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Juli
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Your welcome Pam!

I'm just passing on what has been passed on to me!

Would like to hear if anyone reacts to any of them freqs on the list. I'm looking for a starting point when I'm ready to test them out.

What machine do you have Pam?

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Map - it's so true - this thread has been so helpful to me.

Dan took the time to answer about 20 questions I sent him in an email too lol : )


And in case anybody needed any reassurance about Rife therapy's ability to heal I spoke with a guy today (he's 46) who is in remission from using Rife (EMEM3d)

He did the whole abx merry go round and didn't get too far (well not entirely true - he picked up Candida ha)

He really helped me pinpoint my Lyme herxes.
I had been struggling for the last month figuring out "is 432 working? is Lyme flaring? Is myco surfacing? yada yada yada." Essentially confusing myself.

What was happening is fairly easy to see now
(and my calendar documents that)

I was just having delayed herx responses to 432.

The more suppressed your immune system is - the longer the Lyme herxes take to present themselves (imo).

Herxing is the immune system's response to the debris/toxins/die-off in the bloodstream and organs.

If it takes your immune Army longer to get there - it takes longer to herx.

: )

And the detective work continues...

[ 05-17-2011, 12:37 AM: Message edited by: canefan17 ]

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For all you Bart'ers

Stephen Buhner writes:

"There is increasing evidence that Bartonella organisms also infect bone marrow in addition to endothelial cells.
While their main reservoir in the body is endothelial cells, infection of bone marrow is important to pathogenesis of the disease.

The symptoms of bone infection are generally mild to non-existent in Bart henselae infection. They are much more severe with Bart quintana (trench fever), which causes extreme bone pain."


Bartonella Quintana - 357 frequency

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I have the mother machine Beam Ray. It was the machine that I was lead to in a very spititual way in '03.

I had never had a God experience and when this happened I wasn't about to question God about the cost of machine. [bow] [bow]

Bryan Skyking posting on this site is the beginning of one great story. I was blessed to have money in my 401K and at this point I wasn't going to live to spend it.

If anyone wants the events that happened to me in a 4 day period, I will post?????

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I would love to hear your story Map!

Cane, I've had horrible bone pain in the past and yes I reacted strongest to 357 Hz.

I notice my herx's are a little different ever since I began using the MOPA I can't pin point it just yet but seems to be on and off at different times before the big one hits.

I thought my herx's starting farther out and being less intensive meant I was getting the bacteria load down. I'm still not so sure that may be the case but that is something to think about.

I keep thinking one day they'll be so far out I won't herx any more. Lol

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I also wanted to mention.. I rifed last night for 5 mins using a pneumonia freq 37,322 Hz and I began getting burning throbbing pain in my bones from my hips to my toes. (like a full blown Super bad herx) At first I thought it was just a coincidence but after my treatment the pain just kept getting worse.

All I could think of is I'm having a Cindy's Herx! I remember Dan mentioning his wife can feel the "Hits" if the freq has hit something during rifing.

I seem to be fine this morning but I did have to take some meds last night for pain. I am clueless as to what happened?

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Ya Juli - I didn't react to 357 until I knocked back Henselae (832/842)
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Interesting Cane!

I had began with using only 832 Hz then added the 357 Hz and Bam" Ouch! Whooo!

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Do you run 357 2/day? Or just randomly?
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Attention GB 4000 users.

I spoke to Jeff today and I asked him a little bit more about running this new 3.1 carrier Frequency and for you Asummer's should you update your machine?

Jeff, agreed to come on the forum and help answer these questions. Although I do have a mild understanding after speaking to him I think it would be better to let him explain the benefits of this modification.

If you do upgrade your GB 4000 you'll need a new Universal Frequency Book. The frequencies in the old book will not work if you upgrade.

The new book is being released this Friday for those who are interested.

Hope to welcome Jeff soon to the forum!

Cane, I run it twice a week. I will run it more in time.

