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stymielymie
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is there any connection with melanoma and
low immune system?
i have had 2 pre melanomas removed in the past month.
both were 1 step from being melanoma.
has anyone read any articles between increase in cancer with lower immune system???

docdave

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interesting i think. just saw my pcp this wk who orderd up more testing. she does not understand the full stuff of lyme but does get that this affets immune system in huge way.

given that with my hx of rhum lupus tx's for 9 yrs she is concerned about some lymph nodes

so, will see what ultrasound says, will try to go fri.

i have previously had 2 lymph nodes biopsied at least over8 yrs ago, grauloma changes, no docs could figure what was there- could not culture. sure was TBD

and have noticed just changes in two moles. were larger freckles now moles, gotten darker. one on back, the other on leg. trying to get to worried aobut everything though..called dermatology office and was 4 mo wait...havent called anyone else yet.

what was going on with the 2 u have had removed??
what changes? look liked? etc. would be great to know

my thought and PCP with me on this, anything causing immune dysregulation for years is bound to cause some issues.

in my case- lymph node swelling for over 9 yrs. now known infections. hx of immunosuppression tx. with all that the chances of something dividing wrong is higher and will immune system not up to par the body cant keep the "cancer" cells in check.

we make "cancer" cells all the time. any cell dividing wrong is then a potential to create cancer if more wrong cells cont. to divide unchecked by the immune system.

research is being done to look at role of infection in relation to cancer.

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I used doxy once and I forgot I was on it and was tilling the garden Now I have 3 different spots on my arm which are black and scaley I need to get them cut or burnt off.
I think when it happened I was just burnt but later when i was off abxs these showed up??
I also after last years bite in the fall while on minocin they faded completely while on mino?

Now its coming back.

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From what I have read recently, there is a direct correlation between low immunity and the ability of the cancer cells to multiply within the body unchecked. With immune dysfunction, the body's main defense (natural killer cells)are often very low in number and no longer able to protect the body against infection, viral pathogens, and cancer.

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stymielymie
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rense.com

New Research Links
Infection With Cancer
Study raises hopes antibiotics may be an
alternative to chemo, radiation
From Alan Cantwell M.D.
MSNBC.com
6-26-6

New research links infection with cancer Study raises hopes antibiotics may be an alternative to chemo, radiation The Associated Press Updated: 12:41 a.m. AKT Oct 31, 2005 PARIS - New research suggests that infection with bacteria from the Chlamydia family may play a role in the development of a type of lymphoma that affects the tissue around the eye, raising hopes that antibiotics may one day prove to be an alternative to chemotherapy or radiation.

The study, presented Monday at the European Cancer Conference, is the latest to link infection with cancer, following the establishment of the human papilloma virus as the major cause of cervical cancer and the bacteria Helicobacter pylori as a cause of stomach cancer.

"This is sensational," said Dr. Dieter Hossfeld, a professor of oncology at the University of Hamburg, Germany, who was not involved with the research. "It was first noted in Italy and now it's been confirmed on the other side of the world in Korea, and we've heard that there are similar findings in the United States, so it's not a regional disease and is obviously a valid thing," Hossfeld said.

The bacteria in question, Chlamydia psittaci, can be contracted from infected birds such as parrots. Scientists also suspect it can come from household cats because they also carry it. Chlamydia psittaci is known to cause a lung infection called psittacosis. In the study, Dr. Changhoon You from the Asan Medical Center in Seoul, South Korea, compared chlamydia infection in 33 people with ocular adnexal lymphoma, or OAL, and 21 people with a comparable but non-cancerous condition called non-neoplastic ocular adnexal disease. He found the Chlamydia psittaci strain was present in 78 percent of the cancer patients, but only in 23 percent of those in the comparison group.

In a previous study conducted in Italy, the bacteria were found in 80 percent of people with the lymphoma and in none of those in a comparison group of healthy people. "In the future, eradication of the (germ) could be a common treatment method for low-grade lymphoma, replacing current cytotoxic chemotherapy or radiation," You said. The Chlamydia family of bacteria has been linked to cancer before.

Scientists already have shown that another strain, Chlamydia trachomatis, is linked to the development of cervical cancer. Another, Chlamydia pneumoniae, has been linked to lung cancer. Ocular adnexal lymphoma belongs to a group of lymphomas where cellular changes result from immune system responses gone awry.

Scientists say it makes sense that infections such as chlamydia could contribute to the development of the disease. "It makes biological sense, but whether it will translate into anything practical, and for how many patients, this is the question," said Dr. Joachim Yahalom, a lymphoma specialist at Memorial SloanKettering Cancer Center in New York who was not connected with the research. In many of these types of lymphoma, an infection can start the process, but at some point the cancer becomes independent of the infection. So unless the infection is treated early, antibiotics may not be enough, Yahalom said.

Alan Cantwell M.D.
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FOUR WOMEN AGAINST CANCER
Bacteria, Cancer and the Origin of Life

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i started out with 2 lesions the doc removed
1 came back pre melanoma.
so he incised lesion then got aggressive with other
lesions.
nothing i thought was out of normal.
the second lesion was even closer to melanoma and
will be removed monday.
there is a 18% genetic factor involvement with
melanoma, and i think olive skun color is more prone
to this lesion. there is more melanin in olive skin than light skin.

docdave

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Recently attended a seminar in the USA about cancer, detox, and the immune system, given by a Cancer Dr. from GErmany. She said that each lesion she biopsied or removed, had boriella and heavy metals in it when tested....these were american patients who had it the worst!

She is on the cutting edge of all the latest cancer treatments. They now make immunizations with the patients own blood to fight the cancers. But need to clear the heavy metals and other toxins to help the immune system get strong to be able for the body to heal itself without the use of chemotherapy. (thre is much more to this therapy...but very interesting)

There is definatly a link she says to infections, that change the cell DNA structure, and the immune system is too compromised to take care of these pathogens. Cancer begins to form, due to mutations in DNA and gets kickstarted by either the addition of food additives, or enviromnental toxins.

Interesting research for us with lyme.

LP

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I assume Dave that you are correct in making a connection. My Dear LLMD, sends me to the dermatologist every 4 months because I had pre cancerous moles. She really is concerned .So make sure you go at least every 6 months.

I am happy you caught the moles in time.Good job>

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Lymeparfait, Could you give the data about this seminar, like name of the doctor, link or reference? Thanks.
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PM me for name.

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my dog had lyme and was tx almost yearly for 9-10 yrs

he just had a melanoma taken off. he has many black spots that are new...but not raised so docs don't want to do anything til they are raised.

my mom had lyme and melanoma.

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