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DeafFromLyme
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Hi ALl!

I know yeast can end up being a pretty big issue for Lymies due to high/long ABX treatment.

I am in preventative mode and would like some advice on what to do or take to prevent yeast and possibly Cdiff??

Also I spoke with a sales rep from a Probiotics co. and he said I could NOT take probiotics while on antibiotics????

I know NOTHING about probiotics so I was wondering if this is true? He says it lessens the effects of ABX..

Thanks for help! [Smile]

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Ocean
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Hi Erika,
I have never heard that about abx and probiotics. You cannot take probiotics at the same time that you take abx. Take probiotics 2 hours before or after the abx.

I think that sales rep doesn't know what he is talking about. My uncle is a chiropractor and always makes sure if someone is on abx or colloidal silver that they take probiotics. My first LLMD said to make sure you are on probiotic.

The only thing I can think of with this sales rep is that Antibiotic literally means 'against life' and probiotic is 'for life', perhaps he 'thinks' they will cancel one another out?? No idea.

Maybe someone else can chime in here!

take care,
Ocean

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DeafFromLyme
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Thanks Ocean,

Bumping this for more info on what to do about yeast? What type of whatevers are good to take to prevent it?

I truly do not want to get a super yeast infection! [Smile]

Thanks!!! [Smile]

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Ocean
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Hi Erika,
Sorry I forgot to answer your question, I got stuck on what that rep said!

For yeast, low carbs, no sugar at all (though I think a lot of us cheat at times, I know I do). For me personally, fresh garlic (a natural anti-fungal) works really well. Oil of oregano is another natural one. If you do get the yeasties badly, your doc may add Nystatin or Diflucan to help to kill it.

Definitely make sure you are on a good probiotic (my LLMD recommended Theralac, not to be confused with Threelac).

Oh, Extra Virgin Coconut Oil can also help to kill yeast and keep it at bay, just take a few teaspoons/day to help.

I probably haven't covered all the bases, my brain has been in lala land today!

Take care,
Ocean

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DeafFromLyme
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I;m glad you clarified the Threelac and Therelac thing because I looked for Therelac online and got Threelac so i thought I miss spelled....

Where can I get Therelac? Is it an online thing or at a store?

BTW I am totally screwed with this then I have WORLDS BIGGEST sweet tooth! And Pasta I Pretty much live on!!! How do you do it?

Ugh, this disease is no fun!

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it! I don't know if I can do the diet part [Frown]

Thanks again though!

[Smile]

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DealFromLyme,

I agree with everything that Ocean has told you.

I don't think any LLMD would tell you that you can't take a probiotic when on antibiotics. You have to take the probiotic atleast two hours AWAY from the antibiotic, but most all of them will even give you recommendations on their favorites to use.

You asked how to buy Theralac. I have never found it in any of the local health food type stores or anywhere else, but I order mine online at:

http://www.theralac.com/Links.aspx?selection=13

Diet is also extrmely important. Avoiding wheat and sugar is a huge bulk of it, but I know many also get recipes and substitution ideas over on :Whole Approach: which is a candida website.

My LLMD has me taking Diflucan WITH my treatment but my first LLMD only gave it to me when it started catching up to me. I've also been on Nystatin at verious phases.

And yes, many of the herbal protocols help with it. There are tons of those out there that I switch around with here and there.

Since I've been on abx for over two years solid and have been on IV abx for the last 7 months of them, I've had to watch the yeast every step of the way and even all these prevenatives still catch me off guard at times.

It takes dicipline and the diet was the hardest part since I felt I was starving but oddly, once you stick to it for even a couple of weeks, you really don't crave the sweets anymore.

We all do what we can for our own health. Good luck.

Cathy

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DeafFromLyme
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Thanks to both of you, I am ordering Therelac now!

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DeafFromLyme
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holy cow maybe not! $51 per bottle!

Don't have that kind of money right now. [Frown]

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DeafFromLyme,

Yes, it's definitely one of the more expensive ones. We have been ordering by the case to cut the price per pill, but yes, it is still more expensive than some.

What I have done is mix it with some of the other brands at the local health food store, but make sure they are REFRIGERATED.

Switching probiotics up is suppose to be a good thing anyway.

But you are right....some are definitely more expensive than others.

I was crossing lines of fighting candida no matter how strict my diet which is why I had to start taking my probiotics seriously.

Cathy

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Here are some links which should be helpful!!

Candida Diet and Elimination:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

Diet is the MAIN THING!!!

That guy selling probiotics must be nuts! Yes, take them 2 hrs before or after abx.

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Almost daily capsules of freeze-dried garlic has helped me keep yeast in control during a long time on abx.

I like the Jarrow brand, it's only about $8 for 90 capsules through iHerb.

Eliminating sugar from the diet seems to help the most.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vermont_Lymie:


Eliminating sugar from the diet seems to help the most.

Exactly! And "sugar-free" does NOT cut it! It contains a sugar that your body can still use to grow yeast.

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DeafFromLyme
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Oh guys!!! This is such bad news for me! [Frown] How on earth am I going to go with out pasta?(which I live on) and CANDY!!!!!!!!!

THIS STUPID DISEASE SUCKS! It ruins everything~!~!~!

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One word, GARLIC. Garlic prevents and inhibits yeast better than anything else.
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