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Northerner
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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone has tried the 2009 Detox Box Rife machine? If so, how do you like it?

Also, has anyone had their tinnitus (ringing in ears) lessened from using a Rife Machine?

Thanks!

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I have the Dan Tracy model EMEM 5A .. Love it.

ARe you on the lyme/rife email list?

www.lymebook.com/resources

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The Rife forum has a person treating Tinnitus with frequencies. It appears to b e working from the posts I have read.

You can check it out at www.rifeforum.com

I have never heard of this frequency device until now. I do not think it has been around long.

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I also have a EMEM5A from Dan T. I am loving mine. The group is great so come join us.I have not heard of the machine you are asking about. Joyce
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Thanks for all of your suggestions. I will definitely check out those message boards.

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I have seen the ads & looked at the website for the Detox Box. I haven't seen anyone posting about it here. Seems people do have some good responses to the EMEM series, Doug Coil & Dan Tracy model.

I'm thinking of trying Rife sometime in the future. I don't want to overdo it with different therapies right now.

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EMEM, Doug Coil, GB-4000.

These are the most used frequency devices that have helped many Lyme patients reduce symptoms, with a few rare occurrences of total symptom resolution. They are the proven ones.

There are others that will work as well. There also are weak or unreliable machines that will only waste your money. I would stick with the proven ones or investigate closely before spending money on a device that is not proven.

My wife could not hardly take a five minute session three years ago. She had bad joint pain, Lyme rages, and fevers. She would feel a lot of pain in her joints when running most of the Lyme frequencies. We almost had to stop running the Babesia frequencies due to the bad pain they produced.

Last night we ran our GB-4000 through the Rife Labs EMX running several Lyme and Babesia frequencies. Over an hour and a half of treatment in one session.

She slightly felt one custom autoprogram I put together using 306 hz and the next seven harmonics of 306. She felt none of the other autoprograms.

She could feel the Babesia frequencies slightly in her feet and lower legs. This is where her symptoms started in the beginning.

She woke up this morning with no herx, no indication that she was treated at all.

She is as well as you can be without being completely cured. I feel we can completely resolve this disease in a couple more years of regular frequency treatment. I am 100% sure she will not return to her former state after she acquired the disease, providing we do regular treatments.

She has used many alternative treatments, as we did not have the opportunity to use any standard ones. Most worked to one degree or another. The problem with all of them is that you simply cannot use them long term. Until a method comes along that can kill Lyme totally in a short time you may as well plan on a long treatment time.

Frequency treatments are one of the few treatments you can use for years, if needed.

We have had no assistance from the medical community, other than lately when she saw a homeopathic doctor. We have had lots of assistance from this forum and others who have the disease and know what they are talking about.

We also have had lot of help from the people who build, use and are self educated on the use of frequency treatments.

Thank you all for your help, and here is our story to hopefully help others who may choose to use this approach.

Dan

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D Bergy,

Thanks for this post. It was very helpful.

Would you mind if I PMed you with a few questions?

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Not at all.

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Thanks for all the info and recommendations everyone. I have gotten cold feet about ordering the Detox Box Rife since I can't find anyone that has used it for feedback on it.

I am now going to look into the GB-4000 Rife machine. For those of you who have a GB-4000: Is it easy to figure out how to run even if you have severe brain fog?

Also, are there frequencies on the GB-4000 that will target Erlichiosis, Bartonella, Mycoplasma, Candidia, etc.?

Does this machine make any noise when it is running? (I have bad hyperacusis in my ears.)

Does it come with a book that lists different frequencies for many conditions? If not, does anyone know of a good reference book I can buy that lists the frequencies to use for different diseases and conditions?

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I have seen the frequencies on the internet on various sites. So, I don't know if you really need to buy a book. I'm not sure if they are different for each machine.

I haven't tried Rifing yet...

This site has a list -

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/new_frequency_2.htm

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Hi,
Where do you purchase these? How much are they? Also, it sounds complicated to me is it?


