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I am planning ahead. Vacation would be in a couple of months. I just need to make plans and reservations.
I am still experiencing lots of herxing. I don't feel great but feeling a bit better than before. I figure by the time vacation gets here I should feel up to a little R&R.
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Welcome back Dan! Hopefully you went some where warm! Sure been cold back in the NE lately!
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We missed the 25 below zero weather so we got lucky.
A vacation can really help a person clear their head. Especially in the dead of Winter. I highly recommend it.
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quote:Originally posted by RZR: I am planning ahead. Vacation would be in a couple of months. I just need to make plans and reservations.
I am still experiencing lots of herxing. I don't feel great but feeling a bit better than before. I figure by the time vacation gets here I should feel up to a little R&R.
I still get the fastest relief from herxing with liquid bentonite clay mixed with a little water.
I always keep a bottle handy. My herxing usually involves upset stomach not sure what your main symptoms are.
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My herx symptoms are pain and aching, especially lower back. I don't get upset stomach very often.
What brand liquid bentonite do you use? I need to try that.
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I use Great Plains bentonite detox. My symptoms are more upset stomach from die off that I have trouble with. I pay around 10.00 bucks for a large bottle at my health food store so it's not expensive item. Do take Probiotics later as it carries "everything" out of your system.
I use to have an old ache in my lower back from an old injury. Springshowers posted 2 frequencies that hit a lot of pathogens seems like they weren't large numbers. Perhaps 75ish and 125ish. Perhaps someone else remembers them, please post.
Anyway, one of them took away the pain in my lower back. Springshowers said the she had "riders" as she called them in her back also and the right freq would remove them. Just a thought. The numbers are in this thread somewhere.
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Thanks Juli for the help above. So cool about your dog's wart! Did you just do 5 mintues per day for 3 days?
I'm also wondering how close you sit next to the tube when you rife? I put mine as close to me as I can and even sleep with it right next to me. Do you think that's OK? Thanks! tickbattler
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When I was really sick I sat the tube in my lap now it's within a couple of feet of me.
When I rifed my dog I just let it run the defaulted time which is about 15 minutes.
I just wanted to say.. I feel soooo good!! Yesterday I rode my bike 3 1/2 miles peddling super fast none stop plus walked over a mile. I didn't quit because I was hurting or tired I just got lazy! Lol! It is so wonderful to have my life back and not be controlled by Lyme and it's co infections!
Thanks to God who guided me to Dan's Path!
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Ran the Big Sweep using a 3.1 CF again last night as I have been running this sweep every Sunday for the past 5-6 weeks working it up slowly or should I say down.
Last night I finally ran the entire span sweeping from 24000 hz down to 500 hz. I added another 15 minutes to the sweep as I always do. Normally I wake with a off the wall migraine as a part of my herx but this morning I was surprised to wake feeling AWESOME!
I still have a ways to go before reaching the full 4 hour run time but I'm excited to finally get a break. I think what this means is that everything I have been rifing for in the past has done a pretty good job and my body is now helping me fight off more quickly anything that might be lingering.
Happy Dance!!!
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Wonderful news, Juli!
I am so happy you feel so well! Now, I am praying the rest of us can get there!
I am just in pain 24/7....not sure if it's from herxing or what. It is tolerable, but is just constantly there. I am in more pain today after running a sweep last night from 6400-6800 hz for 30 minutes, so hopefully it's herxing.
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quote:Originally posted by jarjar: I use Great Plains bentonite detox. My symptoms are more upset stomach from die off that I have trouble with. I pay around 10.00 bucks for a large bottle at my health food store so it's not expensive item. Do take Probiotics later as it carries "everything" out of your system.
I use to have an old ache in my lower back from an old injury. Springshowers posted 2 frequencies that hit a lot of pathogens seems like they weren't large numbers. Perhaps 75ish and 125ish. Perhaps someone else remembers them, please post.
