canefan17
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All I can say is wow. Last night was my first experience killing parasites.
So I'm on day 3 of the humaworm formula and I'm becoming skeptical. "does this crap really do anything?"
I'm sure most people start to question 3-4 days in.
But then LAST NIGHT! The killing started. Muahahahah
I took a bath at like 7 and when I got out took my humaworm dose. Couple hours go by and I'm just feeling ehhhh, whatever.
11 rolls by and I'm on the phone with my friend when something come over my entire body. Like a chilled feeling.
I became very nauseous and dizzy. I started getting that feeling of "here comes a herx" or "here comes a Lyme flare up."
After getting off the phone I laid in my bed and a few more symptoms started. A crawling sensation in my face, neck, shoulder... and eventually stomach.
At this point I KNEW the parasites were running from the herbs. No doubt in my mind. (Because although it felt like a herx... it was different-hard to explain)
I began having mini-hallucinations(not as bad as it sounds)... but when I closed my eyes I was unwillingly visioning bugs crawling INTO my body.
And I had a weird music hallucination... couldn't get a song out of my head (of course now I can't remember the song)
Lot of OCD type symptoms.
Very VERY weird and sort of scary at the time. (By the way... trying to explain this stuff to people makes you look like a loony person lol)
The crawling sensations picked up. Almost twitch like too.
THEN, finally... almost everything stopped and I could feel (I was lying on my stomach)... something crawling, very slowly, across my stomach area.
If I had to describe it it felt like a slug was crawling through my stomach. Very slow. Unlike the other crawling sensations.
I absolutely KNEW something was going down lol
Then, all of a sudden, after a couple more minutes... an amazing feeling of relief. Unlike anything I've experienced. All those symptoms were gone.
I went into my living room to tell my roommate what had happened (he knew I was on humaworm... he wants to see dead parasites! haha)
While I was talking to him my entire body started sweating. But I felt AMAZING. I was just smiling away. So relieved.
1) To know the herbs/humaworm was working. 2) I feel like I had been battling this specific parasite FOREVER. And I finally got the *******
Incredible. I'm so giddy today and just feel amazing (I sound like an info commercial lol)
I know this is only step 1 in killing parasites... but it feels damn good to know it works.
PS: I haven't passed much yet. The killing happened less than 12 hours ago.
I expect it soon :0
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Good visual story. I consider seeing poarasites after 3-5 days after one program of any antiparasitics to be a gift.
It took me six months of 20 caps a day of very strong herbs and then salt/c to see anything. Of course I had bowls full of dieoff for months. Good luck and I hope something POPS OUT soon.!!
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Nice!!!! I didn't see "visible" results with humaworm (but I sure did with black walnut hull,clove, wormwood protocol) but I did feel better! And my sister in law passed a tapeworm the very next day after starting Humaworm! She was in agony all night the night before though. Told me it was the weirdest but BEST Christmas present she had ever gotten! lol
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Good time to be starting it, it's a full moon.
If you're reacting like this, perhaps you'll feel a lot better when they're gone!! It may take a few rounds and a couple different types of herbs. I got a lot of benefit from Enula after the Humaworm.
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Also...What does the full moon have to do with anything? I keep hearing that.
icky, black walnut, clove, and wormwood is the basis of the humaworm formula)
glm, ya I'm excited at the thought of trying Salt/C... although that's a ways away.
Gonna continue with humaworm + abx's + supplements for awhile.
The results are so great.
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They mate and lay eggs during the full moon. So you want to kill them during the full moon as they are most active. Some experts suggest starting you treatment the week before the full moon, so by the time it is full, the treatment is killing effectively already.
You want to avoid them laying more eggs...the eggs are a larger problem than the initial killing of the worms. Most products do not kill the eggs...so you must kill the worms before eggs hatch...and continue different treatments to kill the new eggs when they hatch...they all have different hatching cycles I hear.
When I used humaworm during the full moon stage...I saw many eggs...on the toilet seat! They look like very small particles of ground black pepper. IF I recall,l those are from pinworms. The white rice looking eggs in the stool are reported to be from tapeworms.
PLease be very clean in the bathroom for yourself and others...clean the toilet seat each time you use it.