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Juli,
I'm interested in Jeff's explanation.

He will be coming on this website?
(very cool - thanks for making it happen)

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Just passing on that I think we should all be considering CPN as part of the bugs to test/rule out. I'd love to hear if anyone else has had a hit on 479 Hz or any of the other CPN frequencies on the CAFL. It is a very tough one to treat.
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Jeff, told me he normally don't like forums but I told him we are VERY nice on here so he told me he would [Smile]

China, I will try 479. I take it you reacted to this freq? Thanks!

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Gotta question for yall regarding Heart Palps

I've heard that you can stop heart palps in their tracks by taking magnesium (which I believe because epsom salt baths have always stopped em)

But my scary heart palp episodes tend to come in the middle of the night or first thing in the morning.

Do you guys think it'd be wise on Lyme herx days to take a good amount of magnesium before bed?

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It can't hurt.

Bart, and the treatment of it, caused most of the scary heart problems here, but I do think Lyme has that potential also.

Dan

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Ya I agree

Hey Dan - with the Mopa (since it's similar to Coil being non-contact)

..in your opinion how long does it take, once the bacteria are exposed to the frequency, to dismantle them?

Do you think within seconds the bacteria are stopped in their tracks and vibrated to death?
Or minutes?

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I was asked by Juli to explain why we changed the carrier frequency of the GB-4000 from 2.4 MHz to 3.1 MHz. The purpose of this change to the 3.1 MHz carrier frequency is to make the GB4000 work on the same sideband principles as the original Rife & Philip Hoyland Beam Ray Clinical instrument. The MOPA works on the sideband method and is a replica of Hoyland's instrument. Hoyland used two different carrier frequencies, 3.8 and 3.3 MHz. Once we understood how the Beam Ray Clinical instrument worked we could then choose the best carrier frequency. The carrier frequency of 3.1 MHz is a better match using the sideband method because it is a more central carrier frequency requiring the least number of sidebands to hit all the primary Rife frequencies. As an example at 3.3 MHz using 21275 Hertz it takes 4 sidebands to hit the BX cancer virus frequency of 3,214,900 Hertz and it takes 12 sidebands at 20080 Hertz to hit the BY cancer virus frequency of 3,059,040 Hertz. At 3.1 it only takes 5 sidebands at 22,980 Hertz to hit the BX frequency and two sidebands at 20480 to hit the BY frequency.

By putting in the 3.1 MHz carrier frequency the GB-4000 will then be working on the same method as the MOPA except with less power. This change also makes it possible to do the same sweep with the GB-4000 as with the MOPA from 24000 Hertz down to 500 Hertz which will hit all of Rife's frequencies for a sufficient amount of time to be of value. With the change of the carrier frequency is a new frequency list that incorporates all the audio frequencies that will produce the correct sidebands to hit all of the Rife MOR frequencies. No longer are we just relying on square wave harmonics from audio frequencies but we now have the advantage of using the same sideband method used in the original 1930's Beam Ray Clinical instrument.

Another advantage is if the MOPA is used and its carrier frequency is set at 3.1 MHz carrier then all the programmed channels have the correct audio frequencies in them to produce the correct sideband frequencies to hit all of the various original Rife frequencies. This should make the instrument work even better than it has in the past.

I have had many calls by people wanting to know if they should upgrade their GB-4000 to the new carrier frequency. I have told them that it depends if they want to have their instrument changed so that it works on both the sideband method that will produce all Rife original frequencies and also continue to work on the square wave method which has been used for many years. Each person will have to make that decision for themselves. The upgrade is not expensive and we are doing it at cost. It only costs $30 plus shipping to upgrade both the GB-4000 and the Amplifier. The GB-4000 cost is $20 and the Amplifier cost is $10. The reason the Amplifier has to be updated is because it needs to be re-tuned to work with the new carrier frequency. I hope that this answers most of the questions that those on the list may have.

