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Myco
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I began having strange irregular heart beats in 95'. Mine began with what felt like short, irregular runs (flutters) and when one made me sit down one day, I began to take it seriously. Tests found pvc's, pac's, short runs of PSVT and A-fib. This went on for years, and I also had many panic attacks along with the heart symptoms.

THEN in 2002 I got the GI symptoms and incredible viral feeling, like I had the flu. Sore parotid glands, bloating, visual disturbances, sensitivity to light. Then I became very weak.

I treated with Minocin and zithromax low dose and recovered fairly well after a few years. But my ongoing issues seem to be this heart disurbance that I get.

I have been working out 4-5 days a week (still on minocin and zith) and treating babs with alinia and Artemisia. Yesterday after walking/running on the treadmill I was making dinner about 30 mins later and I felt like my heart was beating strangely, then got sweaty, clammy and pale. Had pain in my left shoulder and some lower abdominal pain, maybe shortness of breath but hard to remember as I got a little panicky.

This happened a month or so ago a few times in my sleep also. Went to ER and they did a nuclear stress test which was fine, as was the echo and also had done a CT angiogram 2 yrs ago which was negative. My Cardio does not think it is a blocked artery but more likely a coronary artery spasm or some kind of a-fib. Not really sure what is happening. When the paramedics came last night I started to feel better after the nitro spray, maybe just because they were there.

I have had 10 or so heart tests over the years for blockages and they never find anything, so I am thinking this has to be an arythmmia of some kind as I don't really get out of breath when I exercise. This usually comes afterward or in my sleep or is triggered by something like a glass of wine.

Would love to hear from others who have this problem and would love to know what helped them. Does this get better after treatment for Lyme? Maybe I should be on IV so that it gets to the heart? I feel physically fairly well, have more cognitive issues that come and go.

Any advice would be appreciated. Really fear I am going to die from one of these events some day.

Thanks!

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Have you had your thyroid checeked?
I ask because I was admitted to a Swedish hopsital last week for heart abnormalities. Too bad the doctors are idiots and did NOT EVEN TEST MY HEART. No, I am NOT kidding. I am 34 years old.

Heart problems are a sign of thyroid probs, which are common in Lyme.
Worth a look.??

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Ps..you need a REALLY good doctor for this.
See www.drlowe.com

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Within the last year I have struggled with shortness of breath, feeling faint, and heart palpitations. All tests, EKG, Echo, Holter monitor all came out normal.

I had already had blood tests postive for Lyme, and so my doctor switched me from oral antibiotics to IV Rocephin and over about 1 month have noticed a big difference.

Each person is different though. It is also important to make sure your electrolytes are good like Potassium. Eating bananas is good.

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Myco,

What has your LLMD said about this over time? Any ideas?

I know how scary that heart-crash can feel.

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Who knows? It was my first Lyme symptom in 94 or 95' other than swollen nodule on each side of my neck.

I have had irregular heartbeats that put me down on the ground. Very scary.

I have no idea what to do, but may resort to IV as I have never tried it. I feel physically very strong but still have cognitive issues and the heart stuff.

LLMD wants me on corocalm and something called cardionorma.

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i do occasionally now...had my last attack & er visit 4-29 from it

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I don't know if my symptoms were the same as yours. Mine were like constant palpitations. Many of them in a short period of time and they would go on for days. They really made me tired.

I had all the tests too, including the holter monitor for a week. I had fibrillations but I don't remember which kind. My doctor said the treatment was beta blockers but I was already on beta blockers so there was nothing to be done.

She said they were benign but when I looked them up the information indicated that they could be a precurser to something more serious.

Colloidal minerals cleared them up for me within a few weeks. I have to continue taking the minerals or they come back.

Minerals get used up with detox of borrelia toxins so it did make some sense to me.

I hope you get your problem solved.

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What colloidal minerals did you take Terry?
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Those heart symptoms sound like mine. Palpitations, skipped beats, chest pain, back pain, shoulder pain, left arm numbness, and shortness of breath.

I'm also another who checks out okay with all of the heart tests. The past few days haven't been too bad for me, but the couple of weeks before that were miserable at times.

My thyroid checks out okay, sometimes the levels are on the low end of the acceptable limits. I took Armour Thyroid for awhile but not sure it was doing much.

No cure for me, but I take magnesium, potassium, hawthorn berry, CoQ10, and fish oil on a regular basis. I've taken beta-blockers off and on, but I prefer to just avoid them if I can.

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futurebiotics colloidal trace minerals
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Don't know if you are female and don't know your age, but hormones can cause these problems. Especially just before menopause but at other times of life, too.

I had several trips to the ER, and wore a holter monitor a few times. Always showed PC's, tachycardia, but was told it was benign.

I was offered beta blockers but did not like the side effects, so I just took xanax when it was bad, not because stress caused the problem, but because the heart palpitations caused me to feel panicky, just as a natural side effect of the heart issue.

If a doctor tells you this is benign, then it probably is. But the same doctor who told me it was benign had also experienced the same kind of thing, and confessed to me how scary it was.

Consider hormones as a cause, and maybe try a little xanax or ativan if you can.

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Thanks. Male here in my early forties.

Ativan seems to help but these are not just little skips like I get once in a while, they are full blown heart beating fast and possibly irregular, pain in the left shoulder, break out in cold sweat, lower abdominal pain etc...Scary stuff. The occasional skips and runs I can deal with.

