lymeHerx001
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My D is low, im supplementing.
Is this good?
What about Marshal. Is he angry at me?
Im not doing his protocol and I still do herx.
Anyway, opinions help. thanks.
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disturbedme
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There's a ton of discussions about Vitamin D - if you do a search.
For some, they think it's a good idea and helps them... and for others, they think it makes them feel worse... so I don't know, I think it depends on the person.
For me, Vitamin D is helpful and I've always thought it helped me feel slightly better while supplementing... but that's just me.
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lymebytes
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Before starting any fat soluble vitamin, testing is necessary. There are only a few fat soluble vitamins: A, D, E & K. Fat soluble vitamins can build up in the body and without careful monitoring cause an excess amount which has its own set of symptoms and problems.
That being said...
There is an epidemic of d deficiency. Unless you are getting 20 minutes every day in the sun with most of your skin exposed, chances are your are deficient and should ask for a full vitamin D test - both parts: 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (Calcidiol, Calcifidiol) & 1,25 dihydroxy-vitamin D (Calcitriol)
I don't know much about the Marshall protocol, but from what I understand before starting this your D levels must be within normal limits.
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Beats me. The arguments on both sides sound authoratative. Maybe some need more D and some do not. But which ones?
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It's an important discussion since so many (most?) of us here have abnormal D levels.
What convinced me is that I learned (before I had ever heard of the MP) that for me D supplements act like a weak steroid. Just like steroids, taking D made me feel better... until I stopped, and then I felt even worse.
When I started researching this puzzle, I learned that vitamin D is a form of steroid, and that steroids damp down the immune system, the opposite of what I want if I'm going to beat this infection.
I also learned that 1,25D is the biologically active form. It's rarely tested because the test is more expensive, and for non-lymies the less costly 25D test serves as an adequate proxy. My 1,25D was very high. When I got the level down, my chronic headaches and bone problems virtually disappeared.
In many lymies, the more-often-tested 25D gets low because 25D is being consumed by the process of conversion to 1,25D.
Maybe as some claim the high 1,25D is the body's way to fight the infection. Well, many years of it didn't cure me, instead I was growing worse. Getting my D under control and taking abx are slowly getting me well.
Maybe abx can cure you despite the high 1,25D. Maybe they can if you take other steroids too. Maybe it varies by person. For me, D reduces my immune reaction, something I don't want when fighting an infection. Of course YMMV
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lymeHerx001
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Do 25D can be low and 125D can be high and 125D is never tested because its more expensive.
In a normal healthy human would 25D be high or low?
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