Thanks,
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A book by Bryan Rosner has lots of info. Lyme desease and Rife machines. You can post on the Rife group to see if anyone has a machine you can try. A very sweet guy loaned his emem5a to a few of us and I was sold. It is one of the cheaper ones $465.
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Dan---
About:

"Last night we ran our GB-4000 through the Rife Labs EMX ..."

Could you explain what this means? What is EMX?

Thanks very much.

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Does anyone know how the more expensive units compare to the less expensive ones - in layman's terms?

There are many different units available which offer many interesting qualities & accessories... Do we really need all of that to fight Lyme & company?

I have seen that Rosner suggests rotating the different machines & trying different ones because they have different properties. What do people here think about that?

Is there one "best" model or do we really need to think of using a few different ones?

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The only book I've bought is Bryan Rosner's first book. Lyme & Rife Machines.

I printed the frquency list off the internet and use those. Also the machine I purchased is pre-programmed with 100+ protocols and came with a nice book with hundreds of more freq protocols.

My machine is one of the most expensive. I don't say it's any better than other machines. It's powerful, I do know that. It was the rife I was led to early on and I was blessed enough to have retirement money to buy.

I've used my machine since '03 and I've never regretted my purchase. It will be with me always.
I use it for colds, flu, anything and everything with my spouse & myself.

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The GB-4000 comes with a book of frequencies containing most everything you will need for most anything you would want to experiment with.

It is not really any more effective than any other machine, but it is more convenient and faster to use. It can run eight frequenies at the same time. It has preprogrammed autoprograms for Lyme and many other conditions. It is easy to use.

You can also make your own autoprograms. I have many I have made and use often.

It is also more expensive than most other machines. So you pay for this convenience. The theory I have about the GB is that it is easy to use, so you are more likely to use it.

The one disadvantage is you have to hold contacts while using it. This is not really a problem for someone starting out. But when you are using run times of over an hour, as we are, it is a hassle.
Most people cannot run it this long without a serious reaction. But my wife is now in the stage where her bacterial load is low and we are trying to eliminate the remaining bacteria using long run times.

That is why we use the GB-4000 hooked to a separate plasma machine. We use it with the Rife Labs EMX. this is another machine that is not designed to be used with the GB-4000, but can be with the right adapter. This way nothing has to be held during treatment.

What you use is largely going to be determined by what you can afford, and what features you want. They all work, but the GB-4000 is probably the most convenient and easiest to use. this makes it more likely to be used because it is easy.

When it comes to bang for the buck, you still cannot beat an EMEM. It works and it is cheaper than most others.

Dan

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Dan,

you mentioned that your wife had lyme rages to deal with.
my son has primarily rather significant neurological and neuropsychological symptoms to contend with.

could you describe your experience as to how effective rife frequencies are pertaining to brain infection,
and whether you would consider those particular symptoms difficult to treat with rife?

any notable relief early on?

i was looking at photons, and now rife.

he's on abx, but we really need a leg up. these symptoms are just excruciating.

we are strapped beyond imagination after six years of this, so obviously i have to think carefully and spend wisely.

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Talked to Dan Tracy the other night to make my order. He has alot to say about Lyme & Company.
Learned alot, he's great! Hope to get my machine in a month. Abx does get to the bugs in me, but I only go downhill. I think toxins and yeast have helped to make me worse. [group hug]

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Emem5A is very easy to use,even with my lyme foggy brain.You just put in the numbers and sit there. I started off with 2 min lyme and herx was too much so backed down to one min and increasing. I have had to do this with all treatments.I had a friend put a handle on top and velcro to hold cords. You receive papers with all kinds of frequencys. Colds,flu,lyme co-infections etc,etc.
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I wish people were more apt to share the rife machines. It would help out alot with costs. It seems that you don't use it that much - especially at first. It's just unfortunate that people interested in this live so far apart...

I know all about the strapped for cash situation...

I was reading about analog vs. digital. It seems that analog may cover more of the increment frequencies to have a broader range to treat. Does anyone think this is true? Think of a digital radio vs. one with a knob...

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I also have an EMEM that I purchased from Dan Tracy and I love it.

I have a very distinguished herx pattern followed by some really GREAT days.

To answer Mo's question - I have also suffered from nuerophsychiatric issues but seemed to have gotten over that hump about 8 months ago - or so I thought.