Anyway, one of them took away the pain in my lower back. Springshowers said the she had "riders" as she called them in her back also and the right freq would remove them. Just a thought. The numbers are in this thread somewhere.
I am still searching for the frequencies Springshowers used for "rider" that helps lower back pain, but can't find them. Anyone have the answer?
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Methinks you just killed a whole lot of something. Mission accomplished.
I hope the rashes go away in a short time, but some detoxing is likely in order.
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quote:Originally posted by jarjar: I use Great Plains bentonite detox. My symptoms are more upset stomach from die off that I have trouble with. I pay around 10.00 bucks for a large bottle at my health food store so it's not expensive item. Do take Probiotics later as it carries "everything" out of your system.
I use to have an old ache in my lower back from an old injury. Springshowers posted 2 frequencies that hit a lot of pathogens seems like they weren't large numbers. Perhaps 75ish and 125ish. Perhaps someone else remembers them, please post.
Anyway, one of them took away the pain in my lower back. Springshowers said the she had "riders" as she called them in her back also and the right freq would remove them. Just a thought. The numbers are in this thread somewhere.
I am still searching for the frequencies Springshowers used for "rider" that helps lower back pain, but can't find them. Anyone have the answer?
Actually she shared the two frequencies as just two frequencies to hit a lot of pathogens. Just got lucky and one of them stopped my back pain.
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Good to know I am herxing!
How many months does it take before most start feeling better?
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It can take time. In the beginning while herxing I was sicker. If I didn't pause to see if I was better I always feared I was sicker.
I know you are pushing just like I did you also know you have gotten improvements but if you are concerned then stop for many days maybe 4 or 5 maybe even longer and see what you got when the dust settles. Make sure you stop everything else your doing too to get a clear assessment such as herbs, meds Etc.
The first year my herxing was making me very sick because I was herxing 99.9% of the time. Sometimes the cyst are bursting and that can cause a cycle of pain. I've read where they can stay dormant up to two years. I don't know how that works with rifing but I have had some set backs when I though I was in the clear I'm now thinking this is possibly why.
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Juli...
Herxing 99.9% of the time....that's me!
You are so right! I keep pushing, pushing....just want this nightmare to end! I am going to have to tie my hands behind my back to force myself to take a few days off rife. Maybe it would be good to run some detox programs and nothing else.
I do think some herxing could also be from taking Lamisil for nail fungus I developed thanks to good old antibiotics! It also kills systemic yeast. I can't stop that med because it is 6 weeks straight and then no more...2-1/2 weeks left.
Did you always run detox programs 203 and 471 for just 2 minutes?
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After every daily session for the first year or longer I ran AP 203 and 471 for just a few minutes each. AP 203 really helped cut the intensity of my herx but 10,000 Hz really helped with the Bart die off mostly the spinning head pain and pressure.
Been meaning to ask you~ did you ever get yourself some of that Go Less for the IC issues and if so has it helped? I think a big portion of the bladder issues are caused by Bart.
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I never did get the Go Less. My bladder issues come and go. Besides that, I am spending so much $$$ on supplements and everything.
I did order some hormone suppositories but haven't received them yet. I wanted to try that first since I have other hormonal issues.
I am also supposed to start the Cowden protocol in another week or so. My LLMD says it helps with parasites and yeast. I may wait a bit though until my symptoms settle down.
I have been running 10,000 Hz after each rifing session, but only been running AP 203 and 471 a few times a week. Maybe I should increase those.
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Last 2 nights, I only ran detox frequencies.
I am feeling a bit better! I am doing the happy dance because this means herx and rife is working! I am still going to wait another day or two before rifing again.
Thanks, Juli for reminding me that I don't need to keep pushing.
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Yes, don't under estimate them detox freqs!
Glad your getting a feel for it!
Happy Dancing with you! cha cha cha!
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Juli,
Are you still running the Big Sweep 24,000 Hz to 500 Hz? If so, how long are you running it now?
Have you stopped any of your single frequencies?
