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namayn
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Hello, I am so glad to find this site. My 8 year old daughter developed a bulls eye rash around what we believe to be a mosquito bite. This occurred 3 days after hiking in the forest. It is about 2 inches in diameter and is fading today-day 4. I took her to her pediatrician, he assured me that lyme disease takes 3 weeks to develop into a rash, and not to worry since there was no tick observed. He said it was merely a histamine reaction. She has other bites, none which formed this pink ring.
I have read the CDC site's statement that the rash appears in 3 to 30 days, so now I am concerned.
Should I be worried? Can anyone recommend a local doctor? I am in Lakewood, Wa.
Thank you so much.

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Pinelady
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Please post seeking Dr. in xxxx in Seeking Dr.

Flash. Yes she needs treatment now.

Get pics of

rash!

Very important. I would not give up on a bulls eye

rash until I got treatment.

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Suspected Lyme 07 Test neg One band migrating in IgG region
unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
IgM neg pos
31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
DX:Neuroborreliosis

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Starfall1969
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I agree with Pinelady--

regardless of what your doctor says, a bullseye rash = Lyme disease, and you are right to be concerned.

It is important to get treatment as soon as you can to avoid the hell many on here are going through because of undiagnosed Lyme and coinfections.

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Her doctor is ignorant. Find yourself a LLMD as others suggested.

Lyme rashes do NOT have to have a ring.

She does not need to even have a rash to have the disease.

Ticks anesthetize their hosts -- so you do not feel a bite until after-the-fact.

and then, it is after-the-fact, the tick is gone/dropped off.

and they are so tiny that it is mere luck to even observe them.

Get her to treatment as soon as you can.
and, as Pinelady stated, take pictures of her rashes!

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sixgoofykids
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Get her to another doctor asap. Lyme specialists have waiting lists, so take her to a walk in clinic for immediate meds ... but be sure to see a Lyme doc to be sure it doesn't go chronic.

TAKE PICTURES OF THE RASH!

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welcome namayn [Smile]

check your profile above for my pm to you of nearest KIDS LLMD to you so you can start making an appt. TODAY!!

meanwhile get her on proper meds explained below NOW *************************************************


yes, take photos of rash from different angles using a coin or $1 bill to show the actual size of it with TODAY'S DATED NEWSPAPER CLEARING SHOWING DATE. it may be needed later on.

print off my 2nd link below on DOSAGES/MEDS FOR KIDS/ADULTS!!! get her on that NOW...NO EXCUSES!!

your daughter CAN BE CURED if given correct meds/DOSAGES and takes antibiotics for 3 months; 2 months showing NO SYMPTOMS BEFORE STOPPING ANTIBIOTICS!!

post in seeking dr. forum;

SUBJECT: 8 YR. OLD DAUGHTER NEEDING KIDS LLMD IN WASHINGTON STATE.

copy your comments from above and paste to a NEW post there with the above.


but 1st, please break up your comments into SHORTER PARAGRAPHS and double space between each one for us severe neuro lyme folks like me [Smile] use my guideliens below; big thanks!!


go to lower left hand side and mark box to receive all replies ok [Smile] send

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Welcome; I'm so glad you found us!! You've come to the right place for education and support!


lyme disease and CO-INFECTION symptoms lists .... check it out..
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/81386


Dr. Burrascano's most recent "Diagnostic Hints and 2008 Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses" .
http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html


PAGES 17-19 discuss ADULT & KIDS MED TREATMENTS!
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/80440?#000006
Dr. B's Supplement List
http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf


this link, making the most of your LLMD visit, may help you also.
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=020605#000005

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/77378

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TREEPATROL'S NEWBIE LEARNING LINKS ... over 1000 links of good info and guidelines galore!! MUST SKIM & READ !!