Well last Monday I woke up and was extremely out of it to the point of feeling confused and VERY irritable - within an hour I was so irritable that when my husband came in the bathroom and asked me a simple question I exploded, screamed at him and then kicked a large hole in my bathroom door.

I then burst into tears bc it was so out of line and so NOT me - and I haven't felt that way in so long.

I immediately went and plugged in my machine and ran 4 frequences for a total of 20 minutes. About midway through my session it was literally like a light bulb switched in my brain - I felt clear headed and "normal" - no more crazy Lauren, thank God!

I felt great for the rest of the day, which is what I've experienced every time I've use my machine - almost immediate clearing of whatever Lyme symptoms I'm experiencing at the time.

The next day and the day after however were spent on the couch feeling like death, which is also what I experience every time. Ususally by the 3rd day I'm funcional again and by days 4 and 5 I feel pretty good.

Mookie, I'm so excited for you! Mr. Tracy is a wonderful person and you can call him anytime - he's always happy to help and answer questions.

Sparkle I would LOVE to share my machine but living in Mississippi I don't know too many folks with Lyme and the ones I do aren't interested....

I see your "In the South" now...whereabouts?!

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Dan---

So what is the right adapter, and how do you attach the machines? (to run the GB4000 through the EMX?)

Thanks!

from pamois.

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I do not know the part number, but it is a male banana jack to coax converter. Rife Labs has the exact part available, I think. The adapter just plugs into one positive and one negative jack of the GB and the coax plugs directly into the EMX. I think this could be done with any EMEM. But you do have to run the GB in Audio mode when doing this.

The brain problems were in part taken care of by Samento and Cumanda, which we used early on. But the real improvement was using the GB-4000 with stock CAFL Lyme frequencies. I ran them all so I cannot identify any ones in particular. These symptoms were the easiest ones to resolve. I do not think it took over two months before she was back to normal in this sense. She has never had any brain symptoms since.

This may be a case where contact mode would work better than a tube. The water content of the brain may help the conductive nature of the contact method. I am only speculating here, but it did work quickly.

The first treatment was scary, because it produced a huge herx and mouth blisters. We never had the mouth blisters reoccur after that first time. I am still not sure what was killed that caused the blisters.

Dan

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Mo, 432Hz corresponds to 632nM.

We're talking the EM spectrum to help. Step 1.

Step 2 = restore Mg (MgCl)levels.

Far infrared is, IMO, more "powerful"...not to say Rife doesn't work (it does)...

Rife frequencies sent thru an argon light (depth of penetration) is a lot more costly (machine-wise).

To reduce brain inflammation (TNF alpha and IL1 B) research OmegaBrite.

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I have been seeing on the websites that sell the GB-4000 Rife machine, that they have an optional feature you can request of having the "positive DC offset enabled."

I have no idea what this means, and when I e-mail them they can't elaborate because of the FDA rules.

Dan or anyone else..........do you know what this feature is? Is it a good thing to request when buying the machine?

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Thanks Lauren... I'm too far from Mississippi for it to work.

Any comments on analog vs. digital for treatment?

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hey dan,

bombarding you with a couple more questions here:
would your opinion be that similar effects to the GB-4000 calf frequency/tx can be had with an EMEM?
and is the EMEM [providing the contact treatment you describe?

i am so new at studying rife, after all of these years it's one thing i've never learned.

marnie,

in your opinion, are you referring to infrared light devices, alone..
and does a machine exist that takes rife through argon light?
432Hz corresponds to 632nM - is this referring to rife?

lauren,

thank you for your descriptions, and that sounds very intriguing. nice to know dan will speak with you himself about the device.

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Any advantages to the Perl? The cost is very high.. any benefit to that? The GB4000 sound pretty sophisticated.. do they do the same things?

I think the Perl can be non contact, so sounds like you can make the Gb non contact through the EMX.. can you though the EMEM5A?

Thank you for this thread!

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The DC offset is to clean up DC current from an AC signal. It is to make the wave form as accurate as possible. The GB has a pretty clean signal to begin with. That is the technical description, but they may have another reason unknown to me to use this.