Also change your sheets and underwear more frequently, as you will drop parasites (many are not seen) and eggs..and do not want to pass them to loved ones!
also recommended that your partner use humaworm at the same time...to avoid passing parasites.
Humaworm cannot be done each month...you need to wait at least 3 months in between as the herbs can be harmful if used continuously...
But you can use the natural protocols of either Salt C-, ground pumpkin seeds, coQ0, spices ( ground ginger, cinnamon, ground cloves, etc.) and other products in between to keep it under control and keep killing the new ones as they hatch. Good to mix it up.
I have become proficient in adding spices and anti-parasitic ingredients to many of my food choices though out the day. It has become a way of life, and I feel fantastic now!
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light, You got it man. Have you ever tried the coQ10? 3000mg in one day? Is it a one time thing?
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peacemama,
It sounds much worse on paper than it was.
If you've ever had a herx reaction from abx or Lyme symptoms to begin with... then this will be nothing.
It's just like a 30 minute "trip" full of strange sensations.
Keep in mind I was lying in bed, lights off, flat on my stomach.
All the crawling sensations were exacerbated because I was applying pressure to my stomach.
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Oh I should add too... that for dinner I added 2 freeze dried garlic capsules to my meal (open the capsules pour it on top of food) and coconut oil(1 tbsp)
Might have a played a small role too... but I doo those things all the time.
...the humaworm is definitely the potent stuff.
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Canefan...
yes I did the CoQ10, and do not necessarily recommend it. You can get some very mean side effects from this.
YOu must proced with cautin doing this.
I have a biotenser and know how to "test" myself to see how much of a substance I should take. I did not take the full amount recommended to kill the tapeworm, I took different, although still large amounts each day, depending on my frequency testing, so I had no bad effect from my daily doses and felt no side effects, until after the critter was killed!
The killing or taking the capsules is not a problem, but What is released from the killing is the problem!
I killed the rest of my tapeworm doing this a few months after I did the humaworm. I just did it the hulda clarke style way...as I wanted to clean things Up and was impatient!
I actually saw many pieces of tapeworm when I did my original humaworm cleanse, enough to know I still had the Head to deal with....it regenerates and regrows if the head is not killed. Humaworm does not kill the head.
Well, I got so ill the third day on the protocol...of just CoQ10. I felt the thing flaying around inside of me and dying...dont mean to be graphic...but the truth. I knoiw when it died.
Three days after the nighttime crazy internal feeling I got...I saw the very long peice...3 feet in length...within my stool. I had to probe and as it was encased...three feet long!!!and no doubt about what it was. I saved it to show my MD! A few days after that, I saw the head!
I felt great it was out...kind of victorious....until three days later, I came down with the sorest oddest sore throat...and felt just overall sick. NOt like a lyme herx or anything...just different.
I released many toxins from the tapeworm that I did not prepare to clean up with the killing. I should have added binders...and anti virals's like black walnut tincture and golden rod, etc,,,that were recommended on the hulda clarke site...but I forgot! STupid me. Shuld have continued this for several weeks to protect myself.
I got better over the week...with finally taking things. But several months later, I came down with a sever UTI...it was Ecoli bacteria in a very high level. I"m positive it was from this killing of the tape worm. AS when you kill the tapeworm with high amts. of COQ10, it actually explodes in you...and released the viruse and bacateria that way. NOt like the humaworm...which is safe.
So please, learn what you can from others who have done this before you ever attempt it...as it can be done safely. I was foolish as I rushed it. I have contacted those on curezone who helped me through this.
Also those how know...have told me that having a tapeworm is not actually bad in general. Tapeworms are able to absorb the toxins, bacteria, and viruses, so they do not harm us!!!
This is controversial...but I tend to understand why we sometimes all have parasites...some are not bad...but the overload is the problem. When our bodies are out of balance, we are overrun with them...and all the things that cna bring on chronic illness. WE need to clean up the terrain and balance our bodies so no one toxin, parasite, virus, bacteria or fungus is taking over!
Our immune system cannot handle the overload!
I recommend to Stick with the basics first!
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light,
very informative. I do want to rid myself of tapeworms though.
