D Bergy
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Strep is almost always present in the mouth. I would try those frequencies.
I have used porphyromonas gingivitis DNA based frequencies from Char Boehm's. This is a dental bacterium but it can affect the heart and in my case caused knee pain.
Another possible dental pathogen is mycobacterium tuberculosis subspecies avium or MAP. It is involved with Crohns disease and can cause bleeding gums, bad breath and generally unhealthy mouth.
The mycobacterium channel in the frequency list for the GB-4000 do work for this,pathogen. So do Char Boehm's DNA frequencies.
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Ty both so much. My dental/jaw sx are getting worse so i will start slowly with these and see what happens
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Has there been discussion here about bryans new book, "freedom from lyme' ... the forward is by a LL doc who used rife to treat his own lyme and believes in it
I am really enjoying the book. Easyreading. Pulls a lot of newest research together
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Well im farther into that book and i read something very disturbing
Does rife only kill microbes when they are in blood?
It never occured to me to ask that before i bought my machine. I thought it was common knowledge among LL ppl that ketes and other bugs go many other places besides blood. Ty.
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The frequencies penetrate virtually everywhere. They do clear the body nearer to the surface easier and quicker.
The blood is probably easier to clear given the immune system is so active in the blood stream. All you have to do is slightly damage the bacterium and the immune system can do the rest. Nonetheless, Lyme cannot really hide from a frequency. It is just more protected in some areas than others. The brain is one of the first places where Lyme is reduced using frequencies.
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The frequencies penetrate virtually everywhere. They do clear the body nearer to the surface easier and quicker.
The blood is probably easier to clear given the immune system is so active in the blood stream. All you have to do is slightly damage the bacterium and the immune system can do the rest. Nonetheless, Lyme cannot really hide from a frequency. It is just more protected in some areas than others. The brain is one of the first places where Lyme is reduced using frequencies.
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The frequencies penetrate virtually everywhere. They do clear the body nearer to the surface easier and quicker.
The blood is probably easier to clear given the immune system is so active in the blood stream. All you have to do is slightly damage the bacterium and the immune system can do the rest. Nonetheless, Lyme cannot really hide from a frequency. It is just more protected in some areas than others. The brain is one of the first places where Lyme is reduced using frequencies.
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The frequencies penetrate virtually everywhere. They do clear the body nearer to the surface easier and quicker.
The blood is probably easier to clear given the immune system is so active in the blood stream. All you have to do is slightly damage the bacterium and the immune system can do the rest. Nonetheless, Lyme cannot really hide from a frequency. It is just more protected in some areas than others. The brain is one of the first places where Lyme is reduced using frequencies.
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The frequencies penetrate virtually everywhere. They do clear the body nearer to the surface easier and quicker.
The blood is probably easier to clear given the immune system is so active in the blood stream. All you have to do is slightly damage the bacterium and the immune system can do the rest. Nonetheless, Lyme cannot really hide from a frequency. It is just more protected in some areas than others. The brain is one of the first places where Lyme is reduced using frequencies.
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I am wondering if I should invest in the MOPA. It is very time consuming to sit with hand rods and foot pads in place for hours and hours with GB4000 (I am treating for much more than just Lyme)
When you use MOPA, are frequencies the same? Can you use while sleeping? That means my husband would be exposed to Rife frequencies as well. Any problems with that? Maybe a good thing!
Can you use MOPA and be walking around the house, getting things done like folding laundry, doing dishes, ...? How far away can you be for it to still take effect?
I have 2 cats. Any issues with pets being exposed to the frequencies? Sometimes they want to sit in my lap while I am doing Rife. With MOPA, I know they would get more exposure.
What are your experiences with adding MOPA for those of you who have done this? Herxes different? Results any better? Thanks so much for any feedback you can provide.
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Many people use the MOPA while they sleep.
I am exposed to my wife's Lyme frequencies and it has not caused any problems. She is,also exposed to my Crohns treatments. No issues there either.