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Yes I am.. so far I am only running it on Sunday nights. I'll be running it for 1 hour and 45 minutes to night. Wooo Whooo!
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Update~ "Happy Dance" no reaction from last nights sweep!
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Most pathogens do not take months to get rid of. It appears that whatever was being hit by the sweep, is greatly reduced or gone.
Really good news.
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- CYST FORM affected by rife?
Good questions and some very good replies have been posted. Still, please feel free to join in this discussion started by katrinab.
Topic: rife machine and lyme in cyst form -
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- THANK YOU to everyone keeping this thread so very active. It's really important. The detail and time posters take is very much appreciated.
I still have much to study and hope to finally get into getting going with this within a couple weeks. I've been getting too distracted but positive posts here have me realizing that I've been spinning my wheels and it's time now to focus.
I've been intimidated by all that can go along with this but need to zero in now.
Thanks, again, to all who share. It really matters. -
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- QUIETER FAN for EMEM5a?
I doubt anyone has an answer but just wondering. I know there is a company that makes quieter fans for computers ( http://www.acousticpc.com/index.html )
Years ago, after receiveing this, I contacted DT, the builder of my EMEM5a. He has never had anyone express trouble with the sound of the fan.
Has anyone else replaced a fan in an EMEM5a? Did it help?
Severe hyperacusis, ear plugs or muffs of no help regarding fan vibration -- and the inability to really listen to music for long -- well, the fan noise is just one thing that has kept me from utilizing my rife.
[the others are: that heavy metals and parasites are said to also require attention before and during and sorting out how I can do that on about $50. a month is daunting. I'm sure there is a way and I just need to study that in a more focused way . . .]
SOUND, VIBRATION is the main obstacle for me. Replacing the fan seems the most logical option but not sure how much that would really help -- or if there are electrical considerations with that.
The link above seems the most appropriate for a fan that may be quieter by design.
After any replies, I would contact the maker of my rife before doing anything --
does he still take calls? Anyone know. If so, what time frame for calling as I don't want to disturb his family time (I know it's in the ET zone)? -
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Hi Keebler,
Yes, DT still takes calls. I was told by a member here to call DT in the early evening...not after 7:30 or so.
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quote:Originally posted by Juli: Update~ "Happy Dance" no reaction from last nights sweep!
Doing the happy dance with ya!
So, are you still running all your single frequencies too?
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Thought my sweats were gone for good, but had a few hot flashes the past couple of days....Bummer!
I am still rifing with all the same frequencies.
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quote:Originally posted by Juli: Update~ "Happy Dance" no reaction from last nights sweep!
Doing the happy dance with ya!
So, are you still running all your single frequencies too?
Yes, I haven't let go of them yet.. working on cutting back a bit though! Lol
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Keebler I don't think there are many you are as loyal as you to post. Whenever I had a question (not in the rife group) you was one of the first to answer me and I always repected your advice.
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WooHoo I am sooo happy. I ordered a GB4000 and AMP. today. I was saving to buy me a different van but decided to get a rife instead. (God I pray it works.) I got to thinking what good is a van if you don't feel like going some where.
It was a hard decision to make. I have saved for so long and when I trade vehicles it is always past time to do it.
It would have been so easy to go with a van instead but with the rife then if other family members need to use it they can.
So, all you rife people out their prepare for my questions as I am sure I will have some.
And maybe I can change my name after I use it awhile to: happy and healthy
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- sick,
Thanks. Now I have to get off the board and start taking care of myself. Can't do both. I should fix my computer to be able to come only to the rife thread for study - and stop cruising other threads as energy is so limited.
I admit that "ADD" gets the better of me and I'm a bit of a wanderer. Time to focus. -
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Sick....
I think you made a wise decision! You will love your GB-4000!
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How are you presently treating your Lyme Keebler?
It is easy to get buried in information, theory and multitudes of treatment options.
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quote:Originally posted by D Bergy: How are you presently treating your Lyme Keebler?