I don't like the idea of having them lol
When you talk about binders...
Do you mean like welchol? That's what I use.
Doesn't humaworm have herbs like black walnut tincture and golden rod. Aka cleanup herbs?
Does humaworm address tapeworm?
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Humaworm got rid of my tapeworm. Didn't get rid of my roundworms for some reason, but the Enula did, and yes, that's it. I bought it from www.nutramedix.com or from my LLMD who carried it at a discounted rate.
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I'm with peacemama ---This all freaks me out!
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Thanks six.
Did you use any binders during humaworm?
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Why do you have worms? Was this also transmitted to you through the tick bite? What are some of the symptoms of worm infestation? I know what they are in animals but have never noticed it in connection with myself. Tapeworms in cats results in poor quality coat which sheds a lot and the "rice like" segments sticking to their fur. Round worms give a bloated stomach. Some worms cause an itchy rectum. Are you sure you have worms? If so, why not just take some ivermectim and get rid of all of them at one time.
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Lyme Disease brings down our immune system so makes us more prone to other infections including worms.
I typically used zeolite or bentonite clay. I'm allergic to chlorella or I would have used that. Don't use too much because you need to keep the bowels moving.
When the worms die and you start digesting them (really, really gross, sorry), you also absorb the toxins they store. That is why the binders help.
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I thought chlorella was a heavy metal binder?
I've also heard not to use it if you have mercury fillings.
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nefferdun,
Almost everybody has parasites.
There doesn't have to be obvious symptoms or stool test to show that.
Parasites are everywhere.
We live in industrialized America. It's in our food, our water, etc etc.
I chose humaworm because it treats a wide range of parasites and i've read a lot of success stories from it.
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Humaworm kills pieces or the ends of the tape worm. My pieces were eliminated in inch long segments or so over the course of the one month humaworm treatment.
Tapeworms can be many feet long...mine was at least 8 feet I believe.
Humaworm kept killing segments and I dropped many tapeworm eggs as well. You have to probe to notice wht is being killed. I am curious, and wanted to know what I had! Also wanted to know when everything was gone! I studied and asked questins fromthose who know and have experience. I also looked at many pictures of what to look for.
But the Head of the tapeworm is not killed with humaworm. This was confirmed for me with energitic testing. I still had the head. It's called the scolex...you can look up pictures of it. It was easy to recognize when it left.
So knowing I had that horrible critter still growing silently inside...I decided to be proactive and go into battle!
Again, I am not recommending this to anyone...
If you are doing this...please do you research...go to hulda clarke website, and curezone to discuss procedures and suggestions from those who know what they are doing. I can only tell yu what I did, and my mistakes and experience.
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quote:Originally posted by canefan17: I thought chlorella was a heavy metal binder?
I've also heard not to use it if you have mercury fillings.
Yes, it is a heavy metal binder, one of the best for this purpose.
Sure you can use it with mercury fillings. I think you're confusing chlorella with chelation.
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Lightparfait, how did you get rid of the head?
I saw one head with oregano oil. It was disconcerting having what looked like a face looking up at me. shudder, shudder .... sorry for the visual, but you do see this stuff!! (If you have it)
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ping,
So you think it's worth supplementing while I'm on humaworm?
Does it work like welchol?
Take after a meal and it will literally bind to toxins and help excrete them?
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In general I don't think you need special binders during the humaworm cleanse. although they sell the herbs for the colon cleanse that you can do at the same time.
I occasinally used apple pectin powder, mixed in applesauce. I energetically test myself, so I know when I need something and when I dont. for the average individual, yu could just daily take applepectin powder to just be safe. IT is harmless.
IF you havent done one in awhile, I recommend doing them together. YOu will also eliminate intestinial plaque if you do this. Do not mistake the plaque for a tapeworm. They are very different, and the plaque is long , like a tape worm when released. Many people think the plaque is a worm. It is not.
Just eat enough fiber in your normal diet. Need to make sure you are hydrated as worms are also released in urine and come out vaginally for some. Usually pinworms and threadworms are released this way. they are translucent and clearish whitish, and float in the water toward the bottom and curl up in little balls. Aggitate the water with a chopstick and they will re-float toward the surface.
