quote:Originally posted by RZR: I can't say enough good things about the GB-4000 and MOPA. It is such a relief not to use the hand cylinders and foot plates.
Juli has been great helping me get everything set up and going...thank you so much! I just hate to keep bugging you.
Does the MOPA have an operating manual of its own? If so, I didn't receive that. I do have the "Quick Start Video" that has helped immensely.
Not that I know of!
I am still confused about some things. First of all, my unit is about one year old. I cannot get the mili-amp meter to go above 120. I did turn the GB-4000 output level up on high. Should I send the MOPA for an update to increase power or could something else be wrong?
It's probably okay.. when using the higher harmonic's my meter reads about the same on the first machine I bought my newer one will read higher. If your meter gets any lower then it may be time to order a new vac tube but I really think your readings are fine.
When setting the carrier freq. counter to 3.1 or 3.3, does the handheld meter need to touch the red antenna? There is a youtube video showing the meter just above the actual lit ray tube and someone setting it that way. Does this need to be reset before each use? Is it necessary to key 20,000 into GB-4000 and run to set freq as shown on "quick start video?" I will be moving my ray tube before and after each session.
On the newer models Jeff instructs a different way of setting the CF but with the machine you have if you want the most accurate settings do it the way the DVD instructs. The CF can drift a bit when the machine gets warm but don't worry about it just set it the best you can.
Is it ok to let wires from MOPA hang down in front? I am not letting them cross each other, but wires are not long enough for me to put behind MOPA and be able to stretch ray tube where I need it.
It is okay that the wires hang down in front of the MOPA. Just keep them away from the GB 4000 itself. Make sure you are not touching the wires when touching the key pad. You don't have to reset your CF each time unless you bump it or need to change it from one CF to another.
How did you learn so much about the MOPA and GB-4000? Is there a website that can help so I don't have to bug you guys? lol!
I learned mostly from Dan, DVD and Jeff. I do not know of a website.
Thanks....Juli or Dan!
Appreciate all your help....truly!
Your Welcome!
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This morning my husband was running the detox frequencies (10,000, 3176, 522, 164, 89, 24)when he suddenly felt very weird - almost as though he was loosing it.
He has them programmed in and they run 10 minutes each (if I remember right) He's been doing the detox for quite awhile now... Could something suddenly turn up like this?
He also felt very weird yesterday morning - but we aren't sure what he was rifing at the time.
The other things he's rifing for are adrenals, head cold, babesia, relaxation and the detox set.
Has anyone else had weird things happen?
After he felt better again - he rifed the adrenals and is currently doing the relaxation - he's sleeping now.
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Again....thank you so much, Juli!
I tried to give you a break by posting to the forum...thought someone else might help you out by answering. LOL!
So, the power has to do with the vac tube? That's interesting. I may try a new one of those in the future to avoid shipping the MOPA. I won't worry about it for now though.
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Yes, the vac tube can be getting weak and replacing it should give you a little more of a reading on your meter but even when mine was new running the higher harmonic's I averaged about 140-150 tops if that. I did have Jeff send me extra ones but they should last for a very long time.
MannaMe,
I've had some strange things happen along the way such as loosing it" more then once especially when running Bart Freqs. If it is bothersome have him cut his times a bit then try and work them back up slowly. Probably a die off or moving of the toxins would be my guess.
If I only had an answer for all the weird things I have experienced along the way but in the end I gained my health!?
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I found these videos on using the GB-4000 and MOPA...also some videos available on using GB with SR-4 amp. Some of the settings recommended are different than what we use, but videos help with getting use to setting and using the instruments.
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Wow! GB-4000 and MOPA are kicking my butt!
I was rifing babs and bart 18 minutes each with GB-4000 and SR-4 Amp. Since starting to use the MOPA, I had to back down to 8 minutes and still herxing!
I was also sleeping well before MOPA, now I am waking up all through the night.
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Yip! That's a lot more power and hits deeper within!
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Juli,
Do you remember if insomnia was a problem for you when you first starting using the MOPA?
I thought rifing was helping me sleep better....that is until now.
