METALLlC BLUE
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I wanted to start a thread on this subject which involved no debate. I have tried to organize the frequencies I see used most often later in the thread as well as those written by authors regarding Rife Therapy.
I also listed notes from Bryan Rosner's book "When Antibiotics Fail, Lyme Disease And Rife Machines"
These frequencies are measured in Hz. Some of these have "Note" next to them. If the frequencies are in a range, such a 200 thru 220, then that means you can use 200, 201, 202 etc, but the "Noted" number is the one a patient has previously mentioned using in that range.
At the bottom I have listed frequencies that have consistently shown up "over and over" in reports of patients who have reported huge improvements from Lyme Disease as a direct result. At the very bottom you'll also find co-infection frequencies and a full comprehensive list of frequencies of hundreds of diseases.
Frequencies noted as effective by the general Lyme Disease community
For those who wish to keep a diary as they treat, you may use the template below.
It is helpful if you list frequencies you feel helped you in this thread. You can rate the frequency 1-10 (with 10 being incredibly useful and strong) or another frequency that is less effective but still worth mention at perhap a 5.
It is also useful to list which frequencies you use per session and the interval of time between switching from on to the next in that session.
Please list the disease, and the frequency, as well as the duration you've been using it, and the dose, and interval between each dose during each session (i.e. 880 - interval 1 minute - 612).
Feel free to use this suggested template below for journal entries if you are keeping track of your progress.
Lyme Disease
Frequency: 612 (Rating 10)
Dose: Initially 30 seconds, and increased in
15 second increments with each new session.
Duration: Frequency used bi-weekly for 6 months so far.
Interval: 612 (10), rest 1 minute, start 880[8]
Effective: 612 lost potency after 6 months, switched to 1224(6).
If a different frequency requires a different dose per session please note that. Also, please indicate whether you plug and plug frequencies -- meaning exchanging one for an entirely new one every other week or such.
If a frequency begins to lose effect, please list those as well.
Special Note Last but not least, please indicate which machine you have, and whether it's AC, DC, direct contact, or radiant and so forth.
Update: It is thought that lower powered machines, such as the EMEM may work more effectively in the higher frequency ranges given Dr. Rife attempted to go as high as possible. We have been suggesting that people try these as part of their therapy after they've tried the conventional numbers, such as 610, or 432 for Lyme: Take the regular frequencies below on the list, and either multiply by 2 for as long as you wish until you reach your machines highest capacity, or, simply add the numbers together of a particular frequency, such as 610 + 610 = 1220 + 610 + 610 and onward. These higher harmonics may be more effective, we do not know for certain.
[ 02-17-2011, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: METALLlC BLUE ]
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612 is the best frequency we use. that is a ten for sure.
You bring up a good point, in that certain harmonics of 612 may work better. We have used 306 which is a lower harmonic of 612. It never worked as well as 612. Your higher harmonic of 1224 worked better than 612. To try a higher harmonic simply keep doubling the frequency 306, 612, 1224 are all different harmonics of the same frequency.
The second most effective is 432 hz. It is about a nine in effectiveness. Other than that, I just ran all of the listed frequencies in the CAFL. I do not know which are effective or not.
I only have really tested frequencies in the Mhz range designed to affect the DNA of Lyme. These are more experimental and do not appear to work at lower ranges of frequencies. They do affect the bacteria, but that does not mean they are damaging or killing them. I will know more over time.
Dan
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- Thanks, you two. I am finally getting the heavy metal treatment part in place (as I understand goes hand in hand) so I will start my EMEM5a rife treatment this week.
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METALLlC BLUE
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quote: DBergy 612 is the best frequency we use. that is a ten for sure.
You bring up a good point, in that certain harmonics of 612 may work better. We have used 306 which is a lower harmonic of 612. It never worked as well as 612. Your higher harmonic of 1224 worked better than 612. To try a higher harmonic simply keep doubling the frequency 306, 612, 1224 are all different harmonics of the same frequency.
The second most effective is 432 hz. It is about a nine in effectiveness. Other than that, I just ran all of the listed frequencies in the CAFL. I do not know which are effective or not.
I only have really tested frequencies in the Mhz range designed to affect the DNA of Lyme. These are more experimental and do not appear to work at lower ranges of frequencies. They do affect the bacteria, but that does not mean they are damaging or killing them. I will know more over time.
Dan
Can you fill in this information?