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Thanks Juli and China


GB4000 users,
What does the new 3.1 MHz Radio Frequency entail?
Basically what does the new upgrade allow you to do?


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Juli, yes. I've responded to 479 with both herx and symptom improvement. Its hard to treat though, it replicates fast so takes frequent treatment.
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Thanks Jeff (and Juli)
Great information

So if one does NOT have a MOPA is it recommended to run in audio mode using square waves?

This has a limit of 40,000 Hz, correct?

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Thank you Jeff for coming on the forum and posting this info! I know it will be greatly appreciated not only by me but others as well!

It helps to be able to read this info and go back and re read if needed. (that would be me).

Cane, I don't use audio mode unless I'm running the MOPA. I don't believe there is any need to unless you are running the MOPA.

I tried that once and it caused me shocks. I could be wrong so anyone needing to correct me here please feel free to do so! Juli

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Audio mode is used with the MOPA because the MOPA has its own carrier frequency. If you are not using the MOPA then keep the GB-4000 in RF mode so that you are using a carrier frequency.

Regards
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Originally posted by Juli:
Thank you Jeff for coming on the forum and posting this info! I know it will be greatly appreciated not only by me but others as well!

It helps to be able to read this info and go back and re read if needed. (that would be me).

Cane, I don't use audio mode unless I'm running the MOPA. I don't believe there is any need to unless you are running the MOPA.

I tried that once and it caused me shocks. I could be wrong so anyone needing to correct me here please feel free to do so! Juli


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Spring 2003 after fighting lyme & co since 98-99...I had been on abx since July 99 when flu-like treatment from hell hit. My PCP called it lyme from day 10.

I'm sitting here on lyment on Sat morning and I'm balling my heart out. I'm in so much pain, sick, weak, feeling like I was dying a slow death. Literally death.

I had seen posts from Skyking about this "rife" thing but I was still thinking one does traditional med and doctors can make it all better. NOT

Finally that morning I opened skyking's thread and started reading. There were urls, I read some more. I'm all over the net and reading.

I remember thinking how in the world would I go about finding a rife machine in Louisville to try out?

Monday morning I went to my schedule PT, she did cranal-sacral on me. I'd been going to this body work place about 2 mths. I knew I needed help and knew I was very toxic from abx.

I'm laying on her table and PT is standing at the sink washing her hands and she say" I met this very interestin naturopathic doc this morning. She has this machine she is using on her very ill patients."

My heart is racing and I'm saying to myself Oh my, oh my. I asked PT whats the name of this machine?

When she responded "rife machine, it's a freqency machine and blah, blah."

I almost collapsed, good thing I was on the table. I said aloud Thanks be to my Lord, Jesus Crist! Thank you.

I made appt with naturopath, she did lots of forms and question, she did a darkfield of my blood and said "Oh my!"She took all my history.

When I told her I had been on abx since 99 I thought she would have heartattack. You know naturopaths. [shake]

She gave me supps and vit, detox protocols and started me on sessions with rife. 24 hrs I felt like someone had mopped the floor with me.

I quit abx cold turkey. Became a toxic, detoxing, herxing/healing crisis fool.

She was of the opinion I should be there Mon-Fri. I was smart enough to know, no lets start with 3 times a week. OH MY way to much.

I became to ill to travel across town but once a week to her office. So I bought the Beam Ray through her.

This is the gospel. There is no other way this occured but threw a higher power and my God leading me where he wanted me to go.

Pam

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Let's see if I have this right

GB w/o MOPA
RF Mode
Square
1000 Gate Rate
50% duty Cycle

GB w/ MOPA
Audio
Square
1000 Gate Rate
50% duty cycle
(^ not sure on those 3)

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Wow" Pam you were really sick! I was to! I was pretty much house bound for many months.

I don't know much about your particular machine but I am glad to hear it is working for you!

I take it you are feeling pretty good these days? Thanks for sharing! Great story and encouraging to hear.