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No, I do not remember that being an issue when I switched to using the MOPA.
Are you running it at bedtime? Maybe the light from the tube or it could be just because you are keeping an eye on it? I didn't sleep well when I first moved it into my bedroom but it's not a problem for me now.
I've learned if I can break a bad sleeping pattern or should I say insomnia for 3 nights in a row then I'm good to go. Benadryl for 3 nights might be helpful. It helps with herxing too!
At times rifing has put me to sleep as I know it has others also but things can change.
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Yes, I am running the MOPA at bedtime.
Forgot about Benadryl...will definitely try that tonight.
Thanks!
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Is it important to update GB-4000 and MOPA or SR-4 to latest power and software version?
Do most people ever update?
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I like the added features to the GB 4000 so I do update although it's only important if you want them. Now that your running the MOPA you can set your own CF so that's not a reason to update. I do have a MOPA that I am going to send in and have Jeff update to the latest power but I'm sure the old power output is enough.
I know you are running your machine at night and so I wanted to mention I had Jeff install a switch on the back of my GB 4000 that completely turns of all beeping which is really nice. You can set your machine to mute but it still beeps when all programs are finished.
Cawpo,
For lyme many have found good results in using 612 hz, 2016 hz and 432 hz. Test them and see if you get a reaction and if so I would suggest using them. Some have reported no reactions when using 432 hz but for me it was my strongest hit.
For Bart Henslae 832 hz seems to be effective and for Bart Quintana 357 hz.
I don't have Babesia so maybe someone else can answer.
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Hi - This is a wonderful thread with lots of very valuable info. I am new to the rife world and have a couple of questions that I am hoping someone can help me with.
I have been treating Lyme, Bart, Babs for three years with lots of antibiotic combos. You know the story. Anyway, I am at 75% of normal but lose ground when I go off antibiotics. My body is having a harder and harder time with the antibiotics. So I have made a decision to buy a rife machine.
I am deciding between a Doug Coil and a GB4000. I am leaning toward a GB4000 because of its portability and ease of use. In addition if it works for me I am able to then purchase a MOPA device to add to it thus making it an even better more powerful machine.
Here is my concerns/questions. I have heard that the doug coil machines are stronger and penetrate deeper. They also do not require a person to use a hand held.
My first question is would those of you who have a gb4000 buy it again today if you had it to do over?
Also, I am thinking that the gb4000 will work well for me for a while then I can add the MOPA for extra power down the line. Is this an accurate thought or should I be looking more at the doug coil?
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quote:Originally posted by delljen: Hi - This is a wonderful thread with lots of very valuable info. I am new to the rife world and have a couple of questions that I am hoping someone can help me with.
I have been treating Lyme, Bart, Babs for three years with lots of antibiotic combos. You know the story. Anyway, I am at 75% of normal but lose ground when I go off antibiotics. My body is having a harder and harder time with the antibiotics. So I have made a decision to buy a rife machine.
I am deciding between a Doug Coil and a GB4000. I am leaning toward a GB4000 because of its portability and ease of use. In addition if it works for me I am able to then purchase a MOPA device to add to it thus making it an even better more powerful machine.
Here is my concerns/questions. I have heard that the doug coil machines are stronger and penetrate deeper. They also do not require a person to use a hand held.
Well, I suppose that would depend on who you are asking. The the Doug Coil has more power but does it really? It's not using the same fields as the GB 4000 and MOPA. They operate on two entirely different principles.
The GB 4000 and Amp or MOPA use's a Radio Frequency and a Carrier Wave. The MOPA puts out about 118 Watts. This is the Exact same technology that Dr. Royal Rife used other then his machine put out less then half the wattage.
The Coil does not uses a Radio Frequency or Carrier Wave but a EM field so I'm not sure how one could compare them or if it could really be measured in terms of power.
The RF field is believed to kill pathogens quicker then other fields. I'm not so sure the statement that the Doug Coil hits deeper would be accurate!
Using the GB 4000 with the Amp is a contact device the MOPA is not. Last I heard the Doug Coil requries holding or placing the Coil in different areas of the body during sessions.