# Dose: Initially 30 seconds, and increased in
# 15 second increments with each new session.
# Duration: Frequency used bi-weekly for 6 months so far.
# Interval: 612 (10), rest 1 minute, start 880[8]
# Effective: 612 lost potency after 6 months, switched to 1224(6).
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I think we initially went two minutes but in retrospect that was too much. We were some of the first to use this method so it was all learning curve. Later on, five minutes was the standard time.
We have been treating this way for about four years with some breaks to try other methods.
We did not use a specific time frame, when she recovered from treatment, we treated again. This was about a week and sometimes longer in the beginning. We also just ran all of the CAFL frequencies eight at a time. We did not use specific frequencies until later on.
612 is always effective if there is spirochetes available to hit. I suspect if another frequency is producing a reaction, it may be hitting another form of Lyme, but that is speculative.
Dan
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I found it pretty overwhelming to select correct frequencies. True, almost everyone says 610 and 432, so those are pretty easy to choose. I also had a very trusted LLMD suggest 612 and 690 to me.
I have tested positive for babs so I do babs frequencies regularly, and had at least one dr tell me that I could have BLO or erlichia, so I occaisionally try to blast those frequencies.
I had so many to work with off of the CAFL and Nynah Sylver's book and Rosner's book and the online sources. FInally, I sat down and went through every frequency. If it made me "feel something" I gave it a check. I know that is COMPLETELY unscientific, but for example, 432 gave me joint pain immediately, some babs frequencies made my head buzz.
Now I regularly do those with checks for 30 seconds. I do a rife session 1 time per week- usually on a friday night so I can spend the weekend herxing.
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It's too bad we can't put a microscope in our vein/arterty, project the imagine on a 88" flat screen and run each frequency. Shouldn't we see the bugs running like no tomorrow if effective? Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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I need to write all these down! Thanks for the babesia freq's. I try to only run the ones above a hundred.
I heard those under 100 could negatively affect the heart....?
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yeah! Great Thread. Thanks. Looks like there is a few of us that may be starting Rife this week?
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Feeling a frequency actually has turned out to be an excellent indicator of an effective frequency.
I rely on reaction to determine if a frequency is working or not. I am exposed to the same frequencies that my wife uses for Lyme, yet I feel nothing. When we started using the frequencies calculated to affect the DNA of Lyme in the lower Hz ranges they had little or no effect. Since these frequencies do have some evidence of being accurate as far as a few other pathogens are concerned, I did not know why they appeared to be ineffective when she used them.
I knew they were based on a far higher range of frequencies, and were reduced so any machine could run them. Once I converted them to a higher Mhz range, I started to get reactions consistent with other effective frequencies.
I really would be in the dark without the reaction to the frequencies. The reason I believe that this is an accurate indicator, is because a normal non-Lyme person will never feel these same frequencies. I never have felt them, although I have felt some other ones such as E-Coli, and Streptococcus.
Most produce no reaction. H-Pylori frequency of 676 produced immediate relief for my burning stomach problem, but I felt nothing while running them. This effect only lasted about 36 hours and then the symptoms would come back.
At first I thought it was a coincidence or placebo effect. The problem with that theory was that it would work every time, and other frequencies did not produce any relief.
Finally I found out that it has to be used for 6 or 7 days in a row to permanently eliminate the bacteria from the stomach. Once I did that, my problem was resolved permanently.
At that point, I knew that this treatment method was both effective, and repeatable. I eliminated placebo effect and coincidence.
I still do not know the full capability of this method, but I know it works for damaging Lyme spirochetes and H-pylori bacterium. Both have a Spirochete form, and that may be why it works for both. The physical weakness of spirochetes may make them very susceptible to damage from the correct resonant frequency.
Dan
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Hi Rife users. I have a question.
Have you had success in using or finding frequencies that give a positive affect such as on Pain. Or one that helps you sleep better? Or one that helps you detox ?
I am looking to try the Rife and I have the BCX Ultra. I do not want to jump into killing things off right off the bat but want to use the machine and get used to it and test it out.
I am looking to find some frequencies that Might be able to look for some positive reactions and not herx at this time.
I am not in a place ready for that quite yet..
Anyway Let me know thanks
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I have used 2 Hz to try to reduce swelling in joints. Since this has not occured often, I never could determine how well it worked.
Sometimes, with Lyme just being exposed to a frequency can stir things up, so I generally recommend using other methods to detox. Most have heard of people that can't be at their computer long, or flouresent lights bother them.
But if you are running Lyme frequencies anyway, then it is fine to try the pain reducing frequencies, or whatever, after your treatment.