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/29917
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Betty's suggested POSTING GUIDELINES . many of us have neuro lyme where we can NOT read long solid block text and be able to comprehend and read it as is.

please edit your post by CLICKING PAPER/PENCIL ICON to right of your name. that opens up BOTH subject line and body text.

now please break up your WORDY SENTENCES into one sentence paragraphs. Then hit ENTER KEY ``TWICE`` after each paragraph; we need that space for comprehension.

then go to left hand corner and mark box to receive ALL REPLIES, and click EDIT SEND

we thank you for helping us; [Wink] otherwise, we will SOB, SCROLL ON BY, since we can't read to help you. If I see posts like this, I SOB them; to hard on me.
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I found Turn the Corner Foundation through the website for the Under Our Skin movie. Here is the link for their website. At the bottom of their webpage there is a link to click if you are interested in getting help finding and LLMD.

http://turnthecorner.org/lyme-disease-quick-facts.htm

I emailed them for help and got a response with the names of over 10 LLMDS in two states in less than a days time. What an incredible blessing! Thought I'd pass it on.
By member Aimee, 7.11.09
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People seeking doctors might be able to get help from their state online information and support group. Nearly 3,400 people belong to state groups. Some of the groups are small but more than 20 of them have 50 or more people and seven have over 100.

To find your state group, go to
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/statenamelyme

Type your state name and lyme as one word, like this -
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/newyorklyme

South Carolina is the only state that needs a hyphen between the statename
and lyme, e.g. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/southcarolina-lyme

The groups are moderated and you have to apply. Most don't allow doctor names, but once on the group, you can ask for doctors in a certain area and ask people to email you privately.
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This explains the medical politics around lyme WHY you need an ILADS-educated or ILADS-member LLMD (and there are also some ILADS-member LL NDs (naturopathic doctors):

www.clinicaladvisor.com/Controversy-continues-to-fuel-the-Lyme-War/article/117160/


TESTING

You should also be evaluated for coinfections. Not all tests are great in that regard, either, but a good LLMD can evaluate you and then guide you in testing. One of the top labs is:

www.igenex.com IGENEX

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There are a couple other good labs for certain tests: Fry; Clognen; Focus. Your LLMD will know.
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VERY important to read - even BEFORE testing:

Dr C's Western Blot explanation is discussed here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=042077

"With most infections, your immune system first forms IgM antibodies, then in about 2 to 4 weeks, you see IgG antibodies. In some infections, IgG antibodies may be detectable for years.

Because Borrelia burgdorferi is a chronic persistent infection that may last for decades, you would think patients with chronic symptoms would have positive IgG Western blots.

But actually, more IgM blots are positive in chronic borreliosis than IgG. Every time Borrelia burgdorferi reproduces itself, it may stimulate the immune system to form new IgM antibodies.

Some patients have both IgG and IgM blots positive. But if either the IgG or IgM blot is positive, overall it is a positive result.

Response to antibiotics is the same if either is positive, or both. Some antibodies against the borrelia are given more significance if they are IgG versus IgM, or vice versa.

Since this is a chronic persistent infection, this does not make a lot of sense to me. A newly formed Borrelia burgdorferi should have the same antigen parts as the previous bacteria that produced it.

But anyway, from my clinical experience, these borrelia associated bands usually predict a clinical change in symptoms with antibiotics, regardless of whether they are IgG or IgM."
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TREATMENT *** www.ilads.org

ILADS
The International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society (ILADS) provides a forum for health science professionals to share their wealth of knowledge regarding the management of Lyme and associated diseases.


UNDER OUR SKIN dvd LYME DISEASE documentary,
www.lymediseasefilm.com
go to this site to view trailer of UNDER OUR SKIN 5 min. Clip! Premiering 2008!! on big screen 09 in 10 LARGE CITIES ONLY!

HERXING REACTIONS ... understanding them!
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=041517


please get a western blot igm and igg blood test drawn LOCALLY on a mon. or tues. and sent to the below ok! all details are there.

IGENEX , CALIF. BLOOD TESTINGS ...check current $$!

OCT. 2008 PRICE LIST ... info only!! Showing what tests they do. PRICES HAVE GONE UP ON SOME!