My first question is would those of you who have a gb4000 buy it again today if you had it to do over?
Yes, I am pro GB 4000 & MOPA girl but I'm sure the Doug Coil is a very good machine as well! I have 3 GB 4000's and 2 MOPA's and I'd buy them again.
Also, I am thinking that the gb4000 will work well for me for a while then I can add the MOPA for extra power down the line. Is this an accurate thought or should I be looking more at the doug coil?
Yes, you can!
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I have neurological lyme and am using a doug coil rife machine I wondered does anyone know good frequencies to use?
And want kind of herx reactions do people have with neurological lyme?
Thank you
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Cawpo....
I am having good results for babesia with 76 hz and 1584 hz with the GB-4000. I used these same frequencies for 7 months with the DT EMEM machine and did not get rid of babs symptoms. I was also on abx at the same time.
My babs sweats and chills are completely gone now after 2 months of the GB-4000! This is huge for me because I treated babs with abx for 2-1/2 years. Meds would help my symptoms but never made them go away completely!
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Thank you so much for your reply to my post. This is a big investment and your information was very very helpful. I really appreciate it!
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I have neurological lyme and am using a doug coil rife machine I wondered does anyone know good frequencies to use?
And want kind of herx reactions do people have with neurological lyme?
Thank you
Whatever your symptoms are now they could get worse before getting better. My vision may have gotten a bit more blurry when I first started out.
612 hz, 2016 hz and 432 hz are good freqs used for lyme. I later converted them to higher harmonic's which is simple enough to do if you ever decide to do so.
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I have neurological lyme and am using a doug coil rife machine I wondered does anyone know good frequencies to use?
And want kind of herx reactions do people have with neurological lyme?
Thank you
Whatever your symptoms are now they could get worse before getting better. My vision may have gotten a bit more blurry when I first started out.
612 hz, 2016 hz and 432 hz are good freqs used for lyme. I later converted them to higher harmonic's which is simple enough to do if you ever decide to do so.
Thank you for these I was wondering how long do you use these frequencies for? and do you use them on a doug coil? Thanks
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You can use these on a Doug Coil. Start slow maybe a minute or two until you know how you will react. I worked each freq up to 20-25 mins 3 days per week.
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Just some general information.
You can use any of the single frequencies used with the GB-4000 for any other Rife type frequency device. It does not matter if it is a EMEM, Coil or something else. It is the frequency that does the work.
Many of these Lyme frequencies came originally from Doug, who invented the "Doug Coil", but we use them on most any machine with good results.
The length of time can vary a lot between machines and people. There are far too many variables to know ahead of time how long to run them.
Start with a short run and work your time up once you know your response. One minute is plenty long for a first use of a frequency.
Babesia can be totally eliminated using the CAFL frequencies. We also used Char Boehm's DNA based frequencies, but others have just used the CAFL frequencies. Make sure you treat for a couple of months after symptoms are gone, or you will get it back again.
Lyme and Bart are more difficult to totally eliminate, but you can reduce it down to almost nothing.
Although these machines are not generally cheap, they can be used for multiple infections. Given that most people with Lyme have several infections, this is one of the most cost effective treatment methods for this disease.
Thanks to everyone for posting your results and helping others on this thread. Juli in particular as she puts a lot of time into it.
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Juli Why do you have three GB4000 and Two MOPA'S? I am asking because I am trying to save enough money to buy a GB400 and there is no way I could ever save enough to buy more then one.
quote:Originally posted by sick: Juli Why do you have three GB4000 and Two MOPA'S? I am asking because I am trying to save enough money to buy a GB400 and there is no way I could ever save enough to buy more then one.
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You don't need more then one!!! I had so many infections I bought two MOPA's to save rifing time. I got a really good deal on E bay on a couple of my GB 4000's so I guess I have just collected them
Actually, I now only use one machine because I run everything while I sleep.
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I recently made contact with Jeff and asked him about the contact devices (GB 4000 with pads) creating sidebands.
Dan was right they do! He said they create the very same as the MOPA but not as powerful.
The main reason I contacted him is I wanted to know more about the sidebands and the math behind them. Below is my question along with his response which I thought was pretty interesting.