I do not know if, or how well these other frequencies work.
Dan
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Anyone know what the signifigence of frequency 719 is?
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Hi Mike Are you doing the Rife? how is it going?
I found some protocols for Liver and Kidney support and overall detox.
I was wondering if you tried any of those?
And if so what was the reaction? Do you still feel some sort of herx?
I did a program for liver support and have not noticed anything but.. well. ia m herxing. but already was when i did it.
Maybe the idea of using rife to help with detxo or liver support etc are not realistic?
But on the lists I find it is supposed to help in those areas too and in lymph drainage and all sorts of things..
What has your or anyone elses experiences been in that area?
I got to find some extra detox support somewhere that will help me in this area.
But at the same time.. The more I do sometimes the worse I feel.
This sure is a balancing game. You got to balance what you kill with what you can detox and you can not do one of them too fast or you will feel horrible all the time.
For me anyway.
Does anyone here who has Rifed had experiences with Detox supports.
I did read one person who did 10000 after each session. I also found that number to be used for overall pain and well being and toxin release..
So that is the only thing I have come across.
The Kidney and Liver cleanses I have are a series of like 10 frequencies run as a program..
Thanks
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Keebler, what's the scoop on the metal detox you mentioned? How are you doing this, and does it need to be done before doing rife?
Tutu, you said you heard anything under 100 can negatively affect the heart. Do you remember where you read that, and also is it permanent, or is it the Lyme in the heart being killed off?
Have a few more months of treatment, but then want to try the rife after I'm off the abx. Does this seem like a good idea? Waiting until I'm off the abx I mean.
Thanks to all for this info.
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I still have not begun Rife therapy Spring. As far as Detox, NAC, ALA, Chlorella, Chelex, Burbur, Algas, Parsley have been the ones I've used. Burbur, Algas, and Parsley are from Nutramedix. NAC and ALA are from NSI. Chlorella was from "King Chlorella" (But Allergy Research makes a good brand too), and Chelex is from Xymogen.
They definitely cause reactions and those uncomfortable reactions gradually stopped as I continued treatment. I spent about a year detoxing. Unfortunately, as usual, none of those issues were what was causing me to feel sick.
I've done a lot of stuff and I've concluded that the bottomline of what is leaving me still ill is "Lyme and co-infections." The co-infections have been undertreated and are just now being addressed. Lyme has been hit very hard but without killing the co-infections it's been like running in circles.
When I feel better everyone will know!
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MB, I always thought Dr. H came up with killer regimes for co-infections. Is there a reason you believe the doc didn't go aggressive with you?
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According to the cross-referenced consolidated annotated frequency list, 719 - Cyst_sebaceous_TR, Nocardia_asteroides, Salmonella_comp, Salmonella_paratyphi_B
springshowers
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Thanks Cats.
I was given that number and the "most important" one for me to work with? I am confused by that.. will ask more questions about it soon.
Well... I was hoping to hear from anyone who considers using the rife for detox methods.
I am not hearing that as so from this thread anyway.
MIKE>> Sorry you feel you were not treated well enough for co infections. What makes you think that is so?
Do you have tests to show that you have positives for them or are you going by symptoms.
I also have not heard of any doctors not treating for co infections now adays.
Are you sure it might not be the co infection of the protozoan? Dr. Fry Protozoan? or others??
I am finding I respond best to the Anti protozoan treatments and anti malaria treatments.
That says something.. In my case anyway.
The IV flagyl has been hitting at it I can feel it.
But .. me too not over the edge yet....
Its a frustrating disease..
Wow you detoxed for a year.. That is helpful to know. I have been thinking that might be a big problem of mine but then again.. maybe not...
I have cleared a lot of stagnant stuff using the cold lazer treatments that I at first thought would make me literally die and now I do not get that same response to.
Then again i could use another modality or treatment and have that same response. Its hard to hit everything using every technique or remidy and they all work differently on different areas.
What a JOB HUH???
I feel like I have full time job lately and I am getting quite exhausted. Not a good thing for the body either.
I am going to slow this down. I have always done better with 4 days on and 3 days off or one week on and one week off..
So .. thats what I am going to insist on next..
Whew.. I got to take a breather.. ya know?
Well Thanks for sharing..
Mike I hope you feel better. And what has made you hesitate in trying your rife? It is supposed to be great for co infections. Even better than Lyme. From what I hear.. Esp parasites.
Well.. Keep us informed...
