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gemofnj
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i would like to share my experience from using chelated magnesium oxide, 250 mg each, approx. 2-3 times a day since the beginning of lyme and after my course of lyme treatment.

before i had lyme, i had a bone density test when i turned 50. i seldom took even vitamins, let alone a supplement such as magnesium.

recently, i was worried and concerned about the beginning of osteoporosis and decided to get another bone density scan.

the time span was FIVE YEARS later after my first test, and one year after lyme treatment).

the comparison of the recent test to my first one reported **BONE DENSITY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED**.

after doing some research about the benefits of magnesium, i am seriously convinced this supplement has helped me.

i was totally shocked by this since i was sure that lyme had wreaked havoc on my bones.

has anyone else experienced anything like this?

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MariaA
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are you also exercising more since you've been better (CONGRATULATIONS, by the way!!!!!)? That definitely builds bones also.

It's always inspiring to hear stories like this!

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i had a bone density test late last year, when i was running all over the place to find out why i was so sick, this one dr. did a bone density test,

since she had the machine in her office, spearingly i took magnesium, but before i was

sick again i was able to go to the gym.. after the test, the dr was shock at my age, that my bone density test was unbelievable strong...im over 50 also.

couple months later i found out about the one band of lyme that i have... the plot thickens...

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karenl
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street,

the 41 only could be the protozoan. It does elevate 41. Test biofilm if you want to know.

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TF
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gem, thanks for posting this. I have osteopenia. So, I am interested in the brand of mag you took and if you got it at a health food store, etc.

I know magnesium helps the body to absorb calcium, as does vitamin D.

Who recommended this type of mag to you? Was it the lyme doc?

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TF and MariaA:

i have always worked out pre-lyme and the test was ok.

although the result could be a combination of supplements and exercise, post lyme i have also worked out but not quite the same intensity. this could be because i am also 5 years older. (55)

i have tried several different kinds of mag from Magtab SR, to mag citrate, oxide, etc.

my llmd did not recommend the brand that i am currently using which is Country Life Chelated Magnesium (oxide), 250 mg each. i have also used Solgar chelated and tolerate them both well. (got them at health food and/or vitamin shoppe)

i might add that i did not take any calcium or vitamin d until after my 2nd test.

upon menopause which occurred very recently, my gyno specialist recommended to be PRO active against osteo, and take 1200 mg of calcium with vitamin d.

i have tried to do this, but extra calcium really binds my digestive system up.

here is an interesting article:
http://tiny.cc/k04Ls

ps: i am still in remission after 1 year *fingers crossed*

thank you all for the wonderful support!

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Wow, that is great. I take magnesium citrate so maybe I will get strong bones too. I had a density test done maybe five years ago and they said except for my sacroiiliac I had the bone density of a 35 year old woman. That was before lyme.

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Great news gem!! Thanks for posting this.

One thing I don't quite get is that you are taking the least absorbable mg... oxide....

But... it's chelated... so it must be much better than regular oxide...??

Can you explain that to little ole me!??

I have good bone density, thank goodness..since I'm in my late 50's.

I am currently taking mg oxide, mg glycinate, and mg citrate.. covering all bases!! [lol]

I also take Vit D and calcium... BTW, if you take plenty of the oxide you won't be bound up. ( at least that is the case with reg. oxide )

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hi lymetoo,

im not that well versed however, here is a good article that can best explain the differences in magnesium. Most folks are thoroughly confused. (including me)

http://www.enzymestuff.com/magnesium.htm

Forms of Magnesium

1) soluble forms/organic (aspartate, malate, glycinate, citrate and succinate etc.) - better absorbed

2) insoluble forms/inorganic salts (chloride, carbonate, oxide) less absorbed - unless chelated

the chelated form of magnesium along with amino acids is absorbable so even tho it is oxide. (insoluble)

i went with the chelated oxide as the soluble forms (glycinate, and others) were less helpful in being regular.

i hope this is somewhat helpful. [Smile]

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The Country Life magnesium is a mix of amino acid (chelated) plus magnesium oxide.

What this means is they call it chelated magnesium, as that sells better, yet only include a portion of actual chelated mag in the product.

I am not aware of any difference between types of mag oxide, so the mag oxide in the product is the same as any other brand.

They don't mention which amino acid is used or amounts in the product. When companies don't list amounts, it typically means it's a small amount... yet it it listed first in the ingredient list, so who knows...

If it works for you, that's fine. And the oxide will help keep you regular. But for others looking for a more absorbable type of magnesium, they probably are better off getting something besides an oxide.

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Check out Intramax by drucker (i don't sell this)...but is an all in one mineral/vitamin/amino acids/probiotic/EFA, etc...

Those who do not absorb nutrients may benefit from this high quality type liquid supplement. Has high levels of all that is needed.

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There is an excellent book called "Perfect Bones" about bone health.
You also need to eat + digest well:
Protein for the bone "frame"
Fats to help carry minerals to the bones
Minerals - many, not just calcium + magnesium
Vitamins like D
Hormones as "bone bank" managers
Exercise, typically weight bearing
Bone bank guards - avoiding some habits that can decrease bone density

I assume www.amazon.com should have the book.

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