When running a sweep such as the Rife/Peter/Protocol sweep I know it creates sidebands above and below the actual freq that is being run at the time. Do they know how often it is actually hitting the same freq throughout the sweep? I'm just wondering is there a math?
Answer: When you run the Peters sweep it only hits the frequency one time. If you run the 500 Hertz to 24000 Hertz sweep it will hit it over 20 times with sidebands of various power levels.
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Very interesting....thanks for sharing.
So, guess this means it would be better to run 500 hz to 24000 hz instead of the Rife/Peters/Protocol sweep? Does Jeff think this big sweep is all that is needed for lyme & co?
It's just really hard to run that for 4 hours because I don't want to give up my individual frequencies for lyme, babs, and bart, etc.
It might be good to rotate this sweep one night and individual freq. the next night, etc. This sweep would also hit all lyme, babs, bart, etc. Correct?
There is a 2-hour sweep from 24000 hz down to 15000 hz, but this one only hits each frequency once instead of 4 times.
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I don't know the answer but it does make me stop and think. It is said it will hit anything one could possibly have!
Like always not enough answers but if I had to do it all over again I'd do it all the same (Dan's Path) because I am symptom free now. I think it may be time for me to start dropping a few of my single freqs and incorporate this sweep into my schedule as I back off my overall rifing.
I did run a sweep from 24000 hz to 20000 hz for 15 mins with no reaction then 24000 to 16000 for 1/2 hour with no reaction but when I ran this sweep from 24000 to 12000 for 45 mins I hit something running this on a 3.1 CF.
I know in the past when I have accidently ran my single freqs or R/P/P sweep on the 3.1 CF instead of my usual 3.3 CF I herxed really hard when I was no longer reacting to the 3.3 CF. I think for me at this point I will begin running this sweep slowly and running it on the 3.1 CF as I back off some of the other freqs/sweeps I have been using. I have been running 832 hz and 357 hz daily for 8 months for 30 mins each that being said I think it's time I see if I still need them!
It's tough because I already know I'm going to be in for some herxing and it's going to be hard making myself sick again when I feel so good.
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Juli I don't understand a thing you are talking about. Is it hard to learn? I am still on the fence on whether to go with a GB4000 off of Ebay or keep saving my money for a new one from Jeff. I haven't got him called yet so I don't know what he charges.
Do I need a GB4000, a SR-4 Amplifier and a MOPA or can I get by with one or two of them.
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It's not hard to learn very simple!! We will guide you as you go. One step at a time.
I would recommend the single freqs in the beginning so try not to look too far ahead. I've had good luck with the machines I have bought off E bay just make sure you read the auction.
You don't need the SR-4 Amplifier if you are buying the MOPA so you can cut your expense. I never use mine. You'll just have to be VERY careful and go slow and or cut the power down if needed when starting out with that much Power!!
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Juli I can not afford the MOPA. I almost have enough for the GB4000 and the SR-4 Amplifer. It would take me forver to get enough for the GB4000 and the MOPA.
Can I get very much improvement with the GB4000 and the SR- Amplifier? Or would I be wasting my money on those two?
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I got most of my improvements with using the GB 4000 and SR-4 Amp.
I haven't treated parasites with the rife but I'm sure if I have them I've hit them running the sweeps! I've never tried using single freqs for parasites but I'm sure with the right freqs it would be very effective.
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Juli, I'm using my GB-4000 but increasing my times very slowly. Do you think I'll continue to improve when moving so slowly? Is it too slow to add only seconds each time I Rife? Also, I'm only using 3 frequencies right now because when I first started I used many frequencies and way too much time for each of them. I had to cut way back to keep the herxes from killing me (at least it felt like they were). I want to continue improving but I also want to be functional while doing it. I just don't know how hard to push but yet still make progress.
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I went VERY slow increasing my time by only 15 seconds most of the time and many times holding the same times for a couple of sessions if I needed to do so. Even when I was only able to rife Bart once or twice a week for only a few minutes I was able to gain. That is why I personally do not believe for one minute that Bart reproduces as quickly as some say it does otherwise I could have NEVER knocked it down and I did!