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Hi.. Anyone who can suggest the best Rife Site for learning techniques and frequencies etc. >>
I would like to share what I found that came with my machine and I did yesterday and today.. Is Detox programs.
Also my manual said to end all Detox programs with 465
I have some programs for Liver Detox .. and Kidney Detox.
Aren't others using these .. along with your trying to hit the infections?
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springshowers
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Here is a good site and I am sure you all might know about it already.
I do not sense there are a lot of rife users on this site?
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Sorry for all the questions.
I was wondering of those who have done or are doing rife. Have you just felt better or do you always herx?
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D Bergy
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The Rife Forum is where I post my treatments and results along with a couple of other people treating Lyme Disease.
Some are just starting and others are veterans of frequency treatments. We help each other, and learn from each others experience. The two main Lyme posters, myself and a person from England are using two different approaches. Hopefully one of us will eliminate the disease one way or another.
I never had to pay much attention to detoxing since it has not been much of a problem for my wife. She did take Burbur early into treatment, but it was not needed later on.
Herxing is part of treatments for quite a while, until you reduce the bacteria to a minimum.
My wife no longer has any Herxing and we are treating for over an hour almost every day. This is after four years of treatment, so I do not recommend the average person to try this.
She is virtually normal except for some minor joint pain. No other symptoms any more. No Herx reaction, but she still has some of the bacteria, as she can feel it when treating most of the time, especially if it starts to convert to spirochete form.
She barely felt the treatment tonight, but we have really been hammering it lately.
Dan
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springshowers
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Dan.. Thanks so much for the information. That is surprising that there are only 2 of you lyme people on the forum ??
Well I was asking about the detox and feeling better right away because I have done rife for 3 days now in a row.
I have done programs that are about 10 to 15 frequency groups and each one goes for 3 minutes. So that is quite a long time.
On one day I I did liver support program.
Day 2 I did a parasite cleanse and a detox program and even a couple Pain Relief Frequencies
Day 3 I did a lymph detox and an overall autointoxification program.
So.. Well.. I did about 30 to 60 minutes each day.
I am actually feeling a bit clearer today....
I did not want to go for the HITTING right away.of the infections.
I have been herxing from some other things and I also was afraid and want to see how i react to the machine.
SO I thought the parasite program that had about 10 frequencies of 3 minutes each.. .. I thought i might herx..But I have not.. and did not..
So.. well. If I could even use them machine for detox.. that will be great.
If I get good at it then when i do start killing stuff I could back it up or do detox the next days.
I guess if you do not have a detox issue you have no reason to play around with these numbers.
I am sure that has to be a bigger group of lyme patients somewhere who use rife. ???
Thanks again .. You have been a great help for me..
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There are more than two treating, but only two of us post on a regular basis. We are logging our experiences. I do that because I have a bad memory.
Since it is not a Lyme disease forum, the subjects are far more varied than here.
The Yahoo Lyme Rife forum was pretty active, but that was shut down. I am sure there are others, but I do not know where.
There probably is a need for a new Lyme/Rife forum, but if enough people use the Rife Forum, it will become the new Lyme/Rife forum.
There is disease section for Lyme and that is what we post under.
I have not used the detox frequencies much, so I do not know if they work well or not. It is one of those effects that are hard to measure accurately.
If they are helping you, then I would continue to use them. I think Lymph frequencies may be helpful also, if they do what they are supposed to. Anything to get the body working a little better should help.
Dan
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H-Pylori infection of the Stomach.
If using a contact machine place positive and negative contact on each side of the Abdomen.
If using a plasma machine, put it directly in front of the Stomach.
676 Hz for five minutes a day. Sweep from 675 to 677 for five minutes a day.
Do both for six days. Infection in Stomach should be gone.
Dan
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This is about an emotional reaction, not technical, not a list. Sorry to put it here.
I'm getting a different reaction to frx that are "hits" ; i don't get pain or a jolt.
I want to tell my extraordinary (to me) experience with an EMX-10, 30 sec: I had tried it already before for 30 sec, and i knew i should get as close as possible to it.
I held it in my arms like a warm puppy. The instant it turned on, i felt warmth and happiness pouring into my forehead . I relished every second, for the whole long 30 precious seconds.
Afterwards i sat on the couch smiling for an hour; I couldn't stop smiling! At one point i tried to go to the computer to write about my experience, but a turned on computer was harmful to my softened brain, i couldn't stand getting close to it; i just went back to smiling for an hour.
Then my head got thick and i slept extra hours, which is a herx for me.