I would request it, because they have a good reason for adding it, even if they cannot say why. I know these people are in the fore front of frequency research. More so than anyone else, and that is all I will say about that.

Analog signal has a natural drift to it that acts a a slight mini sweep. That is really the only difference between Analog and digital. Since you can just as easily sweep with digital on purpose, I do not think it matters much in this particular case. It is one of those hair splitting things that do not matter much.

An EMEM is generally not a contact machine, although some have a contact option, but no one here likely has that model. I am speculating on the contact mode being better for brain conditions. I have not tested both ways, so do not take it for fact. It could be completely wrong. I was just astounded at how fast the brain symptoms went away compared to other physical symptoms.

The contact mode I was referring to was using the GB-4000 with the amplifier with the hand and foot contacts. I did not get the EMX machine until fairly recently.

From our use of both, I think an EMEM works every bit as good as the GB-4000. It just is not as fast when using one frequency at a time. They both work with the same frequencies, and I would be comfortable using either.

Dan

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I believe any EMEM can use the GB-4000 as a signal generator, but ask the manufacturer to be sure.

The PERL is unique in that it is a plasma machine and uses a carrier RF signal. This was abandoned in all but the earliest and most effective original Beam Ray devices in the thirties designed by Royal Rife.

WWII and the military band of radio signals made it unwise to run a RF carrier frequency since it could interfere with military communications.

The RF signal was removed from his plasma machines in later models and some other important details that were not known until recently.

They never worked as well since. The PERL is the closest thing to an original Rife Machine available. It still is missing an element that likely would make it more effective, but that will appear in future generation of devices, I hope.

The PERL is a very good machine, but expensive.

The GB also uses a carrier frequency, but it is used in a contact method.

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Hey Dan, I have a question about rifing for co-infections but no one I've talked to seems to give me a straight answer.

I also have Bartonella and Babs and want to start rifing for those. From what I've read 570 treats babs and 832 treats bart. Do you know of any other frequencies that are effective for these 2 co's?

My other question is how long and how often should I Rife for these 2? I know they replicate much faster than Lyme...should I do them every day? Twice a week?

Thanks!
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I do not have any particular frequencies for either of these. I would just run all of them in the CAFL and I will run them in a channel sweep mode also.

Others have mentioned 76, and 570 hz for Babesia.

If the use of the frequencies for these co-infections does not bother you in any substantial way than I can think of no reason not to treat often. As you say, they reproduce faster and it may take a frequent treatment to kill them.
If it is possible, I would try an everyday treatment for a week or two. You will have to be the judge as to if it is working or not.

I believe the Babesia frequencies are able to damage this protozoa, but I do not know if it can clear all of it. The little evidence I have says it cannot. I do not know if the Bart frequencies work or not. I have never had to use them.

Lyme is a different matter. It is supposed to revert back to the spirochete form in as few as nine to fourteen days from what I have read. I think the treatment of Lyme should roughly follow that 9-14 day cycle, since the spirochete form is the most vulnerable to resonance.

If you can treat at every nine days to two weeks, you should gain on the disease. You may not be able to do this right away, but is something to work toward. Treatments more often than once a week for Lyme are probably not gaining you much.

Dan

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Does the Tracy machine have two or one tube and is it analog or digital? Thank you!

Thank you, Dan, for your responses.

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Dan.. whats missing from the Perl?
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Is the Perl still the best rife machine available?

Ive used one a few times and did notice a slight increase in symptoms.

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Dan, Dan, Dan! He's the man! That's my way of saying thanks for taking the time to answer all of our questions [lol]

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The PERL is one of the best available. But all any machine has to really do in the end is make accurate frequencies and deliver them effectively to the body.

They use different methods but the result is the same. There may be some slight advantage to one or the other in a specific circumstance, but not much.

The experts in this science have discovered that a high voltage tube device, when gated properly produces a quick plasma deionozation that causes a spike of electricity which collapses the cell wall of the bacteria targeted. At least that is the theory. Rife mentioned this but no one was really exactly sure how his device worked until recently.

