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kadee
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Thanks so much, Pamoison.
So I'll have to find these herbs in Germany additionally to rifing.

My Bartsymptoms: Jointpains, myalgic pains, burning sensations (especially feet), heart pain, headache/pressure on top, agitation, little sleep, panic/fear, numbness, tingling....
All this had mostly gone under Levaquin, but came back after stopping it.

[ 04-04-2010, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: kadee ]

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Any user reports on the Doug coil? I wonder whether they have all been healed and are no longer around.
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Polly,

I have been rifing for Babs & Bart for 2 months, every other day for 4 mins on each of the following frequencies:

Babs: 76, 570, 20, 27, 1584
Bart: 10, 357, 364, 379, 645, 832, 6878

I never noticed these red veins before...just noticed them the same day I read your post.

I have noticed since using my rife that my skin is a lot smoother (feels softer) and the rough spots on the bottom of my feet are gone. It is so weird.

Thanks for your posts -- they are very helpful.

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summers,

Have you noticed improvement in symptoms? Do you feel anything during the sessions? Which strains of infections have you tested positive for, if any?

Thanks so much for posting your protocol. Would love to hear if you think you have knocked the loads down.

Are you also rifing for Lyme? I have only done babs and bart so far, so I can see what response I get to rifing for each infection.

Thanks,
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TB -- I tested negative for co-infections of babs & bart. But both my LLMD & I know that I have them due to symptoms.

When I rife, I don't feel anything, I just feel the herx after sometimes 12-24 hrs later.

I have noticed a lot of improvement in my symptoms. Less brain fog, more energy. BUT, I have been treating Babs really aggressivly w/Mepron, Zith, Flagyl & Larium.

So to be honest, I don't know if it is the abx or rife....or Both. I do respond well to abx.

When I first started rifing, I used more babs & bart frequencies, but with my DT machine, it took too long, so I kinda picked these numbers from the list.

I rife for lyme, every Tuesday for 4 minutes on the following frequencies:
432, 612, 690, 800, 4328, 2016

I was told you only need to rife once a week for rife, but I would be open to rifing more like twice a week if anyone has any input.

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BTT, I didn't have any problem dialing in 76.


As far as cancer goes, rife is used for cancer, so that is confusing.

liz

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Here's something really terrific to rife for!

Aflatoxins! I never would have dreamed!

AFLATOXIN 344 510 943 474 476 568 2489

ASPERGILLUS (mold that makes aflatoxin)
1823 247 1972 524 758 374 697 339 743

I had resigned myself to certain death because i eat peanut butter; so now every time i eat peanut butter i should run up and rife for how long? Where is the Professor of Rifing?

Would it work just as well to carry a Clark-type zapper and zap those numbers in case of peanut butter?

Aflatoxin is a chemical! Are the rife waves going to break up the molecule or something? Is there documentation for this?

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It's about 12 days since rifing started and I feel so much better. Not perfect but much better. I can walk, clothes are looser, not so itchy from parasites, not so tired, heels not killing me. Haven't herxed much after first 2 days. Have been sleeping a lot but it's a good sleep, because I can't get out of bed from crushing fatigue but just cuz I feel sleepy.
Have been doing programs for parasites, rickkettsia, obesity, pain.
Still need to run for thyroid, lymph nodes, ebv and lyme.

My sister said I looked different like I had more energy and my face looked not as stressed.

Interesting journey.

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LoneDove -- skin itchy from parasites? how do you know this?
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Rife is working.

One morning i had a heavy ominous woozy feeling, i assume Lyme. I rifed for 15 min on Lyme sweeps, plus 40 min on other things, and the head symptoms stayed away for 8 hours, but some eye pains after 6 hours.

I've changed my number 1 Lyme sweep from 611-613 to 612-614.

In the last 2 days i've rifed twice for Candida, Mold, Fungi, and Yeast, many different groups of frequencies, w rubber gloves, holding the bars on the abdomen.

The treatments did keep the worst symptoms away, not too bad gut condition, while continuing chocolate.

I wish i had an ND or any doctor who would give me a cut-and-dried, guaranteed Candida protocol. The rifeing is effective enough so that i would be willing to do a complete Candida diet for 4 months or whatever, as long as it's guaranteed to work. I do not eat meat, so it's hard if i'm not allowed to eat my protein sources such as peas or peanut butter.

Here's a frequency series i used, which made my BRAIN feel clean and cleaner:

430 620 624 840 866 5148 2213 19180.5

I ran them as a group (simultaneously) on my GB-4000.

I've been rifeing an hour or two per session recently, even twice a day--- i believe the results are better.

However, i'm getting tired of being hooked up to these cords; so much time is not sustainable. The results so far don't seem to give any hint of a knock-out blow! It's just maintenance. Yes, i'm 100% functional and OFF ABX.