I also had release in my eyes. Floaters are now gone that I did not realize were parasitic in nature.
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quote:Originally posted by canefan17: ping,
So you think it's worth supplementing while I'm on humaworm?
Does it work like welchol?
Take after a meal and it will literally bind to toxins and help excrete them?
canefan - I know that chlorella must be taken 30, preferably 45 minutes before a meal, but then, so does the Humaworm. I could speak to the issue of binding metals, but am not qualified (from experience) when it comes to this one.
The person that most likely will have the best answer is Gael. You have a post from Gael early on in this thread (screen name 'glm1111'). That's who I'd ask if it were me. Sorry I couldn't provide more info on this.
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light,
funny you mention the urine. My urine was yellow/greenish yesterday before all this killing took place.
That was probably my first sign.
six, did you do the oregano oil with enula? After humaworm?
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I saw the plaque with the Dr. Natura cleanse. Worm-like yes, but still very different.
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For me, I later found a relatinship with my ovarian cysts and parasites. I was dropping loads vaginally.
My cysts are now gone as well as I have been having regular internal sonograms for years to monitor them! This was after the humaworm and continued parasite control.
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I agree six...when you see it, and it matches the pictures, you know! And when you can actually feel better digestively, you know!
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Yes, I saw what the website shows in pictures. Helped me loads getting rid of it.
How did you get rid of the tapeworm heads? I'm pretty sure they're gone ..... but still good to know.
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what do yall think about this...
Humaworm (30 days-currently on)
In between Humaworm(90 days) + Dr Natura Colon Cleanse (30 days)
Plus I'll be taking some abx's.
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Six, I used COQ10 to get rid of the head.
Hulda Clarke's research stated that the COQ10 was the only substance she has found to get rid of the tapeworm casts in the brain and in the bone. She also combines this with a Zapper, and some use rife frequencies to remove the head with the COQ10. I guess it depends where it is located.
They attach themselves quite well with that big ugly mouth!
I wasn't sure where mine was hanging out...so CoQ10 it was for me, the pathogen warrier!
Again, I do not recommend this to those reading this...not for novices.
Six, if you decide to try this at some time, I would be glad to talk with you live...for more specifics...so you won't get ill!
Energetic testing confirmed I still have one...and supposedly when one head is killed, the tapeworm eggs hatch at the time of the killing. So there will always be a tapeworm to contend with unless all eggs are killed correctly, per Hulda Clarke.
Again folks, I am no expert on this...just telling what I have experienced or read from the considered experts. I do not think it is wise for me to promote specific protocols, when some can be detrimental to certain individuals depending on what drugs you may be on.
I will tell you all that at the time of my cleanses, I was on no pharma drugs, and was only doing natural type detox regimes. Humaworm was very easy for me. So for those on meds...you must consider your situation a little different than others when choosing what you are doing.
Humaworm should be safe...but there also could be reactions from those herbs with other drugs. I would check with your llmd if you are actively treating lyme and considering parasite removal.
To everything there is a season...especially as the layers of the onion are being worked on. There is no rush! Move systematically and patiently, and little by little healing occurs.
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Is there any reason for me to not start Dr Nature's Colonix while I'm taking humaworm?
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I wouldnt take the abx with the humaworm...
I would take a month abx break...while taking humaworm, then go back on for a month if very necessary.
Then I would incorporate taking the ground spices added to food for the next month...either with the abx or without abx....just to keep the parasites at bay...and to heal your intestines and stomach from the killing herbs in humaworm.
If you are not on abx...then you can be a litte more aggressive with the killing and cleansing.
The liver, kidney and lung cleanses can be hard on your body andyou need time to heal and clear. Yu are still cleansing even after you are done the protocols....yuo body needs time to rebalance from all that elimination.
I find less, is more. This is wisdom from experience, and from previously rushing treatments.
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Cane...I think the best scenerio would be to do the Dr. Natura before doing the humaworm...
butr as you have already started humaworm, you many just want to add psylium husk to your regime. Just get it at thehealth food store...take it with lots of water in the am and pm. To clean you out!
I have never taken the D.Natura product to know what else besides fiber is in it.