Some pathogens that I knew that were NOT making me the sickest but I had a strong reaction when I tested I incorporated these into my schedule by keeping them under what I called The Herx Zone! Most of the pathogens I rifed took me 15 months to be able to reach 20-25 minutes of rifing times because my reactions were so serve.
It's been my experience you can win and gain even if you are unable to rife for long periods of time. I think the key is to stay on schedule and increase when you can even if it's 15 seconds. I don't think I ever held the same time for more then 3 sessions on a particular freq and I'd say on an average twice. Be honest with yourself and push when you can!
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Hi, Can somebody post or PM me Erlichia and Anaplasma frequencies, please? I've searched CAFL and here on LN and only can see Erlichia 395 Anaplasma 387, 19267.6, 959.28, 21010.14, 1046.03
Anything else? Thanks!
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Ran the Big Sweep last night from 24000 hz down down to 8000 hz using a 3.1 CF for 1 hour as I am going slow.
Woke this morning with a on going migraine that meds have little effect on controlling. Gonna have to make sure I run 10,000 hz for a few minutes directly after running this sweep in hopes of avoiding these type of headaches.
Seems something has hit me between 12000 hz and 8000 hz.
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I have been suffering from lyme for a long time, as a child I had hypertension, problems with my site, mental illness, fatigue etc. then seemingly got better for years but didn't know as much as i do now and don't think i was ever better. in my a levels it started to come back presumably through stress, this time round, i have had digestive issues, back pain, shooting pains, neck tenderness, fatigue and noise sensitivity, cystitis, and depression
slowly everything is starting to sort itself out physically, everything is improving, but I can't shake the depression, I have becom very suicidal at times, and would say this is my main symptom now stopping me from feeling normalish
we have been rifing, but i am unsure whether its working for me or not, mainly cos i am struggling to identify what is me being symptomatic and what is me herxing
I have often found myself feeling mentally worse after rifing, for example today after rifing I was crying alot and felt lonely, and insecure, I am starting to feel a bit better now.
I was wondering
a) have anyone experienced depression like this with lyme, and was it one of the last symptons to go?
b) what kind of herxes to people get? have you ever had herxs where you just feel mentally worse?
any feedback/ advice would be greatly appreciated
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Herxing from abx or rifing can cause depression, fear and anxiety. Being sick in itself can cause depression!
I always felt mentally worse after rifing more so in the beginning!! As a matter of fact I would pre warn my husband when I was going to be rifing Bart because I would RAGE so yes it can effect you mentally!!!
I once had all the symptoms you described above right down to noise sensitivity. Noise made me hurt I know to someone who has never experienced this it's hard to understand.
I don't know your rifing schedule but most will ask that very same question~ I'm I herxing or going downhill at least 100 times per week when rifing. I suppose the only way to know for sure is to stop rifing for a few days and see how you feel.
St. John's wart can be helpful for depression and also Lithium *****.
For the cystitis Swanson has a product called "Go Less" works great.
I know all this is tough we shouldn't have to be dealing with all this but be happy there is a way!!! Hope this helps!
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quote:Originally posted by Juli: Ran the Big Sweep last night from 24000 hz down down to 8000 hz using a 3.1 CF for 1 hour as I am going slow.
Woke this morning with a on going migraine that meds have little effect on controlling. Gonna have to make sure I run 10,000 hz for a few minutes directly after running this sweep in hopes of avoiding these type of headaches.
Seems something has hit me between 12000 hz and 8000 hz.
Hope your migraine is better.
I think I have decided on this big sweep instead of the R/P/P. I will start even slower than you.
How did you figure out something hit between 12000 hz and 8000 hz? Wish I could do that!
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I have been running it in segments. The first run was for 15 mins starting with 24000 hz running it down to 20000 hz. Adding 15 mins each session and adding 40000 hz. as follows..
24000 hz to 20000 hz. 2nd run> 24000 hz to 16000 Hz. 3rd> 24000 to 12000 then> 24000 to 8000 hz. It wasn't until I ran the last segment that I got this all day migraine.