James Peters, who frequented this forum for a short time was one of the key individuals who helped to discover this. It has not been tested under a microscope yet to my knowledge, but I am quite sure it will be before long.

High voltage tube devices have not been used by anyone other than James and possibly a few others who still understand vacuum tube technology.

There are still a few things to be worked out but the missing link is now known. I am hoping this extra element will allow the kind of results Rife recorded.

Rife never worked with Lyme Disease so it remains to be seen if it helps with this stubborn bacteria. He did discover effective frequencies for Syphilis, which is similar to Lyme in many respects.

The modern devices likely only slightly damage most bacteria, although it does kill Lyme spirochetes in a short time. The effect is most likely a the immune system taking advantage of a slightly damaged bacteria. This is not the same as Rife's machine. His would destroy or disable all the bacteria he observed under he microscope. That is rare with today's machines.

Todays machines are not really Rife machines in the true sense. They are just called that for the sake of simplicity. Future machines may have the exact same output as his. Then they could rightfully be called a "Rife Machine".

I do not know what kind of machines Dan Tracy makes. I know they work, and he does not make much profit off of them.

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Thanks, Dan.... This is kind of a technical subject & there are so many options. It's hard to make a decision as to with device is best for the money. I appreciate your input.

I have read that some people find that supplements or herbs can interfere with the Rife (type) treatments. Does anyone think it works better if you don't take any supplements, drugs, herbs?

On thing I read mentioned that if you try to kill the spirochetes with an herb or drug - it causes them to go into cyst form which may be harder to penetrate with the Rife.

Using the Rife may "vaporize" the bacteria. So, it may be better to have them in regular form & not some of the other forms...

I don't know if this is true or logical. I just read it on one of the websites I looked at.

I didn't find that colloidal silver helped me. Might there be any synergistic effect to combine Rife with colloidal silver?

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Alright, I want to try rife but I am worried about a few things...

ONE: My symptoms are mainly neurological and is what keeps me bedridden.... does this cross the BBB?

2. I have Severe EMF sensitivty, will the rife effect this more? Can you use rife with EMF sensitivity?

3. Can you use herbs, abx, and supplements with rife?

4. I have tachycardia, heart pounding, etc... Does rife negatively effect the heart?

5. Does rife put off radiation?

Thanks!!! [Smile]

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Buy a cheap EMEM unless money is not an issue. You can improve quite well without breaking the bank.

You certainly can use frequencies with antibiotics or any other treatment. You are correct that you will likely put more of the Lyme into cyst form or kill of the spirochetes with the other treatment.

This does make the frequency treatment itself less effective because there is less to kill.

Whether this makes your overall treatment less effective is up to debate.
There are too many variables to really say one way or the other.

Magnesium seems to help bring out the bacteria into spirochete form. That is not a sure thing but my wife felt lousy after taking Mg. This went away months later, but it seemed to bring the Lyme out of hiding within 20 minutes. Either that, or it was some other effect that I do not have an explanation for.

One thing that I think can be used together with frequency treatments that does not chase it into cyst form is homeopathy. They also have something important in common in that they both can be used long term without side effect problems.

What I do not like about Colloidal Silver is that it is an indiscriminate killer of bacteria. It kills most all bacteria good or bad. I do not know of any synergistic effect with CS. The amounts needed for Lyme would be scary to me.

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ok dan,

i'm very interested in what you have to say about the "true rife" not being emulated in machines available today.

this makes allot of sense to me based on what i do know about rife (original) and what i am learning, and find confusing, about modern rife.

what do you know of (or where can i read more about) today's technology as it approaches and compares to the original machines?

how far are we from having access to machines akin to real rife models?

mo

appended, a piece i've read recently:

source: The TRUE Rife Technology
(c) Robert Neil Boyd
http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/rife.htm

The original Rife Ray Tube was constructed with old "Crookes-style" X-ray tubes, which had been filled with a mixture of hydrogen and helium gases. Due to the presence of these gases, these X-ray tubes were absolutely useless for generating X-rays. But, such tubes are perfect for releasing expanding spherical shells of charged subquantum particles when these tubes are energized with very high voltage, exceedingly fast, pulses of direct current electricity. When the number of pulses per second is the same as the resonant frequency of the given micro-organism, the creature is shattered into pieces. The distinction between frequency and pulses per second, is an important understanding. Alternating current will never liberate the charged subquantum particles which live, embedded, in "normal" electricity. Only very fast pulses of high voltage DC will liberate these embedded subquantum particles from the electrical flow.

