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pigwit
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Apparently all vaccinations do damage to various organs creating lack of oxygen and other functions. It seems like this goes right along with making Lyme disease more debilating.

Check out www.rense.com/general87/avoid.htm

It is long and I had to read it slowly.

I have Bell's palsy and thought many of the people I see with one side of their mouth drooping might have Lyme. I may be wrong about that. It might also be a sign of the damage from vaccines.

Maybe the biggest plague of all is the harm from vaccines. I am not discounting the harm from Lyme disease, but they work together to do even more harm.

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I dont buy vaccine hysteria. I think timerosal needs to be out and they need review of other compounds used for preservation, but otherwise idea behind vaccines is solid.
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A new documentary film about the potential dangers of vaccination has been released. It's entitled "Shots in the Dark".


http://films.nfb.ca/shots-in-the-dark/film-en.php

http://www.nfb.ca/film/shots_in_the_dark_trailer/


Here's an interesting website about vaccines.

http://www.trackingvaccinations.com/

http://www.trackingvaccinations.com/allfiles/the-vaccines.htm


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IMHO, thimerasol, adjuvants, and preservatives are just the tip of the iceburg.

Yes, the idea behind vaccines is solid; after all, orthodox medicine stole the idea from the homeopaths. But then they proceeded to 'improve' the process so they could patent it, and ended up perverting it in the end.

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Anybody seen the list and descriptions of what else is in vaccines besides mercury ?

Tons of ugly chemicals !

And these are for infants and babies ?

The SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) rate in Japan is almost zero. US loses thousands of young ones per year. Japan does no vaccinations until age 2. We do them here on day one.

Lets go to Autism. Amish rate is almost zero. Amish do not get vaccinated. Excellent article by a Kennedy (Ted's son if I recall correctly).

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i juust read babies in usa are scheduled to get 36 vaccines before they are 12 months old

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Vaccines scare me! I think it could make us relapse... or get worse!

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I had a DPT "booster" (why'd I let them talk me into that?!) last Dec. and declined rapidly after that. Still fighting my way out of the aftermath. Never again.
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Vaccines allow every pathogen to thrive. That and damage neurons, kill white blood cells, dis-regulate our entire body and even kill people on the spot. I got sick due to the flu shot and have been disabled ever since.
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Pyorka... I'm so sorry you were disabled by a flu shot!

Then you have Lyme on top of that, I presume?

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I am not a Medical Dr. but I do know that my daughter had a severe Lyme attack with a second optic neuritis(blindness) after having innoculations prior to a missions trip that she never was able to go on. Instead she was hospitalized, treated with solumedrol, a steroid, which we know makes it harder to treat Lyme. Many years later, She was told by her new MS Specialist (She developed true MS too) that she should NEVER HAVE ANY FLU OR VIRUS SHOTS DUE TO THE IMMUNE RESPONSE AND HAVING A SUPPRESSED IMMUNE SYSTEM.
After all I havr read, I would not personally take the flu shot, then again each has to decide.

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Lots of data online at the National Vaccine Information Center (nvic.org) run by ladies whose children were damaged by vaccines.

Best,

Cass A

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Sort of off topic but I have to vent. Furious today.

My fiance's family has to connections to a certain major, very well-known hospital in MD. Because their company donates large sums of money to them they have their own personal concierge to the facilities there.

They begged me to see if we could utilize their services, so to appease them (knowing they wouldn't be willing to follow the protocol I've chosen to follow) I went ahead and sent my son's medical records and spoke with the liason and the head of pediatrics. It went no where of course and we parted politely.

Then the liason had the nerve to tell my future father-in-law that the reason she thinks my son's Lyme case is so extreme is because his immune system must be weak because he hasn't been vaccinated! Not only was it a completely unethical breach of confidentiality it was the most ignorant thing she could have said. And he ate it up. Great.

Not only am I the crazy future daughter-in-law who doesn't buy what his hospital prescribes, I'm also the crazy future-daughter-in-law who doesn't vaccinate my child.

I am FUMING today!!!

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I vaccinated my child and this is the damage I mostly regret having done to her.

She developed allergies to many things by the age of 10 months. It was hard to find anything she could eat without developing a rash, tummy ache, etc.

When she was first bitten, she fell sick in the same day of the bite. It took many months to get her out. Every time she gets an infection, she'll get it soo strong, as though her immune system is not functioning.