Yes, God does work in mysterious ways and He does make a way as He has for me to providing such great resources. I'll mention no names [Smile] but I know they know who they are (wink)

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CaneFan17 Re Heart Palps

For heart pounding and heart palpitations I have good effect using Magnesium Oil ....I keep it at the bedside and spray on arms, legs etc get relief within about 20 minutes or so.

I take oral Mag but guess sometimes it isn't enough.

Mag Oil is very inexpensive, I get mine from Swanson vitamins,

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Awesome- thanks abby
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Juli, all I'll say is I'm no longer dying. My issues is I've been bitten so many times, I don't know what I'm carrying.

I believe bart and tried lev and rifampin the last 2 yrs to jump start because I couldn't get anywhere with rife.

The freqs I've gotten from here are HITS. So I'm encouraged about that. I've got lyme, myco, cmv, ebv, strep, bart and the last week I'm really thinking babs is mixed in the pot.

I'm not cured yet. But I can do life sometimes. I just have learned to rest and take care of me after I do life.

Life is so hard to do sometimes?
[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

But I'm working it and one step at a time is how I go about it these days.

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May 18th 2011 1:30 PM: This was my 91st Treatment. I waited 48 hours to begin this treatment since the last. Still taking time off from MSM today. Today I'm going to follow John Stoller's routine recommended here in the order of Lyme 432, Bartonella (BLO) 832, Mycoplasma Species 690, Babesia Species 570, Anaplasma Species 387, Erlichia 395, Epstein Barr virus 880 and finally Xmrv 448. I'm repeating the Mycoplasma frequency since I improved the day after, not sure it's attributed to Rife, but will repeat it.

  • 1: Purpose: Kill Mycoplasma Species
  • Make: Rife Labs
  • Machine Model: EMEM3D2
  • 1: Frequency: 1: 690
  • 1: Dose: 45mins
  • Distance 1 foot
  • Location Target: Anterior of Body
  • Duration: 48 hours
  • Interval: 1 min
  • Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
  • Stomach Content: Empty
  • Detoxification: None
  • Water: Trace Mineral Research, 20dp in 64oz Fluid,
  • Post Water: 16oz filtered
  • Exercise: 20 push-ups, 20 crunches, 5 pull-ups, and 60 mins on exercise bike
  • Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: None
  • Health Function Scale: 40%

24hr: Insomnia, difficulty with fatigue.

48hr: Felt better. Sleep improved with Ambien/Ativan combination.

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Square wave on the MOPA or regular amplifier is usually the preferred method.

Dan

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5K is supposed to be good for heart palps.
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Mojo,

I have used the 5K for detox. I've wondered what else it is good for? Can't remember if it was you or Map1131 that mentioned it a while back.

I know I have to be careful and not use it to often because it makes me visit the bathroom ALL day long and it's not a good thing! *blush*

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I was just thinking.. when you say 5k are you referring to 5 Hz or 5000 Hz? [confused]

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Hi Juli!

5000 hz (edited to remove a zero!)

I may have mentioned it a while back - I got it from my sister - but I think she got it here a long time ago. My Dr. said it's good for heart palps, too.

[ 05-19-2011, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: mojo ]

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Thanks Mojo!

My MOPA only goes to 40,000. I was thinking it was 5000 Hz.

I get a lot of heart palps to but mine is due to a Mitral Valve.

I suppose I could run it without the MOPA.

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Thank you Jeff,

You exlained the workings of you machines far better than I could.

All I can say is it works well.

Dan

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OMG !! Lymie typo

5k is only 5,000 Sorry!


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Originally posted by Juli:
Thanks Mojo!

My MOPA only goes to 40,000. I was thinking it was 5000 Hz.

I get a lot of heart palps to but mine is due to a Mitral Valve.

I suppose I could run it without the MOPA.


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Hehehehe! No damage done, Life Happens!

