials and does a lot of cold storage work. When you have refrigeration, vapor barriers are important. When you have coldness (even like a/c), it tends to have condensation like a glass of ice tea on a hot day. That water goes somewhere, and if done improperly, will cause mold growth even without a water leak.

Same concept with beds. That is why they have to use so many chemicals in Select Comfort beds, because it's a plastic bag conducive to mold. The latex beds like the ones at the guest house in Dobel (and like mine), have wood slats, the covers are meant to be folded during the day rather than covering the bed, and they have good circulation to address the sweat put off at night.

Air circulation prevents mold growth by preventing lingering moisture.

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sixgoofykids - Per your request on the other thread, I'll try to state as much as I can in this post, but might be called away and have to finish tomorrow...

Underwent abx tx for Lyme & cos and was in remission for a number of years. Started PSP tx in June of 2009. I felt pretty good the first 7 or 8 rounds; improvements in food allergies, etc. Appendix ruptured in late Oct. 2009 & I was hospitalized. Continued PSP upon release from hosp. and by Jan. 2010 I felt terrible. Had my amalgams removed in Feb. 2010, still felt terrible... Chronic fatigue, sleep disorders, rashes, sores in mouth, short of breath, bowel sx's, weight gain, etc. Some myoclonus as I used to get with active Lyme. I also have a major mycoplasma infection (7 times normal) that strangely didn't register on tests all the while I was tx for Lyme.

Use all the support w/PSP, incl. mineral replacement, electrolytes, adrenal support, vits. B&C (whole vits), trans-derm Mg and some binders.

Finished PSP in Nov. 2010 and have had NO IMPROVEMENTS. Sx's come and go but still feel very, very tired and quality of life sucks.

I've no doubt that many toxins are draining and will take many more months to recover. Bear in mind that I felt good during the early rounds, just as many are reporting right now. At this point in time, I wish I had never done PSP therapy, but will give it the year that I said I would and report later on progress, or lack thereof.

What concerns me is the mycoplasma infection. Might have to go back on abx to clear it up; not a welcome development at all.

For those just starting PSP, it might actually be to your benefit to be 'resting' a month or more between rounds. Consider that we who undertook the therapy early on got our subsequent rounds within 2 weeks of the preceeding round, it might be that it caused too much release at once.

To those who are thinking of starting PSP, or are in very early rounds, please be prepared for a journey of 2 to 3 years.

As for others who feel as bad as I do, they won't post. Frankly, it would serve everyone if they grew some b@11s.

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If you have questions for me and want to post them here, I will check back and answer as best as I can.

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Hi everyone!

I have not posted in a long time as our family all went on a round of abx for infections in the lung of some sort and then I have had surgery.

However, I sent in our samples in March as well as our postage money via PayPal. However 3 weeks ago I received a letter in the mail saying that he thinks my daughter is cleared (I don't think so because she still gets excema after eating certain foods) so I know he received the samples.

Then I emailed 2 weeks ago with a German translation included asking where our drops were and I have yet to receive a reply.

Normally he always replied.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Thanks!

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Here's some more complete info for you:

Fungal issues ARE major, as is said in earlier posts on this thread! You can believe it! Keep in mind that I felt good in earlier rounds, but as I got into the last few rounds, intestinal fungus, fungus on skin... Fungus everywhere.

There are lots of suggestions as to how combat fungus, but I've got to say that the lady who posted previously about her daughter being rx'd Fluconazole has the most definitive answer. My doc just gave me a script and I'll be eating the little orange pills (100mg) for a couple of weeks.

PLEASE do not try to fight fungus by taking acidophilus or eating yogurt; you're feeding the bad fungus and nothing is getting through to the good microbes. You'll have to destroy the baddies first and then incorporate acidolphilus/yog back into the diet - slowly. Diet is all important; sugar/starches should be much reduced and very little, if any, milk products.

For more info on fungus and some good products at a decent price, try:

www.worldhealthmall.com

I don't take Syclovir, but do use the minerals, etc.

Also, my skin is bone dry. Yes, I do coconut oil, olive oil...every kind of oil, plus topical moisturizers. My skin condition might also be attributable to my age (almost 60). The only relief I get is to scrub (gently) the top, cracked layer of skin off and moisturize the new, fresh layers.

My best to all who are using PSP. Get well soon. Those who want to discuss various products/options can email me at:

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Have a great summer! Thank goodness I'll be in Alaska and escape the Texas heat!

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Ping

I have also heard from several others that the therapy did not work, but they are reluctant to post here for the same reason you mentioned. Since I am not very active here, I would guess that the people I know who are not posting are differnt from those you know. That and the lack of disclosure regarding this therapy is some to think about. I'm really happy for all those for whom this therapy worked, but full disclosure and a balanced view should be presented.

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I found that when releasing metals that taking saccharomyces boulardii really helped. This healthy yeast competes with the bad yeast and as the bad yeast release their metals and die off there is the good yeast to take their place.

At the moment it seems I don't need S.b.any more, but I am still detoxing metals and have done so for about a year.

Ping is correct in saying that if you start AI you may be in for a long ride. I often wonder where I would be in my health journey if I had not done AI. Would I be better, worse, or the same? I have gotten the "all clear" three times now and I doubt I will ever submit another sample.