What frequency was it? It happened to be a defective machine which i had to return. My husband tested it at 27.8 KiloHertz on his oscilloscope. I had keyed in 612, but it didn't respond to the frequency generator and output only 27.8 Kilohertz.
I haven't read anyone else writing an experience like this. It's a remarkable emotional experience in my life.
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I never had any experience like that. Mine never produced any particular feeling other than sometimes an anxiety, when using the GB in contact mode for a longer time.
I would like to point out that it is not impossible for these machines to quit working.
As any other electronic appliance, they quit working on occasion.
My wife's Lyme treatments, over two years ago quit producing any reactions. Two sessions produced nothing. It never had produced no reaction, or improvement, at that point in time. I knew something was wrong with the machine.
I examined the wires to the contacts and one was severed from the hand contact, with the insulation intact. The other had one or two strands of wire left. I had been warned about this prior, but had not checked them for a while, and my machine was used, when I bought it.
I cut out the bad areas and reattached them and it worked like it always had. Steady improvement, month to month.
It was a good thing your husband tested the machine, or else you would have been wasting your time. It is rare to get a new one that does not work properly, but it can happen.
Dan
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Calculating Capacitors On A Coil Machine?
This information comes from Dr. Dave: For those with Doug Coil machines which require adjustments for the capacitors. You'll need to calculate. Dr. Dave states
quote:
http://dougcoilmachine.com/purchase.html
This site has a calculator for frequency and capacitor switches
Click the link and go to "Free Stuff" and then at bottom of page choose the "Online calculator" and plug in the info and you can get the switches to turn on to any freq you want (within limits of the coil machine) machine.
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METALLlC BLUE
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I had updated the first post of this thread to reflect the very latest information. For beginners treating Lyme Disease, see the section listed as Significantly Important Frequencies
Many of these have been observed by Doug Mclean via lab confirmation to be effective in vitro (under a microscope). Whether this is true in-vivo (inside our bodies) is speculative, but patients continue to report positive results.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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This whole thread is like another language to me wow
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So why is it one cannot find a video of a Lyme spirochete... both before & during exposure to the "frequencies" that 'tick' it off? Shouldn't one be able to locate a dark-field microscope video where one can see the bug vibrate.. or break apart.. or atleast instantaneously stop it's forward wiggling (upon exposure).. or go nuts trying to propel forward? There are lots of "regular" videos of these spiral bugs!
And why doesn't/ hasn't Anyone suggested using Rife for an early, localized Lyme infection? Shouldn't that be a simple case of exposure to the Rife frequencies to knock it out? Why rely on systemic exposure to GI-tract-disturbing abx when all one should need to do is zzzzap the bite area??
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Most people that are recently infected do not have a frequency device laying around, but I do use mine when bit. I also take MMS and have taken Doxy also.
Tick bites are pretty common place around here, and I treat all of them one way or another.
There is a video of Spirochetes during frequency treatments. Unfortunatly, I have not book marked the site, and my computer has a virus that is screwing with my searches.
Someone else must have this saved.
A tick bite can bring several infections, and a broad base treatment is better for a new infection as you do not know what you are dealing with. It is relatively easy to kill these infections while they are still in the blood stream with antibiotics, so that would be the logical choice.
I use both frequencies and MMS or antibiotics with any suspect bite. You only get one good shot at this, and I do not take any chances. So far no infection although I have had several tick bites.
Dan
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MB,
What happened with your Bionic 880 treatments that you did in Italy (don't know if you continued on when you got home). Did it help?? Are you contlnuing with it?
Are you rifing now? If so, how is it going?
Abx?
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METALLlC BLUE
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R, I did two treatment cycles with the Bionic. I'm not releasing any progress reports yet. I'll be doing two Rife sessions before I begin my third Bionic cycle in October.
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If using a coil machine, the most powerful
570-Babesia once a day start at 15 seconds and work up, as herxing will allow
Lyme-432 once or twice a week start at 10-15 seconds and work up, as herxing will allow
Bart-832 once or twice a day again start 10-15 seconds and work up
Do not do these all at once- use only one and then the next as herxing backs off, then move on to the next.
Hold the coil right against you on your abdomen then when you are up to more time try to cover all parts of your body
448 GHRV (xmrv)
more frequencies can be found at the cafl site
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sorry,double post
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I would like to update my experience in treating H-Pylori. My wife was having stomach problems and I suspected H-Pylori.
I had treated it with the GB-4000 driving the Rifelabs EMX, but it did not produce relief. I did this more than once with no resolutions in symptoms.