The advantage of using these pulses of high DC voltage to liberate the radiative form of charge (the radiative form of charge is rather like electrically-charged light), is the fact that the expanding shell of subquantum charged particles released by the high speed DC impulses penetrates all known materials with ease. Dr. Rife found that his rays would shatter viruses enclosed in hermetically sealed chambers of metal, at distances up to 7 miles away from the transmitter. Whereas applications of alternating currents at the same frequency will be nearly useless because in many cases they will never penetrate the human body to any useful depth, in many cases being active only at the skin level of the person.

In summary, the original Rife Ray Tube was a specially made Crookes-type X-ray tube which was impulsed on the order of 15 million times per second, in order to destroy the BX virus, while this penetrating shell of "charged light" was coupled to the human body more efficiently by application of alternating currents in the audio range, so as to penetrate deep into the body. Every species of micro-organism requires a completely different repetition rate of impulses per second, coupled with the specific audio frequency which will make these penetrating rays even more effective. These audio frequencies are known as the "Crane frequencies" after a person who worked in Dr. Rife's laboratory. These frequencies are almost perfectly useless by themselves. Only some tiny minute fraction of the energy applied at these audio frequencies will leak into some of the micro-organisms, and then only by dint of the harmonics and overtones of the audio frequency radiation. An almost insignificant, practically useless, amount of energy is transferred to the micro-organisms by application of harmonics and overtones of audio frequency transmissions.

The fact that the useless "Crane frequencies" have survived, while the actual resonant frequencies painstakingly discovered by Dr. Rife, specific to each species, appear to have been lost, is due to the strident efforts of the AMA, on the behalf of the pharmaceutical industry, to eliminate all traces of the most valuable medical tool in history, so that the pharmaceutical industry could continue to cruelly sell many useless, health threatening, and lethal drugs to an unsuspecting public.

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I have not seen the article you posted before. Some of what is proposed I have not heard of before anywhere else. This in particular is not something I have ever heard anywhere else.

In summary, the original Rife Ray Tube was a specially made Crookes-type X-ray tube which was impulsed on the order of 15 million times per second, in order to destroy the BX virus

He did use X-ray tubes, but the impulse rate is not documented in any literature I have read. I would have to put this question to people who have researched this more in depth than I have.

One error in the linked article makes the claim that BX and BY virus are the only cause of Cancer. I know for a fact Rife never claimed that. He was extremely meticulous in his experimentation and his statements. He only claimed, and proved by hundreds of experiments that BX and BY produced Cancer and also stated that he is not claiming they are the only cause. He simply had no way of proving that, and would not have ever have made a claim he could not support.

The reference to Crane frequencies being useless is also an over statement. The frequencies in the audio range are not nearly as effective as Rife's were. But Rife's frequencies are not as effective using modern machines as they were with his own early machines either.

My experience is some of the audio frequencies are quite effective. Of course they could be much more effective using the exact resonant frequency instead of a subharmonic. They used what they had to at the time. High RF frequencies would have raised eyebrows in the radio age.

For the most part, we know what frequencies Rife was using. And recently it was discovered when he treated, he used sweeps since it was not practical or even possible at that time to get the exact frequency each time you used the machine.

The article has a few errors I can spot and I am not an expert.

The trouble with trying to replicate Rife's work is that he was a genius and had the backing of the Timken Bearing empire behind him. His microscope that was able to see live viruses is gone and none exist in working order. All his early machines were destroyed.

He was way ahead of his time and we are only beginning to catch up.

I do not know how long it will be before one of these new generation machines will be available. I have been trying to find out myself, but no one is talking. There also is the chill of the FDA prosecuting a distributor of the Global Wellness machine in the air. This tends to make people rather quiet. The FDA has been after these machines since early on, and it has not ended yet.

They will be made, either in a garage or in a factory. It will happen within five years, I am quite sure of that.