Nothing gave me a knock-out blow--- not ABX, or herbs, or rife, just more maintenance and more time. I never went into remission. Just low-level symptoms to keep down.

I guess it's time to start using the PE-1 with homeopathic nosodes, as Selma used them. It's said to take far less time. She credits it for a 100% cure of everything.

Also i could acquire a plasma-tube type rife machine so i could read a book more easily, like a BCX Ultra?

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Hey fellow rifers,

Anyone ever rife to address acute tick bite? I was bit by a tick on Sunday and rifed on Monday, including holding the hand wand against the red mark on my leg. I "feel" fine, although the bite looked nasty, red and seemed like it could "grow" it hasn't.

I'm still really nervous and wondering if I should do a course of abx just to make sure. Remember, I have already had lyme/babs, done 2 years of orals and a course of IV- so I really don't want to be gone again.

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Catskillmamala -- I come from the camp, 'better safe than sorry.'

If it was me, I would go on abx, rife the spot where you were bit, and I would 'up' my rifing schedule.

There is no way in h^!! I would take the chance to be reinfected. If you aren't against oral abx, then add a course of it.

Keep us posted

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If the spot was infected (red), I definitely would do ABX. You never know which bacteria was transferred. These ticks carry so much garbage.

I tell from experience. [Frown]

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Has anybody seen the New GB4000 machine? It runs multiple frequencies at a time, has a wide frequency range, and an amplifier: what makes it better than the machines y'all are currently using?
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Hi PSR --- that sounds like my machine, my GB-4000. What do you mean by new?

It's better in that it runs multiple frequencies. I appreciate this immensely. I IMAGINE (i'm not an expert) that all those multiple frequencies are hitting bugs that may have changed their skin a little.

I IMAGINE that it's knocking down bugs a lot better than single frequencies. Also it does decimal frx--- do the EMEMs do decimals?

I.E., a lyme sweep 612-614 runs all the numbers plus decimals from, e.g., 612.1 through 613.9. My body reactions are telling me this is good.

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I've figured out how to do this so it's time-efficient!

I can't believe it took me 4 months to realize this!
Duh???

It's ridiculous to use the hands to hold the handbars when they could be turning pages of a book or writing!

I should just sew two little armbands to hold the handbars on my lower arms, like an IV hookup.

I can't believe they didn't even include the armbands in the kit!

Plus, the 3d bird, i should sew a shoulder-pouch, balanced front and back, to put a 10 lb set of ankle weights in. Then i should put the weight sling, balanced front and back, over my shoulders while sitting , to get my spine weights, for osteoporosis, which i had stopped doing.

3 birds with one session! It makes it all doable!!

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Polly, I used Velcro to fix the handbars of my "Biowave". That made the handling very easy.
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Hey Polly"
I got an email from a rife company with a blurb saying there was a "new" GB 4000, with demo video. Did you pay $2300 for this? THat just seems like a staggeringly high amount of money, though even with my little forays into rife have showed that it might be worth it...

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quote:
Originally posted by j_liz:
BTT, I didn't have any problem dialing in 76.


As far as cancer goes, rife is used for cancer, so that is confusing.

liz

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Radiation is used for cancer, too. It also causes it.

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quote:
Originally posted by springshowers:
Why are people writing that there is an issue with it causing cancer "at some point" That is a big thing to write without supporting information or referring us to something we can read or such> I have not been able to find that sort of info and sure would appreciate it if someone could provide that here so we can all read it and learn about it.

THanks

There is no supporting information because a grant has just been given to study it. The study is just starting. The info is not available yet, as I said in my original post, a top LLMD is starting a study on it. He has been given a major grant to study it. He believes Rife is very helpful but at some point, pretty long into it, it becomes a risk and is GOING TO study it to try and pinpoint just where that point is.

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Polly Great Ideas. I have the BCX so I can put the ray tubes under my arms. But I also like to use the foot and hand electrodes all together now because it is more effective. In my reading I read of many who do just what you wrote. Rigged them to be tied to their arms or ankles or where ever..
Great Job... and I like to kill many birds too at once and can do the foot bath at the same time if I am feeling really brave and well its a funny sight!


Tracy. Thanks for the response. I am assume when you say "at one point" that means after a certain amount of time?
Meaning maybe we do not want to push it or treat too continuously and for too many like years?

I would hate to think that in the end it caused cancer for some reason.

If there are grants there must be cases or reasons they believe this. Are there any references or documents anyone knows of?

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Here is a picture of the new MOPA amplifier that will work with the GB-4000.

http://futurefrequency.com/component/content/article/3-front-page/62-mopa-amplifier-replica

I am likely going to have one built, and see if the increased power will eliminate the remnants of the Lyme from my wife.