It is easy to get buried in information, theory and multitudes of treatment options.
Dan
I call them bunny trails Dan! So glad I hopped on the path you were using and stayed with it. Somehow I finally got something right!!! lol
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I have a thousand Bunny trails with Crohn's Disease. I know that buried feeling. I need a bigger shovel.
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- Q: How am I presently treating Lyme ?
Not really. Just one or two specific antimicrobial herbs, one - four support herbs, excellent food plan. That's as far as the budget goes.
Andrographis has been an excellent herb to cover many bases. Berberine helps to some degree but is not really systemic.
I fully understand about dropping antimicrobial herbs before and during rife.
Support herbs are still vital to me, however, to help minimize seizures especially.
Heavy metals
Parasites
as they can be released with rife, that is where I get stuck. So much and it's all so expensive. (I cannot tolerate much of even sea salt so that's not been good for me).
My ND (who offers me a very low rate but whom I still see very infrequently due to logistics) is not LL and does not address either heavy metals or parasites. Just too complex.
My heavy metal tests show elevated mercury, cadmium. I have done well with sort spurts of DMSA. Greens powders are good to me, too.
I've read all the heavy metal threads but those are just so complex, vastly expensive and best to have a doctor. Not possible.
Parasites - I can't do the salt/C (even with ESTER C, it burns my mouth tissue too much) . . . I have to figure out which herbs may be good for parasites but are not anti-sprirochetal, too. Those would not be okay prior to and during rifing for lyme (as I understand it).
Andrographis is an excellent herb for parasites and also covers lyme and other things. But, that would have to be stopped.
Money is just not there to do much. Andrographis has been the most affordable that covers so many bases, up to now - at least keeping me from getting worse.
Though, I get too tired replying to basic posts here - stuff that can help but I run in circles trying to put out fires for others who may not have all the detail they need about this or that herb (and the wrong use can cause trouble).
But I have to stop that. Part of it is that it's my way to wake up - my "crossword puzzle" and to get me writing something, just to get juices flowing. Diversion more than bunny trails, though.
Much time is spent trying to help others new here with basic detail. But there are many others who help in that regard and that's a good thing. I can let go.
So, I'm thinking that certain greens powders for heavy metal stuff, certain adrenal and liver support, a couple other key support things that seem to help and
maybe DMSA (with greens, all I can afford or tolerate) . . .
and then finally getting on with my rife, even if does sound like ten jet engines in my head.
I need to explore the computer fan site for it's possible use to replace the fan in my EMEM5a rife.
But, with me, any sound, any vibration is still torture. But, torture with a possible improvement is better than this ongoing torture of such illness and being homebound now for over 4 years.
I'm certainly not getting where I need to go doing what I've been doing. Gotta change.
I've copied key posts here up to page 45. Now, I have to get to work on the last 10 pages or so, gather all the possible frequencies for the different infections . . . figure out the common ones . . . and get moving.
I'll also re-read Rosner to be sure I'm not missing something.
I so appreciate all those who keep their eyes on this thread. It's so great to have this here.
I have to figure out how to keep focus where it needs to be, and not go off on someone else's bunny trail. I like that term. It's visual and can be some fun to play with when I stray.
Hippity Hoppity does not necessarily get one to the end of the bunny trail, rather, just stuck in the rat maze, eh?
Good news is that some acoustically abusive neighbors recently moved out. I was literally paralyzed by their noise abuse for a long time. Now, the new neighbors are much better and I have a better chance with less seizures from all the door slamming.
Environment really matters. So glad it's better here now. And that can change overnight in apartments so I have this window where all the neighbors seem okay. Good to have that, finally.
Goal: $100. to $150. month limit on all supplements(including vitamins). That's been what's been tripping me up the most. But, with rife, that should actually be more possible.
It's finding just the right ones that has be in the maze - so I divert and never really get back to it. Staying focused has never been my forte but it has to become that now. That working "smarter" stuff.