I also noticed a reaction when I ran 16000 hz down to 12000 hz but that was a overall body herx that was short lived.
I'm going to keep running the R/P/P sweep but I'm gong to replace one of my weekly sessions using the Big Sweep instead. At least that is my plan for now.
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Herxing from abx or rifing can cause depression, fear and anxiety. Being sick in itself can cause depression!
I always felt mentally worse after rifing more so in the beginning!! As a matter of fact I would pre warn my husband when I was going to be rifing Bart because I would RAGE so yes it can effect you mentally!!!
I once had all the symptoms you described above right down to noise sensitivity. Noise made me hurt I know to someone who has never experienced this it's hard to understand.
I don't know your rifing schedule but most will ask that very same question~ I'm I herxing or going downhill at least 100 times per week when rifing. I suppose the only way to know for sure is to stop rifing for a few days and see how you feel.
St. John's wart can be helpful for depression and also Lithium *****.
For the cystitis Swanson has a product called "Go Less" works great.
I know all this is tough we shouldn't have to be dealing with all this but be happy there is a way!!! Hope this helps!
Thank you that is all really helpful to read/know did you find that the depression was the last sympton to go in your recovery? x
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As far as headaches, I get relief using the rife auto channel for Headache due to toxins auto channel.
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Thanks for the info I'll take a look at that auto program. I once had ran one of them AP's for my daughters migraine that she had for two days and it took it away within 10 minutes. I didn't think about me. Once I get these buggers they can be hard to get rid of. Glad to hear from you how are you doing?
mugaruka,
Yes, the depression can be the last to go but I no longer need the St. John's Wart. Your GI and bladder issue could be from Bart at least it was for me. When I began rifing Bart that is when it really flared Bart seems to be pretty toxic.
I had a Endo Scope done when I was suffering from my knee dropping GI pains and they found Gastritis. My GI put me on 40 mgs once a day of Pepcid and I took it for about 9-12 months. It might be helpful for you as well until you can get it knocked down a bit!?
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Lord Jesus, sooo much info. Thank you so much for starting this thread!
I found it yesterday but couldn't reply and have not been able to read all of it.
My experiences:
Very many frequencies are extremely effective for lyme, I use them carefully because herxes can be overwhelming and due to the depression, confusion and huge irritation and arms and legs next to unbearable somtimes.
I have experienced herxes lasting one to two weeks. Afterwards I get soo much better so its worth it.
In case this has not been mentioned yet:
Sitting closer to the machine makes the effect stronger EXPONENTIALLY.
I measure how close I sit very carefully because of this and make notes to be able to guess how long the herx is going to take.
More later!
Take good care all of you!
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Wow! So many new rifers! Keep it coming. I love reading all the info!
I still have so much to learn, but love my GB-4000 and MOPA!
The only time I have any sweats now is during rifing, but they are brief and few! After years of meds, I know babs is finally on it's way out for good!
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quote:Originally posted by RZR: Wow! So many new rifers! Keep it coming. I love reading all the info!
I still have so much to learn, but love my GB-4000 and MOPA!
The only time I have any sweats now is during rifing, but they are brief and few! After years of meds, I know babs is finally on it's way out for good!
Yea!!! Good to hear good reports and I know you'll have many more reports soon!
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I wanted to share a update on my Dogs wart. As some of you already know I had rifed my Dog for a wart using auto program 578 and by the second treatment it crumbled in my fingers. I probably should have kept rifing because it returned and is a bit bigger then before. I rifed her again and sure enough by the second 15 min session it crumbled again.
No coincident here.. this time I'm going to continue to rife her for a few more sessions even after it is completely gone. The power of rifing it is amazing to be able to see such results!
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Juli,
That is great news! Awesome that it only took 2 sessions. Hopefully with a few more treatments it won't return this time!
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quote:Originally posted by sick: Would someone be willing to list what the GB4000 has helped them with?
sick
I have been using the GB4000 since the end of October. I used the SR-4 amp until a few weeks ago, now the MOPA.
