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FuzzySlippers
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May is Lyme Disease Awareness month.

Hopefully videos like these will help spread awareness of the living Hell that is Lyme.


When Lyme patients say that they are sick and can't function, we mean it.


Linked below are a couple of videos of a woman experiencing herxheimer reactions as she undergoes treatment for her Lyme.


"Lyme Disease Heather herx 1" (9 minutes in length)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YysgBDxvZ6c


"Lyme Disease Heather herx 2" (8 minutes in length)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNVjUD0iS_4&feature=related


No doubt Shapiro, Wormser, et. al., would say that what Heather is experiencing is from the "normal aches and pains of daily living," that she only really required three weeks of Doxycycline and she'd be healed.

Even worse, they, along with the majority of the willfully ignorant medical profession, would probably tell her to see a psychiatrist and that she does not have Lyme and does not need IV treatment.

Am I angry? You bet I am.

One hundred thousand thank you's of gratitude to Heather for sharing her healing journey with everyone. Thank you for showing the public the devastation of Lyme and the reality of Lyme herxheimer reactions.

Fuzzy

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Pretty powerful stuff. Reminds me to start documenting my own struggle. We all should really.

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no time to view now, but up we go so i'll see it late tonight when i'm on again then...

PLEASE ADD THESE TO MY VIDEO COLLECTION AT TOP OF SUPPORT OK!! thanks
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I am thinking about doing this as well. Not only to share but to remind myself when I am feeling better later on.

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wow, most effective HERX videos i've ever seen! i do hope you'll add them to my collection for others to view and learn from. big thanks slippers...
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I recogize myself here so much it's scary. How courageous of her to share this with the public.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I rated her videos 5 stars. Hopefully I will be able to compose some comments to add there soon.

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FuzzySlippers
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Betty,

I added this to your video thread at the top of General Support, as requested.

Fuzzy

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OK... I wanted to wait for people's replies before I shared my fear. I was hoping someone would have replied that it doesn't have to be that bad.

I have not been treated for lyme disease yet. My appointment is next week, and I'm not sure if I'm seeing an LLMD or just a lyme friendly doctor.

So this year has been the worst of my health issues ever. Some of them really scared me. Am I really going to be WORSE if I herx? Should I expect to at least have a repeat of what I experienced? That's bad enough.

I am just now getting better! My symptoms seem to flare in late fall and again in early spring. I fully expect the worst of the symptoms to be gone until fall.

It's kind of hard knowing I can chose to have a somewhat healthy summer with the pain that I have grown accustomed to, and my new twitches/muscle jerks etc; or I can have this hell.

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Jasmin,

I'm so sorry that the videos have frightened you!

I want to give you a resounding answer to your concern about the severity of herxing --

No! Not everyone herxes this badly and strongly!!!

I think there are so many variables that go into the reason for this -- the type of medications/treatments used, how aggressive the infections have become, the types of borrelia strains the patient has, how many co-infections are present, how much the patient is impacted neurologically before treatment begins, and more.

Some doctors and patients choose to undertake their treatment in a controlled fashion if at all possible. That is, they will try to control the severity of herxheimer reactions as best they can.

This can be done in a number of ways by the doctor and patient. One example could be staging the combination of treatments (like pulsing antibiotics, or starting with one or two meds/herbs and then introducing further treatment at defined times later on as the bacterial load is reduced).

Also, alot of the better LLMD's will make recommendations for the patient to assist them in boosting their immune systems and assisting their bodies in detoxing. Sometimes this is accomplished through taking supplements and herbs.

Hope this helps!

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Jasmin - you might want to watch the other videos of Heather in that youtube owner's list. There are two videos of her where she is NOT going through that. Here they are:

Heather PICC Line

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bSfHZVur-E&feature=channel

Heather Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGnvoK_wY3Y&feature=channel

Herxing can be tough, but it really depends on

1. how sick you are

2. what meds and what dose/dosing schedule you are on

3. what detox and supportive measures you are taking - these are very important.

4. Yours and your LLMD's attitude about how much Herxing is too much. Mine says herxing should be respected and that pushing yourself will not get you better faster, that in fact it can cause damage. He says to back off when you feel too bad, then ramp back up.


When I said that I understand all too well what she is going through - these were my symptoms BEFORE ever taking antibiotics. I have had symptomatic Lyme for possibly as many as 35 years.

My Lyme was manageable at first so I ignored it (was in denial anythign was wrong), it was all different symptoms I thought were normal as I was growing up. But it gradually worsened through my early and late 20s, and in the last 6 years it caused me to become debilitated because I did not get proper diagnosis and treatment.

There are many ways to mitigate effects of Herxing, but treatment is not an option when you have Lyme. You do NOT want to get as sick as I have. At my worst I am bedridden most of the month, but the treatment is bringing me back around. My husband recognizes me again. This is priceless.


I hope you don't mind if I repeat something I posted before about what Herxing is (or how I understand it after lots of research and reading).

People who start to herx when on a new antibiotic or when they increases their doses are lucky (yeah I know that seems absurd), because it can be a very good supporting indicator that the medicine is working. However, absence of a Herx does not prove or support the opposite.

Everyone experiences Lyme differently, and everyone experiences Herxing differently. Some people never Herx, some people never stop Herxing until they are in remission.

Some begin to Herx a few hours after taking the new medicine or larger dose, and some won't Herx for a month, or anywhere in between. The reasons are many and complex.


In brief, Herxheimer reactions can bring about new Lyme symptoms, or increase old Lyme symptoms, and there can be just as varied and numerous Herxheimer symptoms as there are Lyme symptoms. Basically, you are turning up the volume on your Lyme by killing it off. The Lyme toxins that normally make you sick are increased when they die off. I hope that clarifies things for you a bit.

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Oops! Fuzzy answered your questions first and much more clearly and concisely. I hope my post at least reinforces what was already said though.

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nenet,

I think your response is better.

:-)

Fuzzy

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Thanks, that does make me feel better. The reason

the videos are a little frightening to me is

because my last down time I was soo weak and out of

it and my muscles were jerking all over the

place. I kind of identified with her. So, if

antibiotics make me worse, I would not be

surprised to end up as badly off as she was.

Thanks for calming my fears. [Smile]

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