When I used the GB-4000 with the more powerful MOPA amplifier, I had immediate results. I have treated this before with the GB-4000 and the regular amplifier and it worked then also.
I think it takes a more powerful plasma device to get this bacteria. Contact method seems to work and a powerful plasma device also works, but a weaker plasma device did not work.
Of course this is not 100% solid evidence, but something to consider.
Dan
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Theoretically, 432Hz/ "perfect A" (Verdi) or = the frequency of light...is a very very key frequency.
Since our "water filled" bodies impact the lightwave - TIME factor, using the equivalent SOUND waves which does travel thru water easier, is logical.
Once again ...432Hz (sound waves are expressed in herz) = the frequency of light.
(Think about how we can "talk" to friends when we are both underwater. BTW...Our brain alpha WAVES are music to dolphins "ears".)
From what I'm sure sounds like an odd comment...
"using concert pitch at 432 hertz instead of 440 hertz, your atoms and DNA starts to resonate in harmony with the PHI spiral of nature."
Many ancient instruments were keyed to that pitch. It produces "heavenly" music.
This is called the golden ratio/Phi.
A Fibonacci spiral that approximates the golden spiral - can see it here:
Our DNA forms an octrahedron (2 pyraminds that share a base) - one points up and one points down / heaven and earth - which begins to spin. You can see an animation in the link above.
Our DNA is circular and forms an octrahedron. Bb's DNA is linear.
Those 2 pryamids are represented many places. The upward = alpha and downward = omega.
Sometimes we see them with one on top of the other..."star".
"I am the alpha and the omega". Man and woman.
In Greek numerals...1 + 800.
In numerology = 801 = 9.
God is represented as 999.
And you-know-how is represented in the inverse of that!
It is all math and is incredible! Even our spiral universe and the shape of shells...
Salvador Dali was way ahead of his time...he showed us the coming 4th dimension in many of his works of art.
But it was expressed also in very ancient sculptures too.
Carl Sagan has videos on U-Tube trying to explain that future dimension.
Light... energy transfer which triggers/begins ALL life.
If you like to learn, google and WATCH:
Carl Sagan YouTube 4th dimension
Or...if you can't sleep...sometimes there are very interesting shows on TV by a physics professor. He is amazing!
He has been (and will be) on the TV shows - History channel, Discovery channel,Science channel, etc.
I watched him PROVE that for us...time slows down when we are...get this...scared!
So...if you can't sleep some night, it is fascinating to watch one of his shows as he presents physics principles in a way we can understand. He is really cool!
Keep exercising your mind...and keep it very open to what seems to be the impossible...which includes the possibility of using sound waves to heal.
Ancora Imparo.
Hey...if we can block PAIN by simply wearing a virtual reality eyepiece and watching a bunch of penquins in a blue scene...
(It's called Snow World VR) VR = virtual reality.
It changes our brain signals as evidenced by MRIs!
It is a new technique to relieve pain primarily for burn patients, but also other pain too as well as ...get this...post traumatic distress.
By changing what we SEE and/or what we HEAR...we can help our body.
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PLease add proven VIRAL frequencies for HHV6, parvovirus, ebv, herpes simplex, herpes zoster, etc there are so so many numbers. I am killing babesia with rife and enula and all viral symptoms are worse!!
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I use the standard CAFL list of frequencies for Herpes Zoster to get rid of Shingles.
Another person used the same frequencies to put Ramsey Hunt syndrome into remission. It took him a few weeks to clear this condition up using the GB-4000 in contact mode.
I think the best bet for viruses in particular, are Char Boehm's DNA frequencies. Viruses do not seem as hard as bacteria to get rid of.
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Update made to the Babesia listing. If your listing isn't available here for a particular specialized infection, see the link in the first post, or this link below:
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Capebite, I can't provide all the ones you've requested, but here are a couple:
EBV: 880 HHV-6: 228 and 1820
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Update: It is thought that lower powered machines, such as the EMEM may work more effectively in the higher frequency ranges given Dr. Rife attempted to go as high as possible. We have been suggesting that people try these as part of their therapy after they've tried the conventional numbers, such as 610, or 432 for Lyme: Take the regular frequencies below on the list, and either multiply by 2 for as long as you wish until you reach your machines highest capacity, or, simply add the numbers together of a particular frequency, such as 610 + 610 = 1220 + 610 + 610 and onward. These higher harmonics may be more effective, we do not know for certain.