Seeing an electrophysiologist cardio Dr. early this week. I'm sure he will give me a holter. Have only captured short run of Afib once, we'll see if I am lucky to catch anything again. Never happens when I have the damn thing on!

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I'm with you on the holter monitor. I've had the holter twice and maybe the event twice. Never captures it like it should. In fact, my last 48 hour holter I was sure I was having some symptoms and it came back without a single PVC. I know I have them though because I can feel my pulse and then the big skip.

Ask about CardioNet. They have some new monitor that one of the cardio nurses was raving about. Unfortunately, my dumb insurance doesn't accept it yet because the technology is too new for them. I think it's a combination of a holter and an event monitor that you can carry with you for 10 days or 2 or 3 weeks.

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When I had the holter monitor, I asked to keep it. At that time, I was having constant heart issues, and I swear, they went away just while I wore it.

The event monitor caught some things, but the cardio was ho-hum about it. Scared me a lot, but.....not so interesting to him.

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Micheal,

What heart issues were you having? What meds made it go away? Is it babs?

Email me. Your mailbox is full!

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Myco , I used to get something very similar to what you described . It would happen alot at nite just as I was relaxing or about to fall asleep. Sometimes it would happen when I was just starting to do something physical like climb into my truck get started working (I am a contracter).

Break out in a cold sweat,abdominal pain,dizzyness,and a few times I did blackout.Racing heart ,palps, and when the event was over I would feel like I weighed 500lbs,very week for a few hours.

I can tell you that I've worn event monitors and halter monitors for up to 1 month with no luck.Zanex also helped me.

I have not had these severe events since being treated for babs with very strong dosing of malarone ,bactrum,artimisinin , although I do still get palps ,mainly at night .

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My idea. Stop the Art. I'd feel like I was going to pass out from it, like my heart was simply going to stop beating. I sat on the floor a few times after taking Art so I wouldn't have far to fall if I passed out but never did. When I told my doc, he said,"No more Art for you, not ever."
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Sounds like my A-fib. My heart symptoms began with a horrific babs herx about 9 yrs ago.

Why haven't they tried an anti-arrythmia drug on you????

I take verapamil .. last week when I ended up in the hospital they upped my dosage. I will likely get an angiogram and possibly a 3wk Holter monitor when I see my cardio in two weeks.

A-Fib is nothing to fool around with!!! I had a negative nuclear test too and an echo which shows my MVP with regurgitation.

The A-fib is still the main problem....get it taken care of!

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Myco... go get some Omega 3's! I buy mine at Vitacost... Carlson's brand.

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I have a very short run of Afib captured years ago on the holter but I remember those arrhytmias were very erratic when I had them. I could tell my pulse was all over the place. These are different. I took atenolol for many years but it did me no good. My heart rate is slow to begin with and it slowed it down even more. NOT GOOD.

I am seeing an EP Cardio Dr. this week.

I don't think it is the artemisia because I had these symptoms BEFORE I started the art and even before I started the antibiotics. BUT the antibiotics do stir it up, hopefully they are getting rid of this bug. We shall see.

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Do most here agree that heart symptoms are more due to Babesia than Lyme? I have sensed a direct relation of my irregular beats and spells to EATING/SWALLOWING or regurgitation. Seems to be directly related to an irritated vagal nerve at least in my case. This could also be Bartonella as that is GI related. Any ideas?
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I didn't get these kind of symptoms until I started art. They went away when I stopped it.
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i had 30 day monitor and it was the way to go...captured more runs and the nurses were like WOW no wonder your having trouble and so tired, but they were mainly PJC's which was JUNCTION not atrial or ventricular...apparently best ones to have...isnt that comforting LOL

they lasted extreme for about 3 months solid then settled now I get occasionally and occasoinally I get the other - cold sweat, etc...I have found when that happens it ends up being GI more than heart

I asked two ER dr's and my dr how you can tell the difference and they all said same thing - you cant if you have a big GI attack...symptoms can be same as heart attack...

So these scenarios may be GI not heart related at all

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A-fib is one thing to definitely look into.

But would also say that if this seems to happen after eating, you might have a hiatal hernia. This can be checked easily with an upper GI test.

I thought that was what I had, but I didn't. I started taking Mylanta-anti gas (the pink cherry chewables)and it was amazing, both my heart and breathing troubles got better. (An x-reay had been interpreted as extra air in my lungs, but I think it was in my GI tract).

This experience was separate from the PVS's/ tach. I had years ago.

None of this may be relevant, if you are really having A-fib or maybe you are having more than one thing going on at a time.

I will say that a lot of the symptoms you are having (dizzy, pain in left arm/shoulder etc.) can happen with harmless PVC's.

Being female, I figured out the pattern of problems with my cycle, and put an order in in advance for a monitor at a certain time of the month. Since you are a guy, you can't do that (!) but maybe you can identify a pattern of triggers and increase the likelihood of getting something on the holter monitor when you wear it, by scheduling it around that trigger or vulnerable time.

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I am also having very severe anxiety. Especially in the AM before I eat, but not hypoglycemic. Just feel like I am going to jump out of my skin.
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for awhile my heart would go crazy. it would feel like it was skipping beats, makes thunks and clunks so hard i thought i was going to pass out.

had stress tests, treadmills, heart monitors, you name it, all negative...

had a wonderful cardiac doctor and he couldn't figure it out.

but i was under extreme stress, both at work and at home....could have been that, don't know.

but since i started regular treatment, it's pretty much gone away.

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