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Leelee
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Is 89/65 considered low blood pressure?

I am feeling really weak and woozy this morning so I had my husband take my blood pressure. He has a blood pressure monitor. He said this was a great reading, but I don't know about that.

He had a heart attack a year and a half ago so he is more knowledgeable about high and normal numbers.

My breathing seems really slow and laborious too so I am wondering what all this means.

I have a clinical diagnosis of Lyme and Bartonella from a LLMD. We are awaiting lab results from Igenex and Fry.

Thanks for your help.

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Mine has been that low before, but then my BP is ALWAYS on the low side.

If this is definitely on the low side for you, I'd keep an eye on it.

Now this is from a nurse who freaked out when she measured my BP at 90/56--

"Your blood pressure should never be this low! You need to go to the ER right away!"

When I told her my BP was always low, and that I had already been to the ER twice, and they weren't concerned, she said,

"Well, if you start getting light-headed or faint, you need to go to the ER!"

Yeah.

Anyway, like I said, I'd just kind of keep an eye on it.

If you do start getting really faint or have a lot of trouble breathing or something like that, I would go and get yourself checked.

But if this is a one-time reading, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Hope you're feeling better soon!

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Leelee
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Thank you Starfall. I will monitor it regularly from now on. I had never paid any attention to it before.

My husband has always been the one with the problems in that regard.

When my LLMD took my BP last week he said it was low, but I don't remember what he said it was.

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Hi Leelee,

It is low, and if you are symptomatic, then you should seek Medical help.

I went to a duck on Thursday just so I have a PCP (haven't had one in 12 years). THe RN took my B/P, took the stethoscope off of her ear and said, "What is your blood pressure normally?"

I said it was 110/70 earlier this month (I was nervous though).

She said, "OK, I'm just going to take it again. It was a little muffled."

Then my heart rate shot up! I was worried it was really high or something!

She took it again (In nursing school we were taught that you wait a few mins before taking a b/p again, otherwise the reading can be false high, but they NEVER do that in the real world =(

She said, "well it was 102/60 this time."

And that was with me being really scared. I have a manual bp cuff here, maybe I should start taking mine just to see.

again, please if you are having abnormal symptoms though, go seek medical help, ok??

Let us know how you do!

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Leelee
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Thank you, Ocean. I, too, thought it was low. I'm trying to stay calm.

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Leelee,

My LLMD recommends taking blood pressure daily and at the same time each day. Also, keep the readings in a symptom log that you can take to your appointments.

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My blood pressure is always low. 80/40 - 90/50, which I believe makes me very woozy and lightheaded many times. I think I also have POTS.

But of course when I go to my doctor appointments, it's always 100/70 so the doctor doesn't think twice about it even though I tell him I have low blood pressure. :-(

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Watch those battery operated blood pressure monitors too...they are not always accurate...

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yes, that is low. You should make sure you are hydrated very well and add more salt in your diet. I would see a cardiologist and get a tilt table test, get checked for NMH (Neurally Mediated Hypotension) IV saline helps tremendously when the BP is low like that.
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leelee,

Also, can you take your b/p laying, sitting and standing up?

Report back =) I'm curious to see what the differences are if any.

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Hi leelee, Mine is too low too. 80/60, thats why I had to get a tilt table test done. Did you find out if insurance will pay for yours yet? Was that your post?

Of course during the test they could not make it drop, so frustrating, so I ended up with a negative table test. But since then every time I go to the Dr its been low again. I think low b/p and low temperature is common with lyme.

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A lot depends of what happens when you stand up - or after you have been standing for a while.

Look up NMH - Neurally Mediated Hypotension - and Orthostatic hypotension / POTS


It very involved but that's as detailed as I can get now.


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Inner ear involvement will also cause weak/woozy sensations.

Try ginger tea.


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mine has started being low since i had that awful stomach attack on march 11th.

went to doctor and he asked if i had died!!! it was about 70 or 50 something.

i felt ok, just a little tired.

normally it's been running about 90 over 70 or so.

i don't know what's going on lately.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ocean:

Also, can you take your b/p laying, sitting and standing up?

Report back =) I'm curious to see what the differences are if any.


Hi Ocean, Well, I took my b/p tonight at 7 pm and it was 94/59. I was sitting down. For some reason, my husband said I had to do it that way. I don't know why. [confused]

Maybe I have always have low b/p (?). I will keep checking it now that I know how to use the monitor.

For some reason I have the feeling it goes hand in hand with my hypoglycemia, but I don't know why I think that.

Thanks Ocean and everyone for your responses!

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Yeah, I was getting pressures like that until I realized my monitor wasn't worth the box is was packaged in....