For B vitamins, Brewer's yeast, from bulk at grocery, is far more affordable.
For vitamin C, Hibiscis Tea.
For D, I'm hoping that eating a lot of mushrooms will do the trick but need to study that - and other foods more for detail.
I'd like to get as many nutrients from food as possible but that's a mighty deep area of study, too. For now, just keeping lots of color and clean sources for anything that goes in.
This is not intended to send anyone on my own Bunny Trails -- just explaining.
I need to sit down with articles, books, pencil paper and columns of costs with my calculator to figure it all out, I guess. I'm very visual.
First thing, is the fan issue. That's the main question I had as to if anyone ever replaced with a special quieter fan. Likely not. Still, I can take that from here if I just stay focused. -
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quote:Originally posted by D Bergy: I have a thousand Bunny trails with Crohn's Disease. I know that buried feeling. I need a bigger shovel.
Dan
Lol! Keep digging Dan because I know one day you'll be blazing a good path for others living with Crohns as well!
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Not Happy Dancing today looks like I may have spoke to soon! I began herxing about 22 hours out after running the Big Sweep. Another bad headache all day long and feel flu-ish. (is that a word?) Feeling better now.
It's so hard making myself sick when I am feeling so good but I'm going to keep going with the Big Sweep but now at a snails pace and try and keep it under the herxing zone.
I don't think my reaction is caused from a lyme pathogen because my reactions started 37 hours out. Don't think it's Bartonella because it had no affect on my feet.
I'm thinking it may be hitting something different then I have rifed for. When I tested 676 hz used for H-pylori or even 20 hz for parasites it caused this type of reaction too so it's hard to know for sure what I am really hitting. I may never know. I suppose this is why I'm running it is to mop up anything I may have missed along the way. I am a little concerned about that 5000 hz though because it once caused me some pretty bad GI issues. Ick.
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I'm not sure about the heavy metals seems I've read something about people using Freq Tx's for that I'll keep an eye open for you.
The GB should help you with the parasites I see no reason why it wouldn't so long as you run them specific freqs!
Congrats on your new machine!
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I've read where it is good to use Bentonite Clay to help absorb the metals out of your system after rifing. I'm sure there are other things you can do such a detoxing but this is what I remember. For more info here is the original link on the rifeforum.com http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4758&highlight=heavy+metals
This list may assist for all kinds of Heavy Metals
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Just a quick update gang. First of all god bless Dan, I had stomach issues that I always presumed were bartonella related. Low and behold it was H-pylori that Dan had dealt with. The 676 freq. that he suggested I use at a higher harmonic has knocked it into remission. So one less infection to deal with.
I am still working with my scaler panel attached to my gb4000 and was planning on deciding if I want to move on to the MOPA at the start of Feb. All of the sudden at the end of Jan I started having days where I feel half way human again and I don't want to backslide and go a week or two while I get my gb4000 upgraded for the MOPA. So will weigh my options at a later date.
When I say half way human I mean I went out and took turns jogging and walking fast last week. Something I use to not have the energy to think about.
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- sick,
Your rife machine will be very different from mine. My EMEM5a will not do any sweeps and it's very time intentive to hit a lot of different frequencies. Each single one has to be dialed up.
And my machine can only run for 30 minutes at a time (so it does not get overheated, as per the builder of it).
Glad to see Juli posted some heavy metal number for you but
still, there may be "mopping up required" so they are not recirculated when released. I'm not sure how a rife machine actually handles heavy metals as they are not like a microbe.
Still, when stuff is hit with a rife, debris still has to be carefully excorted out of the body so it doesn't get deposited behind.
there is a different in heavy metals binders, mobilizes and (yet another term).
As for parasites, when borrelia is hit, it can release parasites and heavy metals so they have to be dealt with at the same time.
Parasites' rife frequencies make more sense to me but still, be sure your colon, liver and kidneys are well supported so the waste can move on out.