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May 20th 2011 8:00 AM: This was my 92nd Treatment. I waited 48 hours to begin this treatment since the last. Started 5gm x 1 yesterday morning. Today I'm going to follow John Stoller's routine recommended here in the order of Lyme 432, Bartonella (BLO) 832, Mycoplasma Species 690, Babesia Species 570, Anaplasma Species 387, Erlichia 395, Epstein Barr virus 880 and finally Xmrv 448. I'm repeating the Mycoplasma frequency once again for the third time since I improved. I can't attribute it to rife exclusively but I did sleep better with some medications and by going to bed earlier.

  • 1: Purpose: Kill Mycoplasma Species
  • Make: Rife Labs
  • Machine Model: EMEM3D2
  • 1: Frequency: 1: 690
  • 1: Dose: 45mins
  • Distance 1 foot
  • Location Target: Anterior of Body
  • Duration: 48 hours
  • Interval: 1 min
  • Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
  • Stomach Content: Empty
  • Detoxification: None
  • Water: Trace Mineral Research, 20dp in 64oz Fluid,
  • Post Water: 16oz filtered
  • Exercise: 20 push-ups, 20 crunches, 5 pull-ups, and 60 mins on exercise bike
  • Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: None
  • Health Function Scale: 45%


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Yeap it was me that what using 5000 for detox and visiting the bathroom too.

BMs are a good thing. I'm glad 5000 is working for some.

Pam

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I'm reading through the new Universal Frequency list for the GB4000...

On Duty Cycle page it's recommended to use a 90% duty cycle for better results.

Then the next page it says to set the Duty Cycle of the Gate to 50%


Are those 2 different duty cycles? (It's a wonder anyone figures this out on their own [bonk] )

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Yes! There is a Gating Duty Cycle and then there is a RF Duty Cycle. (i think that is what it is called)

You will find the RF Duty Cycle by pressing the . button and that should be set to 90.

The second one is found when you press Gate" then press 3 it will show you the rate I use 20 then press Enter and set that one at 50 or to your liking.

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Originally posted by canefan17:
I'm reading through the new Universal Frequency list for the GB4000...

On Duty Cycle page it's recommended to use a 90% duty cycle for better results.

Then the next page it says to set the Duty Cycle of the Gate to 50%


Are those 2 different duty cycles? (It's a wonder anyone figures this out on their own [bonk] )



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I'm Mojo's sister and I got the 5K frequency from the list I got from the maker of my machine. I have an EMEM5.

5 K is also a very good detox frequency and it's on the list for many other things as well.

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Thanks Twingirl for sharing it with us and what it is used for!

It is good to know!

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Thanks for clarification Juli
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Hi,

I'm new on this board and brand new to Rife. However, I am open to learning/tryig anything to kick my Lyme/Bart.

I am reading this link but 38 pages will take me a little bit of time to get through...and perhaps the answer is in there some where. But if it's not a big inconvinient can some one tell me where I can buy one of these machines??

Thank you!!

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http://www.drloyd.com/bb/viewforum.php?f=2

^^^ Rife Buying and Selling Equipment

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Twingirl - I was going to try to explain the hands on the neck thing for heart palps - I think you would do a better job.

Thanks!

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I forgot about the neck massage! Heart palps can be reduced by using your hands to gently massage the sides of your neck. This works well!

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According to the list that came with my machine 5K is also used for Abdominal pain,acne,Aids,Allergies, anemia, Bad complexion, Boils, breast trouble, breathing, bunion pain,cancer, chilblains, cold feet, cricks in neck, dandruff, dullness, ear aches, ears ringing, easily fatigued, eyes blurry crossed, near sighted, infected , facial paralysis, fainting, frostbite, Gall bladder, goiter, halitosis, hay fever, many things for the heart, indigestion, inflamation, irritability, muscles, neck, MS, and more I'm getting tired of typing!

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Dan or Juli,

When running low freq auto channels (like 585 or 586 for parasites)...

I'm in RF mode using Square Wave -
Do I turn Gate ON?


*I know with high freq (1-2 MHz) the gate needs to be ON.

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