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astriapage
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I went to a new doc tonight, and he said there was absolutely no ticks in GA.

I wanted to slap him!!!!

How stupid can you be????

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I grew up near Atlanta, and we were constantly pulling them off our dogs and ourselves.

That's the most ignorant thing I've ever heard!

Linky

[ 07-10-2009, 09:00 AM: Message edited by: linky123 ]

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astriapage
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Amen-this doc had me in tears when I left.

He asked why I moved so much, and I said since I was homeless I had to go where shelter was!!

He just had no right to be so mean!

I need a good doc who can help me and make me better-I had alot of hope in the doc tonight, but that has been shot out of the water!

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quote:
Originally posted by astriapage:
[qb] I went to a new doc tonight, and he said there was absolutely no ticks in GA.

I wanted to slap him!!!!

How stupid can you be????

[lol]

Oh...good grief! I was ready to pack up and move....you mean I got all excited for nothing?! LOL

that reminds me...hubby went to an eye doc once for a stye....doc says "it's an act of God".

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Ocean
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I'm sorry you got this from an ignorant doc.

Doc's in Ohio think there is no Lyme in Ohio, but they think it's down in the coastal southern states. Then I hear that doc's down from the southern coastal states say that there is Lyme in the Midwest, but not the south.

It's so ridiculous! I can't wait until the truth about Lyme comes out someday and these MD's will be forced to eat their words.

Funny how there are LOTS of people walking around with Multiple Sclerosis in Ohio, but no Lyme in Ohio at all!

Take care,
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Some doctors are so ignorant.

I waited months to see a specialist in the Northeast and he had the gall to tell me there were no ticks in Fall River, Massachusetts.

How ridiculous it that! Thank god I didn't settle for his answer and kept chugging along to find a good LLMD.

When I told her his response she was horrified. There are deer ticks in every state in the US. For a doctor to claim that there isn't is just pure ignorance.

I wonder if their response would be the same if they or someone in their family contracts lyme.

JT

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Yea -we ain't got it here ider! When this smacks them in the face they will be the fools not you.

Smile and know you are smarter than he is and he has a degree!

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The CDC has a link that posts the number of reported Lyme cases per state. Im sure there are many more unreported. It only goes up until 2007, but Lyme disease is on the rise:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/resources/ld_rptdLymeCasesbyState250908.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/resources/Lyme07Cases.pdf

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JamesNYC
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Doctors like these should be reported to their state medical boards for malpractice. The Lyme deniers use "complaints" to harass LLMDs so it is correct to report Lyme ignorant doctors!

My brother lives in S. Vermont. When he suggested to his internist Dr that his unknown mystery symptoms that were destroying his life might be Lyme, the Dr. said "We don't have too much Lyme up here." Can you F-ing believe that?

Maybe we should carry ticks around in our pockets and secretly stick them on these Drs so they can learn through personal experience!

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I would send him these. There are probably more but this is what I found on the first 1/2 page of pubmed abstracts.

1: J Parasitol. 2008 Dec;94(6):1351-6

Comparison of the spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi S. L. isolated from the tick Ixodes scapularis in southeastern and northeastern United States.

Oliver JH, Gao L, Lin T.
Georgia Southern University, Institute of Arthropodology and Parasitology, Statesboro, Georgia, USA. [email protected]

Thirty-five strains of the Lyme disease spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi sensu lato (B. burgdorferi s. l.) were isolated from the blacklegged tick vector Ixodes scapularis in South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Rhode Island.

They were characterized by PCR-restriction fragment length polymorphism (RFLP) analysis of rrf (5S)-rrl (23S) intergenic spacer amplicons. PCR-RFLP analysis indicated that the strains represented at least 3 genospecies (including a possible novel genospecies) and 4 different restriction patterns.

Thirty strains belonged to the genospecies B. burgdorferi sensu stricto (B. burgdorferi s. s.), 4 southern strains were identified as B. bissettii, and strain SCCH-5 from South Carolina exhibited MseI and DraI restriction patterns different from those of previously reported genospecies.

Complete sequences of rrf-rrl intergenic spacers from 14 southeastern and northeastern strains were determined and the phylogenetic relationships of these strains were compared.

The 14 strains clustered into 3 separate lineages on the basis of sequence analysis. These results were confirmed by phylogenetic analysis based on 16S rDNA sequence analysis.

PMID: 18576863 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


1: J Parasitol. 2004 Dec;90(6):1293-7.

Ectoparasites and other epifaunistic arthropods of sympatric cotton mice and golden mice: comparisons and implications for vector-borne zoonotic diseases.