I am no expert (hence my long delay in getting started for myself). This is just how I understand it, on a very basic level. My cognitive and writing skills are not at all in tip tip shape.
I could be wrong in how I've interpreted or tried to explain.
Consult Rosner's book (a must have) and see what others have to say about this, too. -
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jarjar, glad you are feeling much better! I ran that 676 for H-pylori a long time ago and it hit me with an all over body herx so I stopped. I know I should run it too but maybe this Big Sweep will clean everything up in time. H-pylori seems to be more common then we know.
Keebler, you are right it is good to find a way to remove the debris out of the system after rifing the Bentonite Clay should help it is also good in itself for Heavy Metals removal. I find it is good to use alternative methods along with riifng when we can because as most of us already know we have our plates full with rifing lyme and the co infections and what ever else takes priority.
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I have been rifing for several months and increasing my times and my frequencies very gradually to prevent herxes. Monday I added frequency 612 for only 25 seconds and cannot believe how awful I've felt since then. I can't understand how such a short period of time could cause so much pain, brain fog, etc. Does this make any sense? Would it be better to use freq. 306 instead of 612 next time? I've been using 432, 832, 570, 76, 2016, 10,000 and 880 and have gradually worked up to 2-3 min. for each of them so I don't understand why I'm having so much trouble with this new frequency. Any input or advice would be appreciated - not sure how to continue.
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I think 612 is one of the best freqs you can use for killing Lyme as I'm sure you can feel. Like Dan once told me 612 and 2016 is pretty much anyone might need to kill lyme. Be careful if and when you use 2016 it might even be more powerful.
What you are experiencing is totally normal. I was real sensitive to the freqs too adding seconds made a difference in how bad I felt when the herx set in. Keep going.. push when you can I know it's hard but that was my road to wellness!
Have you tried using actived Charcoal? I really didn't know about it when I was herxing that badly.
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306 Hz is just a lower harmonic of 612 Hz. 306 Hz was originally one of the Doug Coil frequencies that the inventor found killed Lyme under the microscope.
I found that 612 Hz worked better with the GB-4000, but 306 Hz may work better with the Doug Coil.
Either one will kill Spirochete form Lyme.
I am surprised that you had that response to 612 Hz since you are already using 2016 Hz. Once I started treating my wife with 2016 Hz, 612 Hz hardly had any effect at all.
432 Hz never had any effect on my wife, but it has helped others.
Are you running these frequencies one at a time, or several at once?
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- Juli,
Thanks for detail about benonite clay.
Also glad to see so much other great detail here from everyone. -
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Bart rash has been worse for the past month or so and is not going away. Is this normal? I had a few streaks on my legs before, but now also developed a blotchy rash on my stomach.
Can't get the sweats to leave again either..babs?
I refuse to give up!
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quote:Originally posted by RZR: Bart rash has been worse for the past month or so and is not going away. Is this normal? I had a few streaks on my legs before, but now also developed a blotchy rash on my stomach.
Can't get the sweats to leave again either..babs?
I refuse to give up!
I use to have a lot of bart streaks, seems with rife they transmuted to thousands of tiny bumpsor rash on my chest. Juli said she had the same thing happen to her but it eventually went away.
Continue to use various babs freq to stop the sweats would be my advice.
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I wish I had a nickel for every time I asked myself I'm I slipping along the way? I know it can be all so very scary. Just keep going that is what I did and it all worked out in the end.
Yes, I had a sunburn like rash on my neck and it got worse the more I rifed. Most days I glowed. I believe it was inflammation caused by the toxins floating around in my system (die off). It was pretty much a constant thing for me. If your rash itches I found this to be very helpful https://www.swansonvitamins.com/derma-e-itch-relief-lotion-tea-tree-e-chamomile-6-fl-oz-liquid
I don't have Babesia but I know if I did I would do exactly what Dan did when he treated his wife. I would run ALL the CAFL freqs and maybe a few of the DNA.