We have been on vacation for two weeks with no treatment until the other day. Her symptoms were pretty minimal, but some ankle pain did come and go. We were in the Sun a lot, so I expected worse.

A friend of mine treated her yesterday with a more powerful EM+ made by Bruce Stenulson.

The difference was that when he treated her, she would feel pain in her ankles and knees, and then the pain would stop. One ankle did not stop hurting during treatment, but all other places stopped hurting during treatment. I do not get that effect when I treat her with the GB-4000 or Rifelabs EMX, so I thought that was interesting.

She is in some pain today, as die off appears to have taken place in the hips, knees, ankles and spine.

I am thinking the increased power had much more effect than any of my present machines would have.

Now I just will wait and see if symptoms come back again, or not. I expect they will with only one treatment.

Dan

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Tracy9's information gives me the picture that this famous LLMD knows people who have been rifing for a long time--- how many people? how long?--- and that some of them got cancer--- how many?

It sounds like the source of his inspiration. Where else would he have got an opinion that rife could cause cancer?

Has he been rifing cell cultures and then microscoping and found changes?

PS If this is the doctor i'm thinking of, i PERSONALLY wouldn't give a lot of trust in his correctness, to start with, based on treatment attitudes and choices in areas outside his specialty which i thought were not correct for me; but i don't know which doctor it is.

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After treatment with the Stenulson EM+ machine, the swelling in my wife's ankles went down to its lowest point since she was infected. We could see an ankle bone that had not been seen in years. The next evening the swelling increased a lot.

The next day the swelling was down to a new low. There is still a circle of swelling, like a water pocket just under the skin.

In a few more days I should know if this effect is from killing Lyme, or just a physiological effect of reducing swelling. No swelling frequencies were used, but just running these machines seems to stimulate the circulatory system, so I will wait and see what happens.

I am suspecting that my machines are not powerful enough to kill all of the Lyme, but I have not conclusively proven that to my satisfaction yet.

That is what I am trying to establish.

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I broke my ankle and lower leg 2x on same leg about 10 yrs ago. It's always been swollen. My ankle and the top of my foot is always puffy. Since rifing about 2.5 weeks ago the swelling is down so I can barely tell a difference from my other ankle and foot that was never injured. Not sure what program helped the swelling though.

I'm rifing on alot of things. Going to start a journal. But this machine does work. Yesterday rifed for parasites again but my dogs around and they were expelling gas and needing to go outside to go potty more than usual after rifing . Nothing in their diet had changed and they normally never have gas problems.

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I read that the really low frequencies ar ebest for Bart.

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quote:
Originally posted by richedie:
I read that the really low frequencies ar ebest for Bart.

I use 547 hz.

What machine are you using? Mine has a program for rickkettsia and from what I understand it's same or very similar to bart. It's helping the burning, stabbing pain in my heels. I can walk now but it's not fully gone yet.

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This is so cool!

I had about 5 places on my face near my jawline. They were like moles but flat, slightly reddish. I've had them a couple of years and nothing got rid of them. There also was a round, flesh colored flat thing on the tip of my nose. That I asked a dermatologist about and he said it was nothing to worry about and he didn't have anything to get rid of it.

THEY'RE GONE!!

I looked tonight and there is a slight red places on my face with a little skin around it like they just fell off!!

There is still a pale brown, mole thing flat but with sort of little blister things under the skin low on my left cheek. I'm going to watch that and see if it disappears.

The only problem is I've run so many programs, I don't know what got rid of them. One day, we ran a skin cancer program with another friend but that was just once a week ago.

Wow, this would be awesome if I could get my beautiful complexion back. I even went 1.5 yrs ago and got 1 laser treatment at a medical spa but it didn't make in difference in these places.

Beamray!

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LoneDove -- Your post is very interesting to me.

I posted on something somewhat similiar, a while back, that since I have started rifing, that the bottoms of my feet are really smooth.

They used to have all these rough spots and there is a joke amoung my friends that when I would get a pedicure, that they would have to bring out an electric saw to sand down my feet.

It was like the rough spots were peeling/falling off the bottom of my feet.

Well no more. I have also noticed (and my husband too) that my skin is SO SOFT I am talking new born baby soft -- it is really weird, this is all since starting the rife. And I only rife on lyme, bart, babs and some parasite frequencies.

I also use the rife for my menstrual cramps, it works!

DT EMEM5a

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LoneDove,

Would that skin cancer frx work on an EMEM? If so, would you let me know what the frx is?