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quote:Originally posted by Keebler: - Thanks, you two. I am finally getting the heavy metal treatment part in place (as I understand goes hand in hand) so I will start my EMEM5a rife treatment this week.
Singin' in the Rain . . . just singin' in the rain . . . . -
Hello,
I'm dealing against Lyme disease, me and my family. I tried abs, buhner, doug coil... I'm still stuck.
I saw a comment from you about the EMEM machine? Does it worked? Could you give me your opinion of it?
Any info would be usefull.
Best regards.
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My turn to share: Youngest child: affected by PANS or pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric syndrome. She unfortunately has mold toxicity/ colonization, Lyme and Bartonella all of which she acquired congenitally.
She expresses emotional lability, anger fits, lack of motivation and of curiosity, low energy levels, she has low appetite and a preference for sweets, and she does not verbalize much, has insomnia/ nightmares and night terrors, often preferring to be alone or lie down on the couch most of the day.
She is 4 years old, is officially neuro developmentally normal, normal weight.
When I treat her mold/ bartonella/ lyme with 5 min each with frequencies on the rife machine, followed by 30 min plus herx protocol, she is a radically different child!
She verbalizes spontaneously telling me stories, showing adequate curiosity and interest towards new topics, wants to socialize, runs a lot and likes to play, her energy appears normal, she shows interest in new foods and has less sweet cravings, she laughs and is just an adorable sweet well behaved child. No anger fits, much better emotional regulation. She even stopped having night terrors/ frequent nightmares!
However I need to treat her every 6 days. Otherwise her negative symptoms come back. And if I am too aggressive with her treatment protocol, she Herxes and all her negative symptoms get much worse. If that happens I hook her on the Herx protocol for 30 min and she improves, without fail.
I have an older daughter who is also affected by these same chronic infections, having acquired them congenitally and would also have the label PANS.
Her manifestations are slightly different but also within the neuropsych sphere.
She has intense anxiety, fears, some OCD, emotional dysregulation with anger fits, grumpy mood and she is very sensitive to criticism, she bursts out in tears frequently. The other thing that drives me insane is her oppositional/ defiant behaviour that is induced by Bartonella.
When I treat all her infections, Bartonella, Mold and Lyme on the Rife machine for a total of 30-45 min, she also changes radically. She becomes helpful, nice, polite (as opposed to rude and unhelpful) she has no oppositional/ defiant behaviours and complies with instructions, she has far less anger fits and controls her emotions much better, is less triggered by criticism and has much less anxiety/ OCD! She becomes this nice helpful, sweet little girl.
She is 7 and now smiles in her school pictures, as opposed to looking grumpy and unhappy last year prior to starting treatments.
Myself: the unsuspecting instigator of all this mess in my kids. Overall healthy until about 4-5 years ago I developed worrisome symptoms.
Overall areas involved: digestive: SIBO/ SIFO recurring, immune challenges with recurrent infections, joint involvement: 3 main ones, neuro symptoms: these were numerous and very concerning: incoordination, intermittent weakness so as to lead to near miss falls, trouble with fine motor and complex motor tasks such as buttoning shirt, braiding hair, brain fog such that names were forgotten and I needed to make lists, numerous food sensitivities which led to orthorexia and a very restrictive diet, allergic symptoms etc.
Also, lifelong mood swings which I never attributed to anything in particular.
I stumbled upon a webinar that discussed mold toxicity and this led me to test my urine and my house, and I found out about mold toxicity.
Went on binders: cholestyramine with massive improvement of numerous symptoms maybe 80% better. Then I moved and stopped the binder and felt def worse than with the binder in the moldy house.
Dug deeper with the help of my naturopath and found Lyme, Bartonella, Rickettsia, Babesia in my antibodies, in addition to Aspergillus and Penicillium. Aspergillus spores were found in my house and Penicillium spores in mom’s house.
I started rifing and using FSM treatments regularly about 15 months ago; this has been an absolute game changer - more than the cholestyramine alone. I am about 90% better now.
My immune challenges are gone, my gut is a lot more stable, all my food sensitivities that I had for years are completely gone, my neuro symptoms- most concerning ones are resolved, my mood lability is much improved (an unexpected bonus!) including sensitivity to criticism, like my daughter this was a big deal for me. Now I don’t fall apart with criticism anymore; I take it, think about it and decide what to do about it, in a more objective manner unburdened by the anxiety that used to come with.
Still continuing to Rife/FSM twice per week and have now been able to extend treatment sessions to 45 min -1h15 min per session; and treat Bartonella and Borrelia on different days and now use Sporanox for Mold colonisation.