Statistics are clear: babies who get vaccines will develop more allergies than non-vaccinated babies.

Vaccines do seem to contribute to messing up the immune system.

If I could do everything again, I wouldn't give her ANY vaccines until the age of 2. Then I would probably only give her polio vaccine (or the homeopathic version).

And maybe tetanus. But I wouldn't give her the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine FOR SURE, like I did. It was a stupid thing to do.

Vaccines are not good for the immune system. And borrelia is the master of playing around with our immune system, to go unnoticed by it.

So put the two together, they don't make a good song.

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Boy, that's a tough spot to be in, Aleigh.

I'm convinced that my dog has 'vaccine damage'. I was a good little pet owner and vaccinated like clockwork every year for this and that....

If I'd only known THEN what I know NOW....

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Aleigh,

I'm so sorry. I got more lyme sick after my tetanus shot in 1997. The only reason my kids don't have autism, I believe (sensory issues only) is because they aren't immunized.

My nephew is vaccine damaged.

Vent away. We get you here, and I'm so sorry those people are ignorant. Family is so hard to handle.

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I deteriorated after a tetanus booster shot 2 1/2 years ago.

After the vaccination, it felt like I had a marble under my skin. The lump seems almost gone now, but I still have mild pain when I press on my arm where they did the shot.

About a year after the shot, I had an abnormal MRI of my brain and I was recently asked if wanted a spinal tap to determine if I have MS. I said no.

My current efforts to improve health includes a change of enviroment (on the coast of Ecuador).

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We had a healthy son when he was vaccinated with DPT at seven weeks of age, at 10 o'clock in the morning. By 7 o'clock that night I found him dead in his crib.

I have recently been told by the people that run Allergie Immun that most children start with allergic reactions shortly after receiving vaccinations. That is usually when the parents start calling for the allergy treatment which fortunately works very well and very quickly for children.

Take care.

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So sorry for your loss GiGi.

I know a man who spent 7 years in prison for the

same thing that happened to your son. It is most

prevalent in boys. But it happens in girls also.

A Shot in the Dark was a book written over 10

years ago. Not much has changed except parents

are starting to listen as the incidences

increase, which can be far reaching from

asthma/allergies to death. Systematically it is

as wide and variable as lyme.

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quote:
A Shot in the Dark was a book written over 10 years ago. Not much has changed except parents are starting to listen as the incidences
increase, which can be far reaching from
asthma/allergies to death. Systematically it is
as wide and variable as lyme.

Not much as changed except there is no thimerosal in most of the vaccines except the flu shot. I am not sure I believe the thimerosal theory. Since they removed it the rates of autism have increased not decreased. Our pediatrician uses an off brand of vaccines that our insurance wouldn't cover because she knows them to be the most chemical free. She doesn't really believe that vaccinations cause autism, but does it for the parents state of well being.  

I believe it is the amount of vaccines that a child gets and the organisms themselves that are causing the problems. How does anyone know how someones body is going to react after 20 different half dead parasites are injected into their bodies within the span of 18 months at such a young age? I couldn't imagine not giving my child a vaccination and they die from the measles. Talk about the guilt of killing your child for the rest of your life.

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Duke when you get 3 children in your family who

have had reactions then tell me about possible guilt. Doc's are lucky they send them home and when

you call to say they are screaming bloody murder

for hours, to put them in a room alone and shut

the door and let them cry. They are just throwing

a temper tantrum. And then you realize the head

banging is from pain and there is no one there to

help. Or one breaks out in a

measles rash and high fever and the doc says oh

no its not measles it is measles like. Or the DPT

give them a 103 fever and you tell them on next

visit and they say OH we won't give them the P

part anymore. When will they listen. They haven't

since Shot in the Dark became published and with

autism at a rate of 1 in 5 in at least one states they

still haven't figured it out. Funny they are more

worried about obesity in the US than death and

brain damage. Which came first? Did you know that in one study half

of a day care participants received the Chicken

pox vaccine and the other half didn't yet all

came down with the chicken pox. Go figure.

By the way it is not made with an egg. No I

worry more about what they put in that jab to

give my kid than what my kid can catch naturally.

http://www.wane.com/dpp/health/healthy_living/wwlp_ap_health_poliovaccinemutatesandcauseshavoc_200908141134_2764854

We don't know why we have epidemics of Aids, Lyme or Flu. Or how they get started! But I do know I don't want anything they can give me!