The frequencies are the same using either amplifier. The only difference would be if you run Rife's original frequencies. Then you have to match the carrier frequency to the second frequency. So if you use another carrier frequency other than the 3.1 MHz carrier that is used with the contact method uses, you have to recalculate the other frequency. Most of your Lyme frequencies are not original Rife frequencies so this would not be a problem.
Our cat often layed next to the tube. It did not seem to affect it in any way.
I think the plasma tube does a better job in getting through the whole body. It sure is a lot more convenient.
Herxes are about the same.
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"The frequencies are the same using either amplifier. The only difference would be if you run Rife's original frequencies. Then you have to match the carrier frequency to the second frequency. So if you use another carrier frequency other than the 3.1 MHz carrier that is used with the contact method uses, you have to recalculate the other frequency. Most of your Lyme frequencies are not original Rife frequencies so this would not be a problem."
Thank you for your response, Dan, but I do not understand paragraph above. I have just been using the auto channels in the instruction book that came with GB4000 in first section. The only frequency I am using alone is 10,000 for otitis and detox.
I am using many of the auto channels in first section, such as 466 and 467 for Lyme. Would I be able to continue using the auto channels found in this section in same way? Sorry for the questions...
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Yes. Nothing would be any different for any autochannel using either amplifier.
Rife's original frequencies are the only carrier frequency specific frequencies. You are not using any of those so nothing to worry about.
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Thank you Dan! For those of you with successful Rife treatment, how often do you use GB 4000 with or without MOPA?
For past few months, I have been using GB4000 (no MOPA) once or twice a week for lyme and several other conditions such as mold/fungus, babesia, bartonella, sinus and jaw bone infections...
But I try to alternate the channels. Without MOPA, this takes many hours at a time. I do notice subtle changes happening. Sometimes I notice during the rife treatment (or soon after) odd or different sensations in my ears, sinuses, jaw and skull - which is location of my worst symptoms.
So I suspect and hope something is happening in there to change things. Would love to hear from others who are plagued with symptoms like mine and how Rife has affected them. Thank you!
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Are there frequencies for diverticulitis? Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I found some on the CAFL. I can't tell if they are working.
120, 500, 154, 934 each for 10 minutes. 72 seems to help with the inflammation.
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Dumb question- do you sit in front of the rife machine? How close should you be? I have a DT ENEM and have no clue- just in the same room or what?
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10,000 Hz is a good inflammation frequency.
I set the plasma tube right on my lap when I run frequencies. The closer the better unless the manufacturer says different.
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- beths,
a good question. One I had.
I talked with him about this by phone years ago and DT has said that his EMEM machine can be placed on your lap but best to place it right next to you, secure in case you do startle or it's bumped. You don't want to take a chance at this being tumbled to the floor.
Too cumbersome for the lap, really, it would put undue pressure on the knees, IMO, and force one to not move a muscle -
This reminds me that all may not know that that an EMEM MUST keep open to the air so it does not get too hot (and that,it can only run for 30 minutes at a time before it needs a cooling down break).
Bottom line: Important best to keep the EMEM steady & secure, open to air. Closeness is fine, though.
One's body needs to be relatively still when frequencies are being run, too. Adjusting body position is okay here and there, of course, but no bouncing around. -
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Beth's. I have an EMEM machine and have been using it for 4 1/2 years. I always sit right in front of it and usually read something while I'm rifing.
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Beth's. I have an EMEM machine and have been using it for 4 1/2 years. I always sit right in front of it and usually read something while I'm rifing.
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Beth's, I have an EMEM machine and I sit as close to it as I can. I have been using the machine since 2009 rife for 30 minutes once a week and sometimes every two weeks. I have Rifed for 40 minutes however a few times and machine doesn't seem to get hot. It took me a long time to build up to that time.
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Did anyone have success with Charlene Boehm's frequencies that was not having success with typical frequencies such as ones off the CAFL?