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Thanks light.
ya I actually stopped all abx except flagyl (i'm gonna finish it's cycle 1 more week)
Your advice is great.
Less is more.
I sometimes get ahead of myself as well. I'm always planning things out. And reality is you need years to beat this disease
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Dr. Natura has a lot of herbs in it. Since Humaworm is multiple herbs, I'd use them separately. Too many herbs to check for interactions.
Thanks LP, I'll look into CoQ10.
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FYI,
I tried humaworms "cream" product. And I love it. I do recommend anyone ordering, to pick some up.
Besides helping with those nightly itches during the cleanse...(use a Q-tip_to apply if needed)
I also used a Q-tip to put it around my nostrels when my nose was itchng inside, as I did eliminate some worms there as well. Those are not fun to see!
It also helped clear skin candida/yeast from my feet and husbands when we detox. It is amazing for the skin, hands and nails and killing fungus/yeast.
After I removed my mercury metal tooth amalgams, crusty substances formed behind my ears and on my scalp and my inner ears itched. The cream eliminated it. It was most likely fungus/candida attached to the skin.
I have a feeling you could make it yourself...seems to contain essential oils and noxema! either way...it was inexpensive and helpful.
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light,
Ya- I bought some coconut oil for the same use
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Good idea Cane
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Very good info from light. My tapeworm came out in one piece. I don't know how long it was, but definietely a number of feet.
I don't remember seeing the head tho. Hopefully I just missed it. I just can't believe how many parasites I got rid of and am still having dieoff after 4 yrs.
I decided to do Clarkia tincture (wormwood artemesia) blackwalnut hull and cloves)this time and it seems to be really strong. Someone on here recommended it.
I will give updates later as I am only on day 3. Six is right about starting it before a full moon, so I am hopefull the rest of these #$%$^$ will die and leave!!! Keep us posted cane,
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Good grief, I thought my only concern was bacteria spirraling through my brain and now I have worms too. This is so gross. I am going out to my barn and taking some horse wormer!
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glm,
how close would you say you are to being finished with everything? (treatment)
Or will you forever treat parasites?
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I will never stop taking salt/c or antiparasitics. The only symptoms I have left are the parasites in my G.I. track because I can feel them moving around.
You have to remember that some of the parasites lay up to 200,000 eggs a day. If even one egg is left the cycle starts all over again.
I have read that everyone in the general population should treat for parasites twice a year. I am getting closer every day to putting this into remission, but it is like peeling an onion.
I suspect I have had this disease for over 50 yrs and I am now suspicious that it might have been congenital as my mother passed away in 1989 from ALS.
Looking back she had soooo many Lyme symptoms, but we didn't know about Lyme disease then.
Gael
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canefan17
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Sorry to hear about your mom.
So do you just do a maintenance dose of salt/C?
I'm sure you slowly worked your way up to ___ grams per day and then worked your way back down to a maintenance program?
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Right, but I made my own very strong walnut hull from the green hulls of my grandmother's black walnut tree.. extra extra strength. And ground and encapsulated my own cloves. The wormwood I had to buy in tincture from the store because mine haven't been planted yet.
What I made was stronger for sure than what is in Humaworm, which is why I believe I saw things with this protocol and didn't with the Humaworm. Only FELT better on the Humaworm.
It's a great product though. I'm also going to try Enula and see if anything else shows up.
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( am still at 20 gams a day. I also do a flush every morning with the salt/c to release the dieoff from the day before.
The owner of the lymephotos site is still at a high dose even tho she is in total remission and back at work full time. Her feeling is there are too many eggs and Lyme cysts lurking around and she's not taking any chances.
BTW, I worked my way up to the 20 gms per day in diveded doses starting with 1/4tsp of salt and 1/4tsp of C a day. I increased 1/4tsp per day according to how I was herxing.
I also drink plenty of water. The salt is very powerful because it puts the parasites into osmotic shock.
I suspect it even breaks up the Lyme cysts because I don't have nearly as many tiny little bumps under my skin as I used to.
Gael
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glm,
Do you get regular lab work done?
CBC?
and I'm curious if so... what do you look for in the lab work?
Check the BUN and creatinine serum?
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