For 7 out of the 8 pathogens I was dealing with I did only use 1 or maybe two freqs to kill but if I had Babesia I'd run them all we know it worked. Dan's wife has never needed to be retreated for Babesia to my knowledge and it's been a pretty long time. It seems babesia is about the easiest pathogen to kill. You have one of the best machines out there to get the job done. Honestly, I think I remember reading a post of Dan's where he didn't even use the GB 4000 and MOPA and he was able to kill it! Maybe he will comment. Keep going and I say hit it with all you got!
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I stopped taking this but I think I'm going to get back on it. I took it for my stomach issues.
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I did not realize Dan ran all the CAFL freqs for babs on his wife plus a few DNA freqs.
Dan....will you please remind me of all the freqs you ran for Cindy? I went back and searched, but did not find the post. I use higher harmonics of 76 and 1584.
I did contact the DNA freq website months ago and was told there is no DNA freq for babs duncani, which is the type I have.
So, maybe I should start running the babs sweep listed in the book?
Yep....also have a sunburn-type raised rash on my neck, which first showed up a couple of weeks ago. Do the broken capillaries (legs) go away when bart goes?
Sorry for whining....It's just so scary after taking abx for 3-1/2 years and still not rid of anything....babs, bart, or lyme. I keep thinking rife has to work because I am out of options here.
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quote:Originally posted by D Bergy: Just some general information.
You can use any of the single frequencies used with the GB-4000 for any other Rife type frequency device. It does not matter if it is a EMEM, Coil or something else. It is the frequency that does the work.
Many of these Lyme frequencies came originally from Doug, who invented the "Doug Coil", but we use them on most any machine with good results.
The length of time can vary a lot between machines and people. There are far too many variables to know ahead of time how long to run them.
Start with a short run and work your time up once you know your response. One minute is plenty long for a first use of a frequency.
Babesia can be totally eliminated using the CAFL frequencies. We also used Char Boehm's DNA based frequencies, but others have just used the CAFL frequencies. Make sure you treat for a couple of months after symptoms are gone, or you will get it back again.
Lyme and Bart are more difficult to totally eliminate, but you can reduce it down to almost nothing.
Although these machines are not generally cheap, they can be used for multiple infections. Given that most people with Lyme have several infections, this is one of the most cost effective treatment methods for this disease.
Thanks to everyone for posting your results and helping others on this thread. Juli in particular as she puts a lot of time into it.
Dan
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As far as running Babs CAFL freq, 3 of the frequencies are listed in the gb4000 freq guide are for a variety of Protosoa's (sp). I'm a fan of all 3 freq. 432,753,5776. I run them often plus a couple of other Babs.numbers as needed. In my gb4000 guide it's auto channel 656.
One could be hitting a variety of things besides babs. in the 3 numbers above.
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jarjar...
I will try the auto channel 656...checked my guide and it's the same. I use 432 for lyme, so maybe the other two freqs will help.
Thank you!
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Juli, Are you saying that I could eliminate frequency 612 since I'm already using 2016 or am I just looking for an excuse to stop using it? Also, I've tried using charcoal many times in the past and unfortunately I can't tolerate.
DBergy, I'm using the 8 frequencies all together 2 times per week. Do you recommend doing them 1 at a time? I'm planning to Rife again today, but not sure about using freq 612 again since I'm still trying to recover from the 25 seconds on Monday. Would it make sense to continue with the 25 seconds again instead of increasing at this time?
Thanks so much for the help I've received here. Without this support I wouldn't have had the courage to use this machine since there's very little instruction that comes with it. Your support is so important to me and I'm sure to many others as well.
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I use 612, 2016 and 432. You couldn't rip them lyme freqs from my grip! Especially, because you got such a strong hit with it I suggest you keep running it!
Interesting, I don't have Babesia and yet I noticed 432 is listed for Babes too. It is also listed for Lyme. It hit me hard when I tested it out. My thoughts are 432 hz may be more of a Lyme freq.?