While using the SR-4 amp, babs sweats and chills went away, except still very occasional and mild while rifing. Before rife, I took abx 3-1/2 years with 18 months of babs treatment.
I still have bart, lyme, mycoplasma, EBV, parasites, and mercury. So, I am not better but a work in progress.
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Anyone seen the new MOPA that has a built-in digital frequency counter to set the freq. carrier? This eliminates the Elenco!
Can existing MOPAs be updated to this?
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Sick, I'm symptom free and still mopping up! Ive been rifing for two years this past Dec so I'm right on track even with all the Co's I had.
RZR,
that would be a good question for Jeff. Let me know if you hear anything and I'll do the same. When I get back home I'm going to send my first MOPA back to him and have it updated to the lastest power so that would be the time to have this updated as well if I can.
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The EMEM5A is great and much cheaper than a lot of the other machines out there. It does a good job at a fraction of the cost.
Second most powerful machine out there according to Bryan Rosner's book on rife.
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quote:Originally posted by faithful777: The EMEM5A is great and much cheaper than a lot of the other machines out there. It does a good job at a fraction of the cost.
Second most powerful machine out there according to Bryan Rosner's book on rife.
This machine was not powerful enough for me. Maybe it's because I had used abx for 32 months before I started using it. I used it 7 months, along with abx, and I could not tell it did anything.
Everyone is different, but I wish I had went straight for the GB-4000.
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Juli...
I will let you know if I hear anything about the MOPA.
I really feel like I can't send mine in for updates because I sold my original GB with SR-4 amp, so I would have nothing to use.
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If it were my child it would be my first line of defense but I'd keep it under my hat!
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Ran a sweep from 6400-6800 hz with a 3.3 carrier freq. for 30 minutes = herx! Hope it doesn't last too long.
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Yeah, that sweep does the job for sure! You probably hit a few things you didn't know you have and then some!
I ran the Big Sweep Sunday night from 24000 down to 4000 for 1 hr 15 mins and it began hitting me right away in my knees. Ouch!!! The next day I had a really bad migraine as I did when I ran it before so I ran the AP for migraines for 10 mins and it took away the pain pretty quickly but I still had pressure. Jarjar, I would have tried the AP for headache from toxins but I didn't want to gamble using all them freqs at least not just yet so I went with the AP that had a little less freqs in it. Thanks it did get me to at least try them and it worked!
I did however remove 5000 hz and 20 hz from the program because I have had bad reactions to them in the past and I wasn't up for anymore herxing. I don't know if they would bother me any more but I wasn't up for the test.
Update on my dog.. I have been running the AP 578 every other day or maybe three and I looked today and now where the wart was it is slightly oozing. Looks like I may have gotten it at ground level. Amazing!
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Question for those with the MOPA -- tonight I started running it and shortly thereafter I noticed a burning smell. Then I saw the light (tube) had turned off but the machine was still running. I quickly turned it off and checked everything and then when I turned it back on again the smell had stopped. It is running now but I am a little nervous about sleeping next to it tonight. Has anyone had this happen? What does it mean?
Also - question for Juli - how long did you rife your dog for the wart every other day? That is so cool you were able to get rid of it.
Thanks, tickbattler
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They can do that but my first/older MOPA seems to do it more often especially when I pause and then restart. I'm not sure if it's the MOPA or the GB that cause's the problem. I know Jeff once told me that he might need to ``re flash" something if if got worse. I have never smelled anything burning though so I would be concerned too. If it is working alright now it's probably fine but I would still check with Jeff.
I ran the AP 578 for two days in a row then it crumbled. I've been rifing her about every 3 days since.. I'll probably continue to rife her for a few more weeks.
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Has anyone gone on vacation and skipped rifing while gone?
We have not been anywhere in over 3 years now...mostly because I just haven't felt up to it. I think we might try a 4 or 5 night trip in April...thinking of going somewhere tropical. So, I don't think I will be able to take my rife machine with me.
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You must be feeling better if you are thinking about a vacation? YaaaA!
I would think you would hold good enough I would just rife up real good just before leaving!
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Just got back from a weeks vacation. I think it will do you good. Have lots of fun.
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