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/78648?#000003


* Please note: What you are about to read below is NOT meant to scare any of you from any lyme testings done; it's meant to be informed PRIOR to going into having various tests done and then be told what the costs will be!
* Mine was sticker $$ shock on various testings done by my 2nd LLMD/new to me in 4=06. Those tests/results are found elsewhere in my links/advise.

* Igenex's charges for these below things cost $905, which I figured up the last 2 days for 2 other folks includes

* The below tests were done for ME; you MAY NOT NEED them all ok! :

* western blot IGM & IGG, this is MANDATORY for you which costs $200 total for 2 tests done; 6.09 same prices still.
*
* *******************************************************
* OPTIONAL ONES ARE:

* co-infection panel for YOUR AREA OF COUNTRY;
* PCR WHOLE BLOOD...this is what my LLMD ordered!

It's PREPAY! unless you are on medicare; IGX will file the
paperwork & it's FREE to you.

go to www.igenex.com and read over their info.
Prices go up twice a year: MAY and NOVEMBER!!

*
* have blood drawn MON. or TUES. only; you don't want your blood sitting in post office over the weekend; will ruin the results!

* Also, call 1-800.832.3200 for CURRENT PRICES!
* They will also send you a ``test kit'' with their required form, all the test vials, & box to ship it in! OUT OF USA will take longer to receive!

* You need to DOWNLOAD IGENEX's required form.******************************************************
*
* MD, DO ,ND, AC, DC are all fine** must sign, date, and show DIAGNOSIS CODE on there why he's ordering the test.

Make sure you show to FAX results and SNAIL MAIL PAPER COPY! My results were lost for 4-5 weeks! Bettyg 
*
* When you get your results, please post them in MEDICAL;
* Post ONLY the POSITIVE & IND ones ....
not the negative ones!

GET COPIES OF ALL YOUR SPECIAL BLOOD TESTS: western blot igm/igg and/or co-infection tests always!!

OVERSEAS INSTRUCTIONS FOR SENDING TO IGENEX/FRY LABORATORY! 2-23-08

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=063751


* Also, look for post by LYMETOO/TUTU on DR. C's (Missouri) explanation of the western blot IGM & IGG numbers, below!

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=042077

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AmyPW8
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Just a note, my daughter got an EM rash the morning after having a tick attached for a few minutes. Get to an LLMD!

Yes they have been cases of EM rash in mosquito bites!

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Amy

Diagnosed April 29, 2007.

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Just a note, my daughter got an EM rash the morning after having a tick attached for a few minutes. Get to an LLMD!

Yes there has been cases of EM rash in mosquito bites!

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Amy

Diagnosed April 29, 2007.

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Jill E.
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My father got Lyme from a mosquito bite - got the bulls-eye on his arm, exactly in the spot he saw the mosquito land on him. This was in San Diego.

I know one patient who goes to the same Lyme doctor I do who got Lyme and other co-infections from a mosquito bite on the East Coast.

Please take it seriously. The doctors will likely say cellulitis or there is no Lyme Disease here or you can't get it from a mosquito, but please don't let them talk you out of what needs to be done.

If you look in even mainstream medical information, a bulls-eye rash is considered diagnostic of Lyme Disease and treatment should be started even before testing is completed.

Jill

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We believe we were infected with mosquitoes, and not ticks. Seek a Lyme Literated Doctor.
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My heart goes out to you. Treat fast, treat long, treat deep.

Kick it now so you can get it out.

As a mom of two kids with congenital lyme (one who had an obvious reinfection at some point) I wouldn't hesitate to treat as a "precaution" without any confirmed lab tests.

I would NEVER wait 3 -4 weeks to see if symptoms appear.

Hang in there. Keep checking in with this site. Way to go MOM!

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My heart goes out to you. Treat fast, treat long, treat deep.

Kick it now so you can get it out.

As a mom of two kids with congenital lyme (one who had an obvious reinfection at some point) I wouldn't hesitate to treat as a "precaution" without any confirmed lab tests.

I would NEVER wait 3 -4 weeks to see if symptoms appear.

Hang in there. Keep checking in with this site. Way to go MOM!

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