Are the frequencies between these two sources much different for typical (or untypical) pathogens??
According to Boehm's website, there are some testimonies of people getting drastically different responses using her frequencies versus publicly listed ones.
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- TNT, look for posts by D Bergy - Member # 9984
Dan has posted quite a bit about his experience with Char Boehm's adjustments. You might PM him after looking back at his posting history for those posts on this aspect. -
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Is DT still making rife machines? What is the wait time?
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I have had real good results with most of Chars frequency sets, but not the ones for Lyme. They disturb the Lyme, but I never could see evidence that it was being eliminated.
I will say that was the only outright failure with her frequencies. Other sets for different pathogens have worked well.
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: Is DT still making rife machines? What is the wait time?
anybody??
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Hey Dan,
Are you getting any responses from numbers that may hit Malassezia?
And, thanks for the response about Char Boehm's numbers, much appreciated.
I wish I could find a freq that I feel confident is hitting my borrelia...just can't find one that really gets a good response except 432. But, it is a protozoa number as well.
I take that back, somewhat. The high 400's seem to be hitting something, and those numbers (ie 480's, 490's) are listed for lyme.
I am having good results with 72! In fact, it has almost instantly helped with spleen & gall-bladder congestion; also relieved kidney pressure. It is a broad number that is really good for inflammation and certain pathogens such as fungus.I would really recommend everyone try it!Posts: 1308 | From Eastern USA | Registered: Oct 2013
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All I use is 2016, 246 and 840.6 for Lyme. I also run 832 for Bart just in case there is a remnant left.
I know someone who can use that gallbladder frequency. Thanks for posting it.
I did not notice any response to the Malasezzia frequencies. Then again, I don't have any reason to believe it is a problem for me. I am not a good test subject for that one.
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I still feel like a novice here. Do you use any of the auto channels? Or do you have better luck with the individual frequencies for figuring out what works?
When you say something 'works' - is it because it causes you to herx? Or is it because it eventually makes you feel better? (or both)
Do you ever find that sometimes Rife makes you feel better without herxing?
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How long, and often do you run the 72 frequency?
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I use individual frequencies for Lyme, the ones I listed. My wife has this unusual ability to feel frequencies that hit something. That gives me a huge advantage.
I test frequencies and find those that hit something and keep those until another frequency hits the same thing and more. Then I replace the old frequency with the new one. After 9 years of this, the ones I listed are all I need. Actually, it is now quite difficult to get any response, because she has no distinct symptoms, and very little Lyme left, if any.
It was much more difficult treating my Crohns because I rarely feel an effective frequency. I have to go by resolution of symptoms. Makes it harder, but not impossible.
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I have been using 72 when I feel "bad." I took an antiparasitical the other night, and the next day felt congested in the spleen area. Started using 72 and almost immediately had the pressure leave. I don't have to use it long, because it helps right away; but I have run it for longer lengths of time without any problems. I pulse it 4x per second (I can sweep, too). I know some machines do things like pulse, dwell, and converge. Mine can't do converge, or even pulse the same as like the BCX.
I started using 72 now and then after the diverticulitis attack the end of November. That is when I came across it. It must be listed with diverticulitis on the CAFL...But, I can't remember for sure.
Dan, 357 seems to be a heavy hitter as well for Bart for me. In fact, if I do any length of time with 357 and 832, I have severe burning neuropathy the next day in my feet and hands.
In October I ran them for 45 mins one night and the next day it was like things were on fire. I learned my lesson.
Also, what freqs were you trying for Malassezia? (If you can tell). I notice Char only lists M. sympodialis on her website. The CAFL has M. furfur (222, 225, 491, 616, 700).
dpei... Some frequencies make me feel worse (sort of like a flare), and others (like 72) make me feel so much better. 800 is another feel good one. I think the 72 really helps with congestion and inflammation and that is why I feel so much better on it.
And then sometimes the same number will make me feel better one time, and worse, the next (like 432).