My brain is struggling with this next question, I don't know how to ask it. Does one frx work the same with all of the different rife machines (like what I asked above)? I hope that makes sense.

liz

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So my little stereo amplifier and TENS pads are doing something: I have been setting it to Bart & Babs frequencies and not feeling anything: til I add 30 seconds for Lyme cysts (2016). Then I experience tremors, depression & anxiety, and increased nerve pain symptoms. I rifed Saturday night: it is now Monday & it feels as if the reaction is finally fading...it is really rough & I may just go down to 15 seconds next time.
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quote:
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LoneDove,

Would that skin cancer frx work on an EMEM? If so, would you let me know what the frx is?

My brain is struggling with this next question, I don't know how to ask it. Does one frx work the same with all of the different rife machines (like what I asked above)? I hope that makes sense.

liz

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1) I'm not sure if it was the skin cancer program that made those mole like things fall off my face. I only sat under it 1x.

Also, not a doctor, but maybe there are different frequencies for different types of skin cancers?

I've been running programs for Epstein-Barr, parasites, rickettsia(bart), adenovirus mainly.

2) I've never seen the EMEM machine. I am no rife expert but trying to learn. I think some rife machines have to be in contact to your skin and some like the beamray you are free while sitting under the light & sound. I would think the freq's would be the same. Also, I think some so called rife machines aren't really rife but mag pulsers. I own a mag pulser and it helps pain but not sure how good it is to target and kill microbes.

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But do you have a skin cancer frx? Because I have skin cancer and would like to try it. One area keeps coming back, too.

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quote:
Originally posted by j_liz:
But do you have a skin cancer frx? Because I have skin cancer and would like to try it. One area keeps coming back, too.

liz

What kind of skin cancer do you have?

I don't have a emem machine so maybe so emem owners can help here. I can pm you on some freqs though if you be more specific.

Of course, I'm not a dr.

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I don't know very much about the study, only that he is now recommending Rife to his pts and thinks it is very promising, but does think at some poing (not in the beginning, pretty far along) it might be a cancer risk, and wants to find out what point that might be at.

I'm sorry I don't have more details; he is a top LLD and a top researcher, and extremely thorough, so I know we can trust his results. Furthermore the study is funded. I see him next week so if I can find out more I will. I just thought it would be good to know this is being studied, not to scare people but to make them feel safe that it is being looked into in relation to long term risks.

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The type of Rife machines in use today have a very spotty track record as far as Cancer treatment is concerned. One reason is probably because they are not the same as an original Rife machine, which was a high voltage low current device. The only one available at this time that replicates the original is the new MOPA amplifier, and no one has tested that as of yet.

I do not dissuade anyone from using one for Cancer, but I would use it in conjunction with other treatments to increase your odds of success.

Many have had spectacular recoveries, and many have died of the disease using frequencies. We just cannot reliably achieve the same results as the old machines. Hopefully that will change now that we know how Rife's original devices worked.

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My Mom wanted to buy one but I told her to really think it through and research it because of exactly what Dan said. It is one thing to work on these bugs and another to kill cancer. Even though I believe bugs come to get you while you have cancer and rife can help with that and organ support and detox etc.. It could be benefitial but not what I would think dependable for curiative action.

She choose to spend her money on some new blood tests somewhere in Greece I believe that helps you know which meds you will react best to.

She is doing IPT and there fore has the same issue as many how have to figure out which meds are best along with the other IV treatments

Like Lyme its all trial and error but they are racing the clock.

She may do a trial using mine to see how it goes. I have a specialized cancer protocol from a doc who was so kind to give it to me.

So has anyone read about any dangers of people to run cancer numbers if we do not have cancer that we know of?

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After reading Neyna Sylver's "the rife handbook", I think perhaps it was running candida program a few times that made those mole things fall off my face.

According to her book, you can get mole like things on your skin that are yeast related.


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If you do use it for Cancer, make sure you sweep the Cancer frequency. It was recently revealed that this was how it was done originally. The measuring equipment in Rife's time was not accurate enough to nail down the exact frequency.

Sometimes people feel the effect, they get a warmness or other sensation that is unusual in the area of the Cancer.

IPT is a good treatment, and so is Low Dose Naltrexone. I would do LDN in a heart beat for Cancer. It would be the first treatment I used, although I already take it for Crohn's.

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I am seeing a dermatologist for the skin cancer. The thing is, the one type I have, actinic keratosis (which is called a pre skin cancer, but I was told is a misnomer, it is stage one) keeps coming back. I have had it burned 3x's and used chemo cream another time. This time it is finally going to be biopsied (a little over due).

The other cancer was squamous cell carcinoma.

I read just recently, and can't for the life of me remember where, that some believe cancer happens because of a virus. That is why I want to rife. I will continue to be treated by the derm., but want to do rife to prevent more.

Thanks for all the input.