Durden LA, Polur RN, Nims T, Banks CW, Oliver JH Jr.

Department of Biology and Institute of Arthropodology and Parasitology, Georgia Southern University, Statesboro, Georgia 30460-8042, USA. [email protected]

Ectoparasite and epifaunistic arthropod biodiversity and infestation parameters were compared between 2 sympatric small rodent species, the cotton mouse (Peromyscus gossypinus (Le Conte)) and golden mouse (Ochrotomys nuttalli (Harlan)), in southern Georgia from 1992 to 2003.

Because the cotton mouse is known to be a reservoir of more vector-borne zoonotic pathogens than the golden mouse, we hypothesized that it would be parasitized by more ectoparasites that are known to be vectors of these pathogens.

Cotton mice (n = 202) were parasitized by 19 species of arthropods, whereas golden mice (n = 46) were parasitized by 12 species. Eleven species of arthropods were recovered from both host species, whereas 7 were recorded only from cotton mice, and 1 species only from golden mice.

Infestation prevalences (percent of mice parasitized) were significantly higher for 1 species of arthropod (the tropical rat mite Ornithonyssus bacoti (Hirst)) infesting cotton mice and for 4 species (the flea Peromyscopsylla scotti Fox and the mites Glycyphagus hypudaei Koch, Androlaelaps casalis (Berlese), and Androlaelaps fahrenholzi (Berlese)) infesting golden mice.

Mean intensities (mean per infested mouse) were significantly higher for 2 species (the flea Orchopeas leucopus (Baker) and the blacklegged tick Ixodes scapularis Say) infesting cotton mice and for 2 species (G. hypudaei and A. fahrenholzi) infesting golden mice.

Ectoparasites that are known to be vectors of zoonotic pathogens were significantly more common on cotton mice than on golden mice. These ectoparasites included the rhopalopsyllid flea Polygenis gwyni (Fox), a vector of the agent of murine typhus; I. scapularis, the principal vector of the agents of Lyme borreliosis, human granulocytic ehrlichiosis, and human babesiosis; and O. bacoti, a laboratory vector of several zoonotic pathogens.

However, 2 species of ixodid ticks that can transmit zoonotic pathogens were recovered from both host species. These were the American dog tick Dermacentor variabilis (Say), the principal vector of the agent of Rocky Mountain spotted fever in eastern North America, and Ixodes minor Neumann, an enzootic vector of the agent of Lyme borreliosis.

Overall, the cotton mouse was parasitized by significantly more ectoparasites that are known to be vectors of zoonotic pathogens than was the golden mouse. These data support the hypothesis that the cotton mouse has greater epidemiological importance for zoonotic vector-borne pathogen transmission than does the golden mouse.

PMID: 15715219 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Hhahahahahah, oh boy. You just have to laugh or you might cry.

This is exactly the kind of story that belongs in the Hall of Fame thread:

"What's the most outrageous thing a doctor has actually said to you?"

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/9785

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quote:
Originally posted by jtavares76:
Some doctors are so ignorant.

I waited months to see a specialist in the Northeast and he had the gall to tell me there were no ticks in Fall River, Massachusetts.

How ridiculous it that! Thank god I didn't settle for his answer and kept chugging along to find a good LLMD.

When I told her his response she was horrified. There are deer ticks in every state in the US. For a doctor to claim that there isn't is just pure ignorance.

I wonder if their response would be the same if they or someone in their family contracts lyme.

JT

Well, there are ticks in the shrubs that line the sidewalks on my street, in front of my complex.

In the City. The most-densely populated city in New England, and 17th most-densely populated in the country.

You and I must have some sort of conversation disorder, along with other residents of our cities. As we're seeing ticks where there are none.

Sorry, I'm feeling sarcastic today.

The # of Rodents (and birds)is actually the culprit with the tick population in my community.

However:

Doe, a deer captured and removed from Union Square in Somerville

http://www.wickedlocal.com/somerville/news/x737358233/Doe-a-deer-captured-and-removed-from-Union-Square?popular=true

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Yeah, right... Ticks are worldwide. It sure doesnt bode well when your doctor, who is supposed to be an expert, spouts off rubbish like that. Next time you find one, keep it and put in a jar. Then when you see that doctor again, plop it on them and ask them what that is...heh... Sorry, but Ive always wanted to do that to those drs. I live in Wisc and seems I dont go a month without seeing 1-2 of them on the dog or crawling in the house...ick... No wonder I want to relocate south!! Perhaps to Georgia... I hear they dont have any...heh


http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/ld_rptdLymeCasesbyState.htm

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