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rachellemarie
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Trying to find out if this symptom is related to Lyme or something entirely different. Would appreciate input if others experience this. On certain days, not all the time, it feels like the muscles to my eyes are fatigued and hurt. Similar to when you My vision is perfect but it just feels like the muscles aren't working quite right. It ends up making me feel sick to my stomach and I have to keep my eyes shut to relax them.

Anyone else experience this or know what to do to relieve this?

I've tried cold packs, hot packs etc...nothing seems to work.

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Yes, this was one of my Lyme eye symptoms. For me, this remedy worked, altho we have learned that we're all different in our responses to any treatment, including this one.

I drink mangosteen juice, an anti-inflammatory antioxidant juice, and it stops all Lyme eye symptoms for me. There are lots of versions - the one I drink is the Ultra mangosteen brand with 70 minerals added.

If you try it, go slowly and drink a lot of water too.

We have recent threads on the subject, including a long one with around 60 responses, if you do a search for "mangosteen".

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rachellemarie
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Thank you, I'll look into that. I've heard about it for years but never tried it.

My first post was supposed to say "Similar to when you have the flu and your eye muscles hurt"... (that part got cut off).

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Look here, first:

http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php

VESTIBULAR SYMPTOMS

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It may not be so much your eyes as your ears. You say you experience nausea which I bet is a sort of sea-sickness feeling.

Your eye muscles may be going through very fast spasms. It is called NYSTAGMUS.

When vision does that to the stomach, the inner ear is often under some sort of stress. Lyme can and does affect every organ, function and system of our bodies so I can't say that your eyes are not affected but my guess is it's not just your vision.

GINGER CAPSULES (not just the tea). MAGNESIUM. Those are your top two supplements that may offer help. Much more below.

Be sure to tell your LLMD and also look over the side-effects for every medicine you are taking. Your LLMD may refer you to a LL ear specialist - or an eye specialist. But, as these sort of symptoms are so common with lyme, be sure to first consult your LLMD about it. Again, magnesium is your best friend if this is nystagmus.

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All about EARS:
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For those who are sensitive or pained by even normal or soft sounds (sounds not even at noise level):

www.hyperacusis.net

HYPERACUSIS NETWORK

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Ringing, hissing, roaring, pulsating sounds or sensations in the ears:

www.ata.org

AMERICAN TINNITUS ASSOCIATION

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www.vestibular.org

VESTIBULAR DISORDERS ASSOCIATION

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http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php

VESTIBULAR SYMPTOMS

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Specific for LYME patients - lots of details about ears and what can help:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS

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Back to basics about lyme treatment:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

Sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease

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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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Heavy Metals can also be a part of this. For more:

http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/LymeProtocolOct09.pdf

A Treatment Guide: Lyme and other Chronic Infections

by Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD

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Keebler
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http://tinyurl.com/dc9u8c (Through Amazon)

Book

The Eye Care Revolution: Prevent and Reverse Common Vision Problems - by Robert Abel, Jr. M.D.

You can read customer reviews and look inside the book.

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http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesCategory.aspx?k=Vision_Sight

32 articles on Vision and Sight

One of those:

http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art1068&zTYPE=2

Vision: Natural Ways to Maintain Eye Health - By Jim English


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Liver support during treatment is also vital as porphyria can cause problems with the eyes. Many lyme patients have a sort of secondary porphyria that causes excess porphyrins which can damage cells.

It's very complex but the basic thing to remember is to ALWAYS support the liver and never push it too much. More details here:

http://porphyriafacts.tripod.com/ocular.html

PORPHYRIA FACTS - OCULAR MANIFESTATIONS

Forty questions and answers

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www.porphyriafoundation.com

THE AMERICAN PORPHYRIA FOUNDATION

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http://www.cpf-inc.ca/

CANADIAN ASSOCIATION FOR PORPHYRIA

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http://www.cpnhelp.org/secondaryporphyria

SECONDARY PORPHYRIA: what you should know before starting a CAP (combined antibiotic protocol)

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/87840?

Topic: Porphyria (discussion thread - as relating to lyme)

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rachellemarie
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Great info, thanks a lot for sharing!
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Just so you don't feel alone, I get this too. Feels like I've been watching a SUPER high speed tennis match or migraine behind eye feeling--hurts to move eye from side to side or up and down.

It doesn't happen that often so I just grit my teeth. I do have many vestibular problems so Keebler's ideas, as usual [Smile] , sound right.

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Florence1
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I also have had problems with my vision.....feel like my eyes hurt..but also at the moment that they are not keeping up with where i want them to be if that makes sense.......not doing what i want....also feels like everything is jumping if I fix on something........not sure whats causing it.......i do wonder if its vestibular...as had a lot of vertigo with this...thank goodness thats better now but the eye thing is not....

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If it's just muscle fatigue, putting a drop of Peppermint Oil above each eyebrow should help refresh the muscles. It will also wake up your brain.

I used to get this, and to me it felt like both eyes would not focus on the same place at the same time.

If you try this, but sure you buy Essential Oil, that is ok for topical use.

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rachellemarie
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Yes, I think we're talking about the same thing. There is the pain behind the eye, and then also the focus problem...like when you've been drinking a little and it's hard to get your eyes to do what you want them to do. Thanks for sharing, I wasn't sure if this was a Lyme symptom or possibly something else.
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