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Liz--- Thanks for mentioning.

I have an actinic lentigo which my dermatologist said would never become melanoma. Maybe i should dig deeper!

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Here are some frequencies listed for Clostridium difficile:

387 635 673

Do they work?

It could save some people a lot of trauma if they really work!!

So DO they in fact WORK?????

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Pam

I don't know if those work but these are things that are working after trying many other remedies including whatever dr.'s had to offer.

To recap almost 3 wks of rifing on beamray with sweeps:

1- works on rickkettsia/ barts - from unable to walk and lots of pain even laying down to 75-80% no pain. Walking easy now from semi-invalid state

2) candida /yeast- taking mole like things off my face, not so itchy, peeling skin

3) parasites- again not so itchy, 90% less bumpy,rash

4) epstein-barr virus - had herx. Feel better

5) borrelia- not seen any reaction that I notice

6) bronchitis - ran on my sister w/terrible hacking cough, chills, shaky last night. Right away under beamray reduced cough by 90%. About an hour later she had herx headache then went to sleep. This morning she's not hacking, felt great, had energy, went on walk. Now it's 4pm and she's not here, just called and said she's feeling rundown again, shaky, coughing. Has been taking whatever she could but nothing helping like beamray yesterday. She's coming over tomorrow morning for another session.

7) strep - taken away slight sore throat

These things have worked in last 3 wks.
[woohoo]

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I think you have probably illustrated part of the problem of treating Lyme that can easily be over looked.

Unknown co-infections are part of this disease often enough that it impedes progress, just because we are not aware of their presence.

Not just with Lyme, but I also had a reaction to XMRV virus that through treatment appears to have changed my intestinal function. I do not have Lyme, but have Crohn's Disease. From reading a report here on the possible XMRV virus involvement with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, I decided to test its involvement with Crohn's Disease.

I did react to it, and I cannot say it cured my disease, but it did have an effect that I would never have expected.

I guess that is the beauty of this method as it allows you to treat multiple possible infections with one modality available to anyone. Its reliability is not what it should be, but we will learn more as more people use it.

I am happy to hear of your success. I wish everyone could benefit as much as we have. Maybe as we unravel the mystery behind Lyme, we can get better results for everyone in the future.

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LoneDove -- what are the frequencies that you rifed for EBV? I have a sneaky feeling that I need to tackle that.

Dan -- Thanks for reminding me about the XMRV virus. I am getting what I think is a more powerful machine this weekend and I want to use it to target XMRV as well as use the DNA frequecnies.

Currently using DT EMEM5a adding a Ultimate B3 this weekend.

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My wife did not react to the XMRV treatment as I did. I do not think it was an issue for her, although she is the one with Lyme. My son did respond as I did, and my daughter did not respond at all. Both have autoimmune diseases.

The XMRV DNA frequencies did bring on a case of Shingles for my wife, and I am sure this could happen to someone else also.

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From wikipedia:"XMRV is closely related to several known xenotropic mouse viruses. These viruses recognize and enter cells of non-rodent species by means of the cell-surface xenotropic and polytropic murine leukemia virus receptor (XPR1). "

Just what I need another virus! Lord knows, living in the country, I've been around a mouse or 2.

But I do not understand how in the world a rife that obliterates microbes could cause shingles? How do you know the rife machine is the causitive agent? Two, how would that even would be possible? How would killing off XMRV virus cause the herpes shingles virus to proliferate? I not saying Dan's wife didn't get shingles but I do not understand the mechanics of how that would be possible.

I know when I rife for something I may feel twinges, pains but then I feel better. For instance, last night I was rifing for rickkettsia/bart and my feet were burning & hurt more than usual but this morning my feet were 100% normal. NO PAIN!! I could walk perfectly normal!! It's been months since that has happened!
Ok, sorry I get excited! [woohoo]

Also, small moles on my body are peeling off. It's amazing.

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Lonedove, What frequencies are you doing that make your moles fall off? Mine haven't fallen off.
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I rifed on GINGIVITIS frx and it worked!

I had a section of sore gums. I was going to make a dentist appt. Then i rifed, and didn't make the appt.

GINGIVITIS frx: 776 7660 2720 1550 880 8450 803 8300 784 7870 728 7270 726 20 1556 2489 2008 20080 1800 1600 690 666 650 625 600 6000 444 522 146

Before that i had tried PYORRHEA frx, which seemed not to work.

(didn't work)-- 2720 2489 2008 20080 1800 1600 1550 803 8300 880 8450 784 7870 776 7660 728 7270 444 522 146 20 5000

Before that i had done DENTAL frx, which also didn't seem to do much:

(didn't work) 635 640 1036 1043 1094 685 60 48

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Dan, one of my handholds gets pretty warm, at times uncomfortably warm on the skin of my arm, i have to move it around, when it's stuffed up my sleeve ( not holding it in my hands). It can make a faint red mark.