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I have to take shots of Enbrel because my lyme progressed into rheum. arthritis. My doctor is ILADS as well as a rheumatologist and she and I both tried to stop the inflammation without Enbrel (immune suppressor) but after my left wrist was damaged by the inflammation, we had no other choice. Enbrel is much better to use than a steroid and I do very well on just 1/2 the lowest recommended dose.

I'm telling this because initially I ordered the ready to use shots and it burned like you were injecting acid into me. I screamed at the top of my lungs and my husband (who gives me the shots) was traumatized.

I burst out crying and saying no way was I going to be able to endure these shots. I ran to the internet and typed in "Enbrel hurts". Thank God for the internet. Up came a bunch of people's experiences and their solution.

It seems the ready to use shots have a preservative in them to which some people are reactive. You can buy the powder and mix it yourself which has no preservative in it and doesn't hurt.

I count myself lucky to have had that reaction. Otherwise, I would not have known I was injecting a preservative into my body. I am one who eats whole fresh foods to avoid preservatives in my diet.

I shudder to think what toxins my meds are giving me.

No way on the vaccines.

For those who do not yet know, the CDC has sent a letter to all neurosurgeons (amazing they don't send it to family physicians) warning them to expect an increase in nerve disorders from the H1N1 shot. Guillian Barre Syndrome being the most prevelant disease to watch out for.

And congress has a bill on the table now to make this vaccine mandatory!!!!!

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Pinelady,

Sorry to hear about what happened to your children after the vaccinations. Nothing bad happened to my kids after the vaccination. If 3% of the people had a bad effect and some side effects from abx treating meningitis should we not use abx on anybody?

Chicken pox vaccine even says it is not 100% effective. Who cares its not fatal. Here are some facts; measles kill children, and the measles vaccination is effective against it. Measles are on the rise because of so many parents refusing their kids vaccination.

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Dr. K. has a good sentence on vaccinations. They are sometimes good for the group but are bad for the individual person.

Go figure what to do.

I would rather have my child having measles, than vaccinate. Everyone had that when I was kid, including myself.

And know that there are alternative treatments, not only homeopathy, but also herbal treatments, for example.

And don't consider that a joke, as I'm pretty sure dr. K. didn't vaccinate his daughter and fought some kids' diseases with fully natural treatments.

A flu can kill too, and why not vaccinating then all children against all flus? They usually kill children and the old, right?

If the logic is: once there's a preventative treatment against a deadly disease, I would do that to protect my child to have a clear conscience.

Well, there are preventative treatments against some deadly flu.

Would you vaccinate your children every year against the flu so that you can have your conscience clear?

Would you vaccinate against the H1N1?

Some parents have done that yearly shot and many stopped on the first shot. I know quite a few. they stopped after their children fell literally sick for days after the flu shot.

Maybe your child won't react on the first, second, fifth shot, but you can bet after about 20 flu shots, everyone reacts in a way or another! Just read the list of ingredients inside each vaccination.

I mean, you can do what you want to do. Just not force everyone to do what you think it's best.

Measles could be on the rise but only for the non-vaccinated children, so why do parents who vaccinate worry?

Many flus around because not everyone vaccinate. The logic is the same. Both diseases kill children.

Did you vaccinate your children against the flu every year?

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True, I don't vaccinate my kids for the flu. I have never gotten the flu vaccination and have been fine for forty years. I hear the people I know who get the shot wind up getting sick. Others get the flu anyway, the shot is far from perfect. As for the measles I am not worried about my kids. I am worried about the other kids who don't have the vaccination. A child who is vaccinated can carry measles just not get sick themself.
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"For those who do not yet know, the CDC has sent a letter to all neurosurgeons (amazing they don't send it to family physicians) warning them to expect an increase in nerve disorders from the H1N1 shot. Guillian Barre Syndrome being the most prevelant disease to watch out for.

And congress has a bill on the table now to make this vaccine mandatory!!!!!"

THIS WHOLE THING IS SO SICK!!!!!

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Ip, I haven't heard anything about a bill in congress to make this vaccination mandatory except here at LymeNet.

Do you have more information about this?

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