I take supportive supplements but none that have killer activities. I have not been on long courses of antibiotics but when I have taken ATB in the past, always felt remarkably better during and after the course.
I am hoping that we can regain interest in this forum and am calling out to old contributors to share their current successes.
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Glad rife has worked for you and your children.
Would you mind breaking up your post so there are divisions? Some people with Lyme cannot read well when there is such a long post with no spaces between lines. Thanks.
I tried rife and it only increased my myoclonic seizures. Antibiotics didn’t help, either.
What helped me the most were:
1. Infrared treatment with a “bionic machine” in Germany. (2009)
2. Use of a Brennan energy healer from 2009-2018. I would use her still but she passed away.
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Yes, FSM is frequency specific microcurrent. It is similar to a Rife machine but works on 2 channels at once. The first channel is the Rife frequency and the second channel is the tissue targeted. So you can be more precise with treatment, for example 850 (bartonella freq on channel one) and 77 (connective tissues on channel 2). This combination helps with muscular and supportive tissue pain due to Bartonella.
In regards to FSM I obtained the device from my naturopath who uses it in her clinic for a wide variety of problems. FSM is available to the general public in chiropractic offices or physios for example but “officially” FSM cannot treat infections or cancers. It is approved mostly for pain and other supportive treatments. But it can do all that Rife can do and more, in my humble experience.
Carolyn McMakin DC is training professionals on the use of FSM but her practical modules are quite pricey. She wrote a wonderful book on the topic that I consumed as an audiobook, the Resonance Effect. I strongly suggest the read.
I am curious if anyone has had any experience treating kids, see My post above. Also, I understood the feedback; I will space out my postings.
Thanks
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Thanks for the information, Hardtoknockdown!
If you are looking for a LLMD or naturopath for your kids you might ask in the section called Seeking a Doctor, although I see you are in Canada, so don’t know how much help you will get.
Is there a support group in your area for tick borne diseases?. They might have suggestions.
Blessings!
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Ok sure. Thanks for your input. I have a naturopath and honestly she guides me a little but I am on my own for my treatment and my kids. I like having control over the situation and with Rife I can really modulate and adjust treatment as per clinical evolution. And frankly MDs either do not know about Rife and cannot talk about it. I read Brian Roslyn’s book on Rife and Lyme and studied it; I also found Dr P's book Chronic absolutely marvellous and incredibly informative.
I do like to read about other users experience with Rife and Lyme and co-infections. I have progressed my treatment but obviously don’t know what its like to be disease free. I have found in my quest so far that Herx helper on Rife (I own the Spooky 2 made in Australia) is fundamental to reduce and even avoid Herx altogether after a treatment. I occasionally skip it when I don’t have time or if I feel overconfident and I always invariably get a Herx reaction, and these are not fun.
Typically my Herx reactions look like a terrible allergic reaction with sneezing, itchiness and runny nose/ rash but also get chills and sweats so severe that it feels like a flu, and mood lability or dark mood with lack of motivation or feeling “spaced out” like I am not really in my body… so weird! That last symptom I don’t typically have outside of Herxes. Anyone else feel some odd mood related or brain related symptoms? I appreciate reading about your experience!
Who else is actively experimenting with frequencies at this moment? Anyone willing to share previous successes please PM me.
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PM sent with info for Canada. I do not have any LLMD names as the climate surrounding Lyme treatment was bad before - don't know if it has changed.
Here is a website I found entitled, "The Lyme Maze - Navigating Lyme Disease in Canada":
Thanks do much for all the wonderful resources! It will take some time to comb through them! I started with Dr B’s principles and printed to read in bed
This group is great. I already feel the support.
Before finding out about Lyme, I had no idea how debilitating it could be !!
Keep up the activism ! Maybe I will get involved in that too
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I have been rifing with the Doug Coil for 3 1/2 years now.
To start, I tried a wide range of frequencies, using what was recommended on the Rife Forum for Lyme disease and co-infections.
I would search the Rife Forum site with current symptoms and try the frequencies suggested.
It took a long time and a lot of experimenting to find what worked for me, but was well worth it. I'm so much better.
Now, I rife just once a week, 3 minutes per frequency.
biofilm 641.2 (for LD and Bart) Borellia 612 Cyst bust 840.7 (persister form of Borellia)
To put this in perspective, I have had LD since 1970, which went undiagnosed for decades. I plan to continue this maintenance protocol indefinitely.
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Daisys—so glad rife has helped you.
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