One gets noticeably warmer than the other. My husband says if it gets warm, it must have a resistor inside. So one has more or less resistor than the other.

I guess this is not a problem?
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My guts were in bad condition for several days, since i hadn't had time to do the candida-fungus-yeast-mold rifing on the abdomen.

Then i did a one hour session all on the abdomen, and today my guts are perfectly well-behaved, no grumblings or problems at all! Too bad it doesn't last more than a few days.

Rifing just on candida frx doesn't work at all. I have to do all the various fungi, mold, etc frx that i can find. I don't know which the effective ones are.
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My head symptoms are diminishing!

Can you believe it---- my husband sees me getting better in front of his eyes, but he still doesn't believe in rife! He says it's just anecdotal, not a controlled study.

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polly.. i need your help.. I have nail fungus just on two big toes.. It was near gone but then just came roaring back?

What were the numbers you used and how did you do it? DiD you put something on directly.

I have been doing salt ionic foot baths daily and you would think i would help but instead it is worse. Ugh. Yeah its not the worse thing or painful etc.. But I sure would love to get rid of it.

Great idea on the dental stuff.. How do you know it worked. What were your symptoms.

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I have a DT EMEM5a machine and I am picking up a B3 Ulimate this weekend (this is the model right before the GB4000).

My question is...can I rife with these machines while watching TV? If my machine & I are say...20 feet away from the TV. Does the TV interfer with the rife and vice versa.

Now when I rife I turn the TV & computer completly off and I move my iphone to another room. Is all this necessary?

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quote:
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My question is...can I rife with these machines while watching TV? If my machine & I are say...20 feet away from the TV. Does the TV interfer with the rife and vice versa.

Now when I rife I turn the TV & computer completly off and I move my iphone to another room. Is all this necessary?

I don't know about those machines but I have a laptop, iphone, full tv setup with no problems. The beamray is about 7 ft or more away from stuff.

beamray

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Thanks LoneDove -- This is great news. Now I can kill two birds with one stone by rifing & watching my favorite TV shows. I will just make sure I am at least 10 feet away from the TV.
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LoneDove, I'm a Beam Ray owner also since '04.
Are you using the stronger bulb? I discovered a couple years ago that I do much better using the less powerful bulb.

I was looking through my notes from 04 recently and I had wrote down that the extra bulb that came with the machine is to be used on children and those with a weaken immune system.

I'm able to rife more often using this bulb.

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I'm not sure. I got mine used with a blue bulb. The previous owner said it came with a red bulb but the blue is supposed to be stronger.

I'm going to visit someone that just got a double tube so I'll report if it's any different. It's supposed to make the sessions shorter.

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I cannot say with 100% certainty that the XMRV frequencies caused the Shingles outbreak, but she is only 46 years old, and that is not a typical age for getting Shingles. She also broke out right after the treatment, and someone told me here that medications for viruses such as AZT can cause the same outbreak. It also has happened to one other person, that I am aware of.

So on the balance of the evidence, I think it did cause the outbreak.

If one side of the contacts are getting warm, the other side may not be working. I would have someone test the out put, or note if it is one wire and handhold causing the problem, or is it where it is plugged into.

The wires on these are prone to breaking inside the insulation from repeated flexing. I have had it happen already.

Your husband is right, it is anecdotal. But that is a form of evidence we use daily. It is not invalid because it is anecdotal. In another words every effective treatment out there for anything worked prior to the study done on it. The study only validates or invalidates the result, it does not create the result.

The only interference problem I have had, is using the GB-4000 too close to my laptop. It will interfere if it is within a couple of feet in RF mode. The wires radiate a short distance, as well as the machine itself.

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Used double tube yesterday and feel much better today. Didn't really have any reaction when I used it or felt any different though. Ran rickettsia.

In the evening I ran borrelia program and my lymph nodes in my neck and jaws feel much better. They were really hurting before.

Did the dishes last night [woohoo]
and today! [woohoo]

I usually can't do the dishes more than 3 or 4 times a month. Can't stand that long before I get shaky, back hurts and I'm just exhausted.

Also, noticing my 10 yr old golden retriever is not groaning and moaning in pain like she was constantly. I think she has lyme. She's gained weight but hardly eats much in last few months. Also, another dog, a catahoula, has had terrible ear problems with various vets and medicines couldn't relieve. She's not shaking her head and pawing at her ears and crying like before. I run alot of parasite programs and I think that's helping the dogs.

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Wow thats interesting that you notice a change in your dogs from your rifing.