The best source for the new discoveries concerning Rife's early machines are at the following site.

http://www.rife.de/history_of_rife_instruments.html

Happy reading.

Dan

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Can someone please answer my questions? I seemed to have been looked over...

[ 03-29-2009, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: UnexpectedIlls ]

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Sorry, I missed your post.

Alright, I want to try rife but I am worried about a few things...

ONE: My symptoms are mainly neurological and is what keeps me bedridden.... does this cross the BBB?

Yes.

2. I have Severe EMF sensitivty, will the rife effect this more? Can you use rife with EMF sensitivity?

Yes, It could make it worse at first. This usually goes away when the bacterial load is reduced. The bacteria does not like frequencies or EMF's.

3. Can you use herbs, abx, and supplements with rife?

Yes

4. I have tachycardia, heart pounding, etc... Does rife negatively effect the heart?

If you have a pacemaker you should not use frequency treatments. Since any treatment for Lyme could affect the heart for better or for worse, I would not exclude that possibility. This is a Lyme treatment problem but not specific to frequency treatments. Frequency treatments are considered experimental and not all effects are known. You should be under a doctors supervision for heart problems for any treatment including frequency treatments.

5. Does rife put off radiation?

If you are speaking of harmful ionizing X-rays, no it does not. There is not nearly enough power to produce these.

Disclaimer:

Non of this constitutes medical advice, as I am not a physician. They are my opinions. Consult with a physician before using any treatment.

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i appreciate your feedback on that article, dan.

i'm extremely uneducated on the subject at this point, but tend to be a binge researcher when i am in need of a treatment modality, putting in many hours trying to gain understanding.

i learned of rife many years ago (pre-lyme, pre-any illness) and find it chilling that so much to do with his work was destroyed, and how much will continue to be suppressed by fda forces and the like.

thanks for the link!

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It seems similar to Nicola Tesla. I'm sure there's other great inventions that have been suppressed, as well.

Marc Seifer has done alot of research into Tesla. I found an interview with him to be very interesting.

http://www.marcseifer.com/

Hope it's not too off subject to bring this up...

I've seen so many good reviews about using Rife - it seems logical to try it. Thanks for the clarity, Dan. Thanks for letting us know that we don't need the expensive machine to have some progress.

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Tesla is a very interesting person and certainly a genius who probably knew more about electricity in his time, than we do today.

The common theme with all of these super intelligent people is they have their moment, fade into obscurity and seem to always die broken men and penniless.

They are extremely focused in their field, but lack any degree of business savvy.

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Thank you, Dan.
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A lot of you folks know I've had my Rife Machine for awhile. For the last two years I've known some of you enjoyed your machines. What progress have many of you made since 2006-2009? I have the EMEM3D2 RifeLabs machine. Solid construction, works well -- I haven't "used" it for treatment though, so it's been sitting in waiting. I'm working through other modalities to chip away as much as I can before I totally unleash the final blows.

Treating:

Hormone levels
Chelation of Toxic Metals (Primarily Lead and Mecury)
Antibiotics (Minocycline, Azithromycin/Plaquenil, Bicillin)
Nutritional Support
Diet
Antibabesia therapy
I just went after toxic mold recently. It should be long dead.

The goal is to get as many things handled as possible and then strike the final blows to borrelia. Biofilms or not, the little ****s will die if they aren't in cystic form when attacked!

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How is your treatment program working for you Metallic Blue?

You sound like you are doing alright. If what you are doing now is working, you are doing the right thing to stick with it.

I am also curious as to what your anti-babesia treatment is?

Dan

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The EMEM and the EMX do not sweep do they?

The GB4000 does sweep...

So when you use the GB400 through the EMEM, you are getting the non-contact function of the EMEM or EMX with the control of the GB?

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When purchasing used rife machines does hours used matter? What effect does that have on the longevity of the machine?

Thank you [Smile]

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Disabling makes the most sense to me given we are not dealing with true rife machines..

And if that is so, it would be a good idea to have immune support, I would think.

The KMT disables.. does anyone know the difference between the KMT and rife machines?