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My blood pressure has been about 90/60 and my heart rate around 40-45 for the past year or so. It seems to be common amongst people with Lyme.

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I am off to Germany on Fri and feel so weak,can't seem to get my B/P up. 76/54.

Feel very weak (not tired) also, shallow breathing.

I hadfruit this wekkend and am also, hyproglycemic.

I don't need this right now,trying to get everything together for my trip.

Anyway I suppose that's life.

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Hi Leelee,

You can take b/p in any position, we did it all the time with heart patients (back when I was a student). If you take it with laying/sitting/standing, you can see if something is going on vascularly. Also, try to see what the pressure is in each arm, sometimes they can vary some.

Capa,

Have you seen a doc about this? Your heart rate concerns me, as it could be a grade 2 heart block. Which can occur as a result of Lyme. You may need treatment, depends.

I am not able to give medical advice as I am not a doctor. Please refer to your doctor's instructions regarding your health.

Take care,
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I hope you have a great trip in Germany. HOpe your symptoms can disappear for awhile so you can enjoy it!

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Thanks for the information Ocean. I was hospitalized for a low heart rate but they just told me to see a cardiologist (still awaiting an appointment). I am having a tilt table this Thursday per my neurologist.

Anything I should ask and/or watch for?

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Hi Lisa,

I'm glad you are getting the tilt table test, that is a start. I'm not super familiar with heart blocks, as I wasn't a cardiac nurse, but I did do some research last fall after my LLMD told me I had some irregular beats.

It seems a 1st degree heart block is the least serious, while a grade 2 can be serious or not. It causes a bradycardia which it seems you have. Some people can have a grade 2 and be OK, while others may need to et help from a cardiologist. A grade 3 certainly needs medical attention and can be fatal. I believe grade 3 hb are very uncommon though, and result from severe trauma/abnormality.

Do a search on heart blocks and see if any of your symptoms mimic any of them. Perhaps you could speak with the neurologist and see if s/he may want you to get in sooner to the cardiologist, I'll bet they could get the cardiologist to squeeze you in.

good luck, I hope everything is OK (and it may be, seems like you've been doing fine with this heart rate for awhile now). My mom's heart rate is in the 40's, sometimes 50's, she's a runner and a 'high' heartrate for her is 80!

Take care,
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I appreciate your help Ocean! The search I did for grade 2 heart block was spot on. These are the symptoms I have been experiencing for months.

My PCP sent me to the ER due to bradycardia and several hours later they sent me home stating that I needed a full cardiac workup. My appointment with the cardiologist was scheduled for 6 weeks later! I am still floored that they felt as though this was an emergency and now are making me wait nearly 2 months to see a specialist.

Hopefully the tilt table will reveal something. What constitutes an abnormal result?

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Hi Lisa,
No problem. I wonder if you could contact the cardiologist's office and tell them you most likely have a grade two heart block and ask if there is any way to get in sooner. You could also state that in the ER you were told you needed to see a cardiologist.

Maybe they will take it more seriously?

I don't know if you want to tell them about the Lyme, and if so, you can state that there is abundant research that reveals that Lyme Disease can cause a grade two heart block (you can tell them I was untreated for X number of years for the Lyme), and this infection is most likely causing this problem, since you were not bradycardic a year ago.

I'm sorry you are going through this though.

I am not familar with the tilt table test. I know some have passed out which is a failing result (or passing depending on the result you are looking for!). I'm not sure how much of a difference in blood pressure is needed.

I actually had never heard of this test til I found Lyme.net =)

I too hope that if something is in fact wrong, that this test will help them figure it out.

take care,
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leelee..1st ...put in nrw batteries into b/p machine first. do not rely on current batteries.

pls monitor ur b/p in am then later in day after u have been up and moving . record this sitting first, wait 5 min then stand up and take it. write down results. including heart rate. left arm is usually preferred. just using consistant arm. if severe diff. in reading of left /right notify ur md, could indicate cardiac concern.

b/p going below 50-40 on bottom number (diastolic) can cause kidneys to not be able to work properly. bottom # is resting pressure in heart btwn beats. constant low # is concern and call ur md.

top # (systolic) is measure of when heart is full/pumping. so this is the pressure put on arteries that leave ur heart. usually the concern is too high causes lots of pressure then strokes, tears, etc. a low # can mean blood not getting to tips of toes, so to say, effectivlly. less than 80 and u need to call ur md.

hope I am getting this right and explained ok.

might try to talk to nurse at cardio? ask for cancellation. or can neurologist call for appt??

keep log to bring with u. and low #ls can b dangerous and when having symptoms pls call md

capa.....that is very low heart rate. pls see md about this. keep daily log and notify md esp. with symptoms.

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