Amazing

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Is there considered a maximum amount of time per week to rife? I have gotten all my info from the guy that I bought my rife and so far the maximum time he has allowed me to rife is 100min within a 5 day time period.
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JarJar--- It depends on how sick you are, how well you detox, what your bacterial load is, how long you have been treated, how many coinfections, etc.

He is limiting your time in case you have a delayed herx coming. You need to test your body to see if your herxes are immediate or long-delayed. They say herxes can occur even two weeks after rifing, i think.

The idea is not to get overwhelmed if you have been building up a pile of dead lyme bodies. Too many microbial corpses can shut down the liver and kidneys, in severe herxes. I hope you are taking milk thistle and lemon juice if you are expecting a herx reaction?

How's it going?

PS What's jarjar? Is it a mythical bird? or a real bird?

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thanks pam sent you a pm.
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quote:
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Wow thats interesting that you notice a change in your dogs from your rifing.

Amazing

Yes, I'm happy. The catahoula would keep us up at night crying with her ears and I couldn't find anything that would give her lasting relief.

The golden I hated seeing going downhill. We were wondering how much longer she was going to last like a few months to a year maybe. Now she's getting around much better. Who nows how long she'll live but I just hated to see her suffering.

I just had a good, creative, productive day working on a new product. Foot pain is neglible which is a great blessing.

However, my neck, ears, lymph nodes around my ears & jaws are so sore. My shoulder joints also. The other thing that is scary is my memory is terrible which is very unusual for me until lyme. I have gotten the soreness to go away for a little time from rifing but don't see a big difference in my memory yet....

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The one treatment with the EM+ machine did not kill the remainder of the Lyme in my wife.

The treatment tonight is provoking a slight reaction, so we are not out of the woods yet.

I am strongly considering the new MOPA device. It may or may not remove the last of the Lyme, but I will not know until I try it out.

I can keep her well enough, but treating for the rest of her life seems impractical, and I do not think this will become any easier with age.

I need more penetration, and for that, I need more power. I think it is that simple, I just hope I am right.

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Dan

What is a MOPA device?

I'm resolved that I'll need to rife ongoing, although not so often, once I feel better. The issue now is to get better.

Been reading this thread (http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/93460)
and reading things of springshowers, plus more along the lines of various viral infections like ebv, cmv, hpv, strep, staph, etc. In the past, I've gone to dr's that tested me with antibody counts over 4,000.

I'm astounded that they didn't do more testing to see why the heck it was so high. They told me I had thyroiditis, enlarged lymph nodes, lupus and it was amazing I could work. This was before the tick bite.

Anyway, I'm rifed for strep last night and that helped painful, swollen lymph nodes in my neck and jaws. I've had strep numerous times in past and have had quite acute episodes.

Tonight I rifed for cmv and herpes programs (which ebv is a herpes virus). Never had std herpes but seems like herpes family is related to some other of these viruses.

I hope I'm onto to something to rife to reduce my viral load. Also, going to get vitD3 and start taking lots of Vit C.

Came across this interesting website:

http://www.enby.se/english/start-eng.htm

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A good read overall Esp if you have the GB4000

Research Protocol Using a Frequency Generator
To Reduce Pain and Symptoms in Cancer

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:pQcRLujNMLIJ:cancertutor.com/Cancer03/Spec01_GB4000.pdf+Detox+Box+and+Frequency+to+channel+conversion&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgOQyr jiwAoi8wtnXbZ21e0LsBM1YXrZFr7BdJoxXsp29IG1tqhSJ2VR3ljw5ivpi3ecsLL1ygKeTh0p0EcXy8hZ5n-d5QLYb-eqswqzDNNi35WSd05SKHyoG_gPEfAOfvXOjcd&sig=AHIEtbTKJsiDU4CiQK2_hpxQavTSX9_1ag

It tells you specific freqencies for cancer and though overall includes microbes and detox etc

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Does anyone have the Detox Box? I would like to know if I can get a copy of the manual to read?
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I tried using my rife at the same time as my ionic foot bath. It was quite intense and changed the feeling and the foot bath affect was more intense and varied.

If anyone else has a foot bath and rife it might be something you want to try.

WIth my rife it also suggests you can actually put in the wet pads into water and your feet in it and run the rife using the hand cylinders too or ray tubes.

I have not yet tried that but am planning on it.

Anyone has any other interesting combos of set up to share?

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Has anyone tried stimulating the immune system ?

Here are frequencies labelled as stimulating the IMMUNE SYSTEM:

8 1862 18620 2008 20080 2128 21275 2180 3347 5611 2791 3448 2929 4014 5611 2867 2855 432

That's one i'm NOT ----NOT--- going to try, since the immune system could be disastrous to play with; although my immune system could really use some boosting!

