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Hopeful2010
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Ok. Maybe I am getting into this Lyme thing a little bit too much.

Can anyone tell me what a good microscope to buy is? I am able to draw my own blood so I want to check some things out.

I don't want to spend too much money but I need something that works well enough to use for this type of thing.

I don't even no where to start.

Any suggestions?

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what exactly are you trying to see?

the little lyme buggars themselves?

that would be neat to do.

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i found this link

web page

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springshowers
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thats great.. i have always wanted one too..

maybe we can compare blood : )

Let me know what you find..

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Check out ebay, all kinds of deals.

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A few people on the board have scopes. I purchased one over the summer but have been too busy with grad school to set it up. I'm a novice as well.

Some have suggested to get one with darkfield oil immersion capability. You may have to get a separate condenser for this.

I used this place: http://www.amscope.com/

They also let you pay via Paypal, which is convenient.

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Thanks. Very good information.

I'll remember the dark field oil immersion capabilities. I'll probably also take a class so I know what the heck I'm doing.

I may start with a cheapy on ebay and go from there. I'll post my photos when I get some.

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Hey Hopeful,

I have a scope, darkfield and found my source on e-bay. It was around 435.00. I have not used it yet as I don't have the brain power to read about parasitology and microbiology.....necessary in order to identify anything.

Look forward to your research [Smile] There is someone here 'Micul' or something like that, who was very helpful in my choice.

Might want to do a search for him/her and look at what they have posted.

Feelfit

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Fit.. you got one and do not use it? why did you get it then?? curious?

Havent you at least figured out how to look at your blood just for the fun of it?? To start out?? LOL


What did you get?? Which one?

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spring,

I actually don't have the brain power to figure out how to do a stained slide [Smile] It was a birthday gift actually and I would not have bought it at that time myself as my symptoms had become worse (brain power)......satisfy your curiousity? Hope so!

I got the one that was 435.I would have to get the papers that came with it to tell you the maker.....

Thinking about getting one? PM Micul

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The people at the Rife Forum that use microscopes prefer the Nikon over any other. I am guessing they are not cheap.

Their objective lenses are the best, and the most powerful light microscope in the world, only uses Nikon Lenses.

One site mentioned for buying them was this one.

http://www.canscope.ca/

Dan

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Plenty of information here on how to set up a microscope for viewing borrelia in the blood:

http://www.lyme-diagnosis.org.uk/

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If Borrelia could be viewed in blood, we'd all have a solid Dx.
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quote:
Originally posted by seekhelp:
If Borrelia could be viewed in blood, we'd all have a solid Dx.

Nobody looks for it in your blood.

Almost from the moment the "discovery" of Bb was announced, the Steere camp set to work publishing that it was virtually impossible to see borrelia in the blood, even in Lyme that met their narrow criteria.

In more recent years, seasoned liars like those based at NYMC conceded that Lyme borrelia may sometimes be found in the blood in very early Lyme. However, they contend, it is always gone after the standard few weeks' treatment.

Lyme disease is an arthropod-vectored disease. If it did not inhabit the bloodstream, at least some of the time, how would it ever be able to return to its vector, the blood-sucking tick, and complete its life cycle?

There is a further issue. For a century scientists studying relapsing fever (traditionally diagnosed by examining the blood) thought that the borrelia were "absent" from the blood during the non-febrile periods.

However, those who looked at the matter more deeply, soon found from experiments that the apparently "spirochete-free" blood could transmit the disease. Those who studied it most closely soon discovered that the Borrelia were present - as L-forms.

Those with most influence over public health policy in the countries were most Lymenetters hail from do not want large numbers of people to be diagnosed with Lyme. Above all they do not want people with chronic Lyme to receive a diagnosis. That is why you don't get a diagnosis.

I want to add something to my previous comment. There are detailed instructions on the website www.lyme-diagnosis.org.uk that explain, in fairly simple terms, how to set up a microscope for darkfield viewing of blood. However, I now believe that there could be some danger involved in trying this technique at home, or even in an ordinary lab.

Over and over, information has leaked out to the effect that Lyme disease is being studied in maximum security labs in the US. It has also been studied in Porton Down, Britain's biowarfare centre. All of that information is in the public domain.

Some of us have a weaponised Borrelia in our bodies. The spirochetal L-forms cultivated by the Second World War Japanese bioweaponeers were being bred specially for ***aerosol delivery***. A weaponised borrelia bred for aerosol delivery is likely, by definition, to waft into the air while you are preparing a slide, where it could, in theory, infect the lungs of anyone who breathed it in.

That is something worth taking on board, especially if you do not live alone, or are planning to examine the blood of other patients, apart from yourself.

Further, even if you do live alone, never have any visitors, and only intend to examine your own blood, it is also worth considering that a weaponised borrelia which has accidentally entered the ecosystem, and which you have acquired from the bite of a tick, might affect you very differently if you acquired it via the respiratory route.

An analogy might be this: - anthrax acquired naturally through the skin in agricultureal workers is not a nice disease, however, it is still not the same as the deadly pulmonary form of the disease.

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