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I ran the ones you listed from the CAFL.
I haven't seen any sign of Bart in a long time, but it was so difficult to eliminate, I just do not want to chance there is one bit of it left.
How long do you run the 72 frequency?
Dan
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Dan, I run the 72 for at least 5 minutes on a pulse (4 pulses/second). But I run it frequently throughout the day depending on how I am feeling. I don't have a set amount of time, but usually no more than an hour in any day.
It always makes me feel better, but not always the same amount each time.
I don't know if it will always make me feel better, but at this point it does, and that is always welcomed.
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Also wanted to just emphasize that 72 is a new discovery for me and I use it like a painkiller-I use it when I need it, and as much as I feel it is helping.
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- cottonbrain posted this TED Talks video at another thread here:
17 minute video - Added Jan 10, 2014 -
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- From that video, for Dan or others who may know, the speaker talks about
the 11th Harmonic as being key (in cancer, anyway)
I know that Char Boehm's work centers on the harmonics of rife, but not sure which "numbers" . . . If anyone wants to chime in here after seeing the video above with anything that will help us here, please feel free.
DNA Pathogen Frequencies - Char Boehm -
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- Re: Char Boehm's frequency lists
Can I use those with a EMEM5 ?
It runs just one frequency at a time. Do harmonics require being run at the same time? If so, I don't see how that could happen with a single machine. -
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You can run Chars frequencies on any machine. She generally advises to use them at a higher octave than the frequencies she lists. She gives lower frequencies so they can be used on any machine.
Char recommends using higher octaves of her frequencies, instead of random harmonics. She will send you a free octave calculator with your frequencies, if you ask her for it.
Anthony Holland is well aqquainted with Rife's work.
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- Thanks for the information, Dan.
Good to know that Holland is familiar with Rife's work even if not mentioned in the TED Talk. -
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Rife was so thoroughly (and unjustly) discredited in the past, and still today, his name is a kiss of death to any research using frequencies.
Anthony Holland is a member of the Rife Forum.
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- Well, I was thinking how brave he was to make that TED talk. Over a year ago now, but I just saw it.
Glad someone is doing what they can to bring the concept out of the shadows. -
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I have been using the GB40000 for 8 months now and doing many different channels. I rotate channels every other day sometimes doing 3-4 channels at a time. This seems like a lot of frequencies at a time. Is that ok? Is there a limit to how many frequencies I can do at once?
Been herxing bad for the past few days. Should I do just the 10,000 frequency to help detox? If so how long would I do that frequency?
Has anyone gotten symptom free just doing rife?
Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
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15 minutes for 10,000 Hz should be enough.
My wife is symptom free 95% of the time. Her joints will ache once in a while. I treat her a couple of times and she is good for several weeks.
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is there a rife machine thats affordable and can put out multiple frequencies at once?
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Janie, are you saying the GB four thousand can do more than one frequency at once? That might answer katrinab's question.
I personally would like to know, because if the GB can do that I need to find a way to get my hands on one.
We need solid research on which frequencies to use. If there is any solid research out there that is definitive please someone send it my way.
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I have read in Bryan Rosner's latest book that Rife works best while not taking antibiotics. I don't usually herx very much with Rife, but others do. They judge the success of their rifing by their herxing as long as it is followed by a period of feeling better.
I learned about a very inexpensive Rife machine at a Lyme forum recently. It is called spooky2. I think you can get 3 amplifiers to go with it for under $500 and that way you can run multiple frequencies at the same time. The people making it are not in it for profit.
It has some features which are quite amazing, such as ability to work remotely by the user providing a nail clipping with DNA. It is definitely way over my head.
The only problem is you have to be an engineer type to be able to figure out how to set up and operate. It is not easy to follow the instructions like the GB 4000, which runs around $2000, I think.
Below is a website with lots of information on it. If you know someone or have someone in your family that has the brains to follow their instructions, I would definitely give this a try.
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