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Spring, your toes are farther cured than mine. I did repost the frequencies not too far back. My toenails are not cured yet; i'm jjust glad to be rid of the awful, thick grey cracked skin around them!
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Dan, why don't you try photon therapy? It worked for Selma. Selma says it was the ONLY treatment that gave her immune system enough energy to overcome lyme and co's.

Selma never used the PE-1 alone, but always accompanied by homeopathic nosodes; she says it's too powerful to use undirected, unlimited.

Here's the link for the group that uses the PE-1:

/health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bionic880-PE1/

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Dan, what are these frequencies multiplied by 10?
(e.g., above, 1862, 18620). You double your frequencies and call them harmonics, is that right? so where are these 10 multiples coming from?

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A guy on another forum has a Photon Wand with his GB-4000 :

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The Photon Wand is built specially for the GB4000. Here is the website:

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/irx%20photon%20wand.htm

Currently selling for $120 and free shipping. I just have it for a week and have tried the two recommended frequencies - 531 hz and 728 hz. check out the NASA references.

UNQUOTE

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Thanks for all the ideas!

----Polly Polygonum
------or Nilufar Knotweed

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The MOPA amplifier is new, and will work with the GB-4000. I already have the GB-4000 so I would need to buy the MOPA amp and tube. there is a picture of it here.

http://futurefrequency.com/component/content/article/3-front-page/62-mopa-amplifier-replica

By the time you are done, it is about $3,000 so my wife is thinking the ones we got are good enough.

They are good enough to keep her well, but I cannot get rid of the last bit of it, and I do not want to treat her forever. I do not know what the remaining Lyme is doing, but it certainly is not going to help her in any way.

Somebody needs to test this thing out also, to see if it works better. It is the closest thing to the original Rife device ever made. If it does not work better, I have wasted $3,000. I am willing to chance it because I think the odds are good it will work better since it is a high voltage, low current device, like the original.

She can be a stubborn one at times.

Dan

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Polly. I found my old message that gave me the numbers for foot fungal problems.

I also started putting on food grade concentrated Peroxide on them. WOW it packs a punch. IT was painful the first couple of times and I could feel it absorbing under my nails and though it sure cleaned them up and I am hoping killed alot.

Still waiting to see how they grow. I now add some peroxide to my foot baths too and trying to give them a lot of attention and not let up. STubborn stubborn infection huh. I am sure it is in the blood stream.

I took lamasil for 1 year and it took all that time to get 90 percent better. I should not have let my doctor take me off yet after all that.. The little bit left is all it took and bamb.. it spread fast like in a few weeks and I was backwards a whole year!!

Yikes. Scary how tough these infections can be.

It is making me think about how persistant we have to be with anything we use. and when we feel better DO Not stop or even let up at all!!

Keep on keeping on.!!

Blessings to all

I am not afraid to use the IMmune boosting numbers at all!

I will try them!!

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SS -- please report back on the immune boosting numbers. I am thinking of trying them as well.

I think of them like the detox frequencies that we use.

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I have been rifing for one week so far and no changes with anything. Still have gobs of foot and arm pain. My arm joints hurt terribly as always as do the sols of my feet burn 24 hours a day. There are so many frequencies it could take years to get through em all to find the right ones.

I know my biggest issues are Babs and Bart.

I have been rifing two frequencies a night, for a total of 15 minutes each night. Nothing noicable. Maybe I just have some other rare disease.

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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I rifed yesterday with double tube beamray and it packed a wallop.

After the session, I was very tired, spacey, very little short term memory. Came home and felt really strange. Just wanted to crash. Talked to friend today that sat under it also and he was the same. We ran cmv & ebv programs.

Today, I'm a little spacey, want to rest. Interesting, because with the single tube I'm not getting much of a reaction except occasionally.

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Photon therapy is my only other option at this point, so I do have that on the back burner.

I have heard those photon wands tend to burn out in a short time. Maybe they have improved them since they came out?

I do want to explore the frequency method to its conclusion one way or another. I would like to keep the treatment, as simple as possible if it will result in a cure. If it does not, then I will do whatever is needed to get that result.

Rife did not treat for very long to eliminate a pathogen. I am hoping a machine like his will have the same result.

I do not know where the multiples of ten came from, but I have seen that done before. I do not know the theory behind that way of increasing a frequency, but I am not an expert on frequency conversion. I use harmonics just as you said, higher harmonics are just doubled and lower ones are just divided by two.

Dan

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I have been doing Rife 15 minutes a night. Nothing so far.

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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What frequencies are you using Richedie?

What are you targeting? Coinfection frequencies are still kind of sketchy, at least to me.

Lyme should be 432, 306 and or 612, 2016. These are the better ones we have used.

What machine are you using?

Dan

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