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psano2
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I broke a filling yesterday and just came back from having the dentist replace my filling. I had an interesting reaction within minutes of being injected just under the right side of the nose with the anesthetic, prolocaine (without epi). My eyes started drooping badly, with my left eye closing completely. This is my typical herx, although when the left eye closes completely, it's a really strong herx.

It's wearing off slowly, but still very noticeable 3 hours later. I didn't receive any special antibiotics for the dental work, and actually hadn't taken most of my antibiotics for the day yet. Plus, my current antbiotic regimen hasn't made me herx this strongly, so then I wondered how the prolocaine injection would have done that?

I did a little search on it, and apparently, it can sometimes contain sulfites, so do you think that's what might have caused it?

I thought I was allergic to sulfas, but I haven't had any allergic reaction to anything today.

Thoughts, anyone?

Patti

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Sounds like the anesthetic was deposited very closely to where the nerve lies.

It sounds coincidental to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by carly:
[QB] Sounds like the anesthetic was deposited very closely to where the nerve lies.

I agree.

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Sulfa drugs don't act on Bb.
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But if the injection is on the right side, it's not logical that the problem would be worse on the left side.

Sulfas do act on the co's though.

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I have been using procaine injections off and on under the guidance of my LLND/MD in combination with other detox homeopathics. This is called neural therapy.

For me, the use of procaine has been beneficial for my health, though I cannot pinpoint what exactly it is actually doing. I think it might allow areas of trauma (micro) to heal so that opportunistic infections in the area cannot 'take hold.' Whether it is actually killing things, I cannot say... I don't feel any reactions after its' use (herx reactions), nothing like your reaction. Prolocaine may be different than procaine.

I noticed that it is used in pennicilin G for a variety of infections, but again, I wouldn't be able to say that procaine is added for fighting those infections. It is probably added for other reasons.

There was a discussion here once not long ago regarding spirochetes, dental issues, and the use of procaine, where someone felt that the procaine was having an effect. She went to her dentist every two weeks for injections. It was information brought over from the canlyme forum.

Here are two interesting links regarding the use of procaine in neural therapy and in a product called gerovital. The product claims a very wide range of benefits. I have never used it.

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/a2z/gerovital.htm

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/neural_therapy.html

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Patti,
Its is possible to get numbness on the opposite side of the injection site. (front teeth)

Especially if there's been a facial injury, but not necessarily.

In some cases, anesthetic could leak through from one side to the other, that's one possibility.

Or, the nerves could be "tangled up" from a previously broken nose or something.

(Of course, I'm talking about the front teeth, and I think you are, too.)

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My thought is that it mimics the herx because the action is the same. It interferes with the normal function of the nerve.

Thank God it does, because I'd never want to sit through a filling without anesthetic!
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Interesting theory about the procaine, clairenotes. I'll check out those links when I have more time.

[ 01-29-2009, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: carly ]

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Carly,
No, I'm not talking about the front teeth. I'm talking about the tooth just before the 1st molar, and when I say that the reaction is stronger on the other side of my face, I don't mean on the back side of the tooth. I mean I got the shot near my right cheek, and the stronger reaction was on my left eye.

This is actually my typical herx. The herx is always stronger on the left side, I think because I was bit on the left side of my body.

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