I have no clue what frequencies it uses.. it has to use frequencies of some sort.

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So when you use the GB400 through the EMEM, you are getting the non-contact function of the EMEM or EMX with the control of the GB?

Yes, this is not the only way to do this. Many function generators can sweep but the GB-4000 was the device I already had. You can find less expensive ones to do sweeps.

Whether an EMEM sweeps or not depends one what function generator is controlling it. Some are built into the machine, and some are external.
Check with the manufacturer for sweep capability.

I bought my GB-4000 used. They will generally run for thousands of hours. The GB has a weak point in the wires that the hand and foot conductors are attached to. The aluminum wires will break near either end, where they bend the most. You will not really notice this as the insulation is still intact. I noticed mine broke when the machine quite killing Lyme. These should be tested once in a while.

A KMT works on microcurrents and I think it impairs the bacteria's ability to reproduce.

Rife type frequencies can destroy spirochetes directly, but with most pathogens it likely just weakens them enough for the immune system to do the rest.

My example of this was when I treated for H-Pylori that was wreaking havoc in my stomach. It killed it in the stomach easily enough. Later EAV testing showed I have it systematically.

I do not know how accurate this testing is, but I think it was easy to kill this bacteria in the stomach because of the stomach acid. It just had to weaken it slightly since it was in a hostile environment already. The rest of the body was a better environment and apparently some of the bacteria survived.

I think it is impossible to get lasting results from Lyme treatment without a strong immune system. In the end the immune system is what has to take over, once it is able.

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someone mentions sweeping and i'm thinking it can work like roomba..
maybe i can rig one to loofah my feet while
i'm at it.

oooookkeeeeeeeeeeee .. too much computer screen for mo today.

i agree regarding the immune system dan,
i believe that's what happened over time with my tbd's, from the clinical signs i got.

the link you posted was very informative on the history of the technology, thanks again.

i would also like to hear how folks are doing with their rife treatments.

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I just read somewhere that the kmt might also stir up Bb.. if so, that would be why to use the antimicrobials with it. Not sure if that is true.

Thank you for all your answers, Dan.

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Does anyone know if the Tracy machine has a single or double tube and if it is digital or analog?
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Dan, I was wondering how you can test the aluminum wires of the GB-4000 to tell if they are broken? How do you replace them?

Thanks for helping us with all our questions, Dan!

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I could feel the break in the wire where the red and black insulation gets a white area near the end.
Once you see this white ring appear from bending you should replace the wires, all of them.

You can push the plastic sleeves off of the ends of the male connectors on the ends of the wires. Then the metal tip will thread off with enough effort.

At this point you can see the ends of the wire and loosen them from the end. You can now replace the aluminum wire with a copper wire equivalent. The wire will be slightly stiffer, but it will also last longer.

This is the only flaw I have found with the GB.

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Do you rifers find a need to travel with your machine and how do you do that?
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I have been looking into rife machines...

Is there a website where I can listen to the frequencies??

I would love to see what its all about before buying one.

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R62,

As lyme is only treated every 12 days (at least at first) travel may not be a bother.

Flying with one would, no doubt, bring much attention that would be beyond troublesome. As this is not approved by the FDA, there is the risk of confiscation.
However, one might ship it by Fed Ex ahead to their destination and back again the same way.

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Kreynolds,


It is not possible to "hear" the frequencies. They are basically silent. My EMEM5 unit is a light bulb that glow but in pulses that change with each frequency dialed up.

For the kind you hold in your hand, you really hear or feel nothing - or very slight tingling.


See if someone at your local lyme support group has one - or in a town near you. Then you could go see it.


Or go to the rife forum link posted way above and post that you'd love to see one near you.

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Keebler:

Thanks for the info, I did check out the link.

I am quite new to "Rife Machines" and it sounds very intersting.

At this point I am willing to try anything to get better. HBOT, Acupuncture, etc...

They are very expensive! At least the model that was posted.

Can you recommend a cheaper model that is great?

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Travel by plane seems would be an issue. I am thinking people who use more frequently exp to treat co-infections which reproduce faster.

Could mail it.. but that could result in damage and wouldnt want to mail a doug coil.

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