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Hi all This is great to see this thread has stayed alive . I have been gone moving and had to get rid of everything I own in the end .
Who has rifed for mold issues?
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RZR Hi I read your on lamisil Don't forget the nsil fungus frequencies I cured mine only after using frequencies And feet directly on foot plates with wet cloths. Amazing results. ! Lamasil so bad for our livers and system even My doctor does not want to prescribe it. Just a reminder . Working on nail fungus and seeing such rapid And great results I could see right in front of me Really convinced me solidly of rife power as I had Tried everything possible including meds and prescribed Topicals and all home remedies I ever read about and I had done lamisil too . Rife outdid them all 1000%
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Also Anyone know anyone interested on a BCX Ultra to purchase , I have a second one that was used only a month bought in 2011.
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I see the CAFL has freqs listed for mold. Do you know which type of mold freqs you are looking for? I personally have not rifed for mold.
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When your asking about the purpose of the set frequency I am assuming who are asking about setting the Carrier Frequency? The Carrier frequency does just that it carries the frequencies to my knowledge but changing it can effect the sidebands (more freqs) that are being created while running a single freq or sweep.
I used the 3.3 CF for 24 months but 3.1 is good too. It's just what I started with. Just recently I began using the 3.1 CF when only running the Big Sweep just to ensure a bit better coverage of hitting anything I may have missed along the way. I decided to do this when I accidently used a 3.1 CF instead of my normal 3.3 and it caused me a pretty good reaction so I'm pretty sure something is still there.
I was told to move the CF around a bit especially if I were getting hits when doing so but this person does not have Lyme or Co infections and don't understand the severity of the reactions when rifing these pathogens. It isn't something that I would do just starting out unless your up for possibly more hits. I could not have handled anymore reactions then I was already dealing with in the beginning.
when I first began rifing I would set the tube in my lap sitting Indian style to make sure I was getting good overall coverage. You should never be more then 6 ft away.
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Most of the single Lyme frequencies discussed here are not affected by the carrier frequency. They can even be used without a carrier frequency and they still work.
The carrier helps with penetration into the body.
The Rife/Peters sweep and Rife's original frequencies are different. They use the carrier mixed with the other frequency, to kill the pathogen.
We are not using any of Rife's original frequencies here. At least not any of the ones he listed for his older machines that worked using the combo of two frequencies.
I would have to check to be sure, but I believe even the Syphilus frequency we do use (2016 Hz) is a later Rife frequency that was not dependent on a particular carrier frequency.
Typically, if a treatment requires a particular carrier frequency, it will be noted in the post. Otherwise, any carrier can be used.
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RZR,
I did not document the Babesia treatment well. Here is one of my oldest posts that has a little info, but that post was after the first time I thought it was gone. It came back two more times until it finally was gone for good.
It is kind of interesting, and humorous to read now. I was so new I still referred to it as "Lymes". It is amazing I got anywhere with the disease. I was truly new to anything that had to do with treating a disease of any kind.
I must have had a helping hand from above. I had so little to go on, was dumb as a rock and had no experience. Not to mention a treatment that originally, I was highly skeptical about.
I feel so fortunate that this all worked out, against all odds.
If I remember correctly, I used the frequencies from the GB-4000 manual, and any additional frequencies that were in the CAFL. I made my own auto program with all of the frequencies and ran them one at a time. I likely never ran them longer than 10 minutes per frequency.
The last time it came back I added in the DNA frequencies for Babesia also. Whether that made the difference or just the fact I ran them for quite some time after the symptoms were gone, I am not sure.
One thing I am sure of is that when the symptoms are gone, the infection is not gone. It is reduced but you need to go in for the kill and keep hammering at it. I would go for two months after all Babs symptoms are gone.
I did not go through the frequencies one by one, as I did with Lyme and Bart. I wish i would have now, but I was truly a beginner. It did not occur to me all at once that I needed to sort some of these out, so others can do it more easily, and with less wasted time.
Good Luck
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