I still think there comes a point when the body should be well enough that you don't need AI drops. When well, the body should be able to handle a small load of toxins, metals, and even a few parasites.

Nanadubo--I am really surprised after all of this time that you have to go back on the drops and I am wondering if that will always be the case--that periodic checks will result in showing more chemicals.

Sixgoofy--totally agree with you about "tight houses" and too much insulation. I'd rather lose a little heat in the winter than be "closed" in too much. Also agree about the bedding and now I have a great excuse for not making my bed up tightly like I was taught to as a child! [Big Grin]

Anyone know how LP is doing?

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I've taken a little break from the drops, because I am doing Byron White's Mycoplasma drops. I didn't want to confuse issues, especially since I overload easily and need to try one thing at a time at first.

The BW drops have helped tremendously with the Mycoplasma. I am taking a very tiny amount every other day. It kicks my behind the day after I take it and then I feel so much better. My joints aren't nearly as bad as they were and I seem to be a bit more resilient.

As I titrate up on the BW drops and reach a good point, I will go back to AI drops. I am glad for the Myco response easing up so much of my discomfort. I'd contracted Myco Pneumonia in October of last year and I feel that it is truly being addressed.

Who knows which turn the path will take next....

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http://allergie-immun.de/Englisch/allergietherapy.html

This is the perfect explanation of Allergie Immun. I had found this article a long time ago, but failed to post it.

I understood the principle, but was never quite able to put it into my own words. This article explains the differences well --- the bio-energetic system vs. the bio-chemical system of our body.

Take care.

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I asked this question on another thread, didn't see an answer there, so I'll ask it again:

Claims have been made that AI clears food allergies by fixing DNA dysregulations.

My question was based on the premise that most of the food allergies experienced by people with multiple toxicity syndrome are caused by leaky gut, not by DNA dysregulations.

Given this, it seems illogical and impossible for AI to fix the food allergies caused by leaky gut. My contention is that the avoidance and elimination diet is the only way to clear these, followed up by supplemenation and diet to heal the gut.

What say?

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It is a good question, Chaps, but one that I don't feel confident about answering!

Leaky gut is a thorny issue: I sometimes feel that, as long as there are microbial issues, there is little point expecting the gut lining to heal properly, even with dietary manipulation, glutamine, slippery elm etc etc.

Perhaps other have a clear line on this?


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Leaky gut is produced by neurotoxins. The major ones are toxic heavy metals. Remove them and the leaky gut will have a chance to heal. If you are unable to release toxic metals as many Lymies are, AI will instantly with the first bottle correct the metal allergy problem. Then you can go on healing the gut and continue to get rid of the remaining dysregulations aka allergies.

You will need to remove the cause to eliminate the symptoms. Leaky gut is a symptom causing many problems until you remove the cause, i.e. the neurotoxins. Scroll down to leaky gut ....
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-43z9zQ53vgJ:www.healingcancernaturally.com/klinghardt-heavymetalchelation.html+klinghardt+leaky+gut&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&s ource=www.google.com

Since the condition of KPU is also a hindrance in getting rid of toxic metals, you should rule that out or in. Replacing the missing minerals, such as CORE, which causes KPU secondarily, primarily because of the malabsorption caused by leaky gut, will also aid in detoxing the metals.

It is all a chain reaction that needs to be interrupted at the source, eliminate allergies, correct possible KPU, and getting rid of the metals.

The microbes will also losing their safe house once the metals are starting to leave.

Leaky gut leads to leaky brain and you have got to put the stop to it by starting to detox heavy metals. Not the other way around. Whoever posted this nonsense about what should be first needs to get better information.

If the information in the DNA is incorrect, all the dietary manipulation will hardly bring any permanent results. The body works first with the correct "information"; biochemical events are secondary. If the base information is wrong, the body cannot be manipulated no matter how hard you try.

We know from HG that even celiac people can eat again all they want when it comes to grain and gluten as they start being able to produce the enzymes to metabolize.

The word "leaky" tells us enough: the holes need to be healed, and that happens, but it takes time. The effects of the metals being released is evident very early because the major corrections are made with the first bottle that you take for 14 days. Then toxins start flowing and I believe anyone can understand that this is a gradual process and has to be a gradual process, because the organs will need to deal with all of it, and you need to give the proper support with binders and organ support. All this has been discussed in this thread a hundred times over.

That people don't feel super superb every day is a natural. As Dr. K. told me a thousand times, "the only way out of this is the way through". You need to have the patience and learn to roll with it and give all the support that has been so generously offered by everyone here.

Take care.

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And don't forget the parasites, because they are hanging on to the metals also!

We are dealing with one ecosystem run by very smart microorganisms.

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Tried to address this on the other thread but guess I didn't answer your question chaps.

I know your thoughts are that leaky gut causes food allergies. I believe that we are born with them (inherited) and that often we are not aware of them UNTIL leaky gut develops. Then we become quite aware of them.

So for all the reasons we get leaky gut that Gigi mentioned above, to me it makes sense to address those issues. Maybe once the gut is no longer being assaulted, it can heal. Given a chance our smart bodies can remember what to do and what order to do it in.

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