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nefferdun
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I thought I would let you guys know that this herb works very well for insomnia, almost as well as something like ambien, without the side effects. It is very calming too so it helps with anxiety. I do not have pain right now but it is good for that too - on one site I read it is 40% as effective as morphine. I have used herbs most of my life for insomnia but this is the strongest and I never get resistant to it. I have used it over a year.

In the past, I have used L tryptophan, melatonin, valerian and ambien. They just lost their effectiveness except for ambien which I became dependent upon, and which also made me feel extremely irritable. I do not take corydalis every night. It does not create a dependency, at lease not in me.

I use straight corydalis but you can also buy it with calif poppy and other herbs. Zhang uses corydalis in his Herbsom which is much more expensive than just buying the herb alone from another source.

For me it works best when I first go to bed and am having trouble falling asleep. I can also wake up in the middle of the night - usually staying awake for three hours.

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Haley
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Thanks for the tip.

I have huge problems sleeping and I am trying to transition to something natural. I think it will take a while. I have been taking sleep meds for years.

I've also tried all of the natural stuff. I will give this one a try. I have not tried it.

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what brand of corydalis to you use? the herbs have never worked for me .. just relax but actually would interfere with sleep.

How bad was your sleep?

Herbsom did not work for me.

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Corydalis is a wonderful nourishment for the body to help reduce pain and encourage sleep. However, sleep is very complex. Sleep Hygiene is so important, too.

More here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP - Links to articles & supplements with the focus on nourishing our body and working with it rather than against it.
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Keebler
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From my file notes but first a reminder that a gluten-free diet can help tremendously to lessen pain and, therefore, also help with sleep. Magnesium, Fish Oil (Krill Oil; OmegaBrite) are basics to be sure to have on board.

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CORYDALIS
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http://www.itmonline.org/arts/pain.htm

SIMPLE TRADITIONAL FORMULAS FOR PAIN

Shixiao San, Jin Lingzi San, Liang Fu Wan, and Baishao Gancao Tang

by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine, Portland, Oregon

excerpt:

. . . Corydalis is added "to increase the pain-relieving effects of this prescription."

To compare Shixiao San and Jin Lingzi San, it is helpful to examine two of the main ingredients. Yang Yifan (9) compares corydalis to trogopterus (wulingzhi):

Corydalis and trogopterus enter the liver and spleen meridians. Both are able to promote blood circulation and remove congealed blood. They are very effective for relieving pain.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Corydalis - 285 abstracts

Corydalis, pain - 8 abstracts

Corydalis, liver - 4 abstracts

Corydalis, inflammation - 3 abstracts (one lead to Curcumin)

Hypomagnesemia, pain - 32 abstracts

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Links to mentions of Cordyalis are in seven different chapters of "The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook" by Tillotson:

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/display/Search?searchQuery=Corydalis&moduleId=1405778

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This is an excellent formula, intended for use before going to bed (follow instructions and caution with driving until you get used to it. Do not mix with sedative or alcohol).

This is also part of a lyme protocol.

http://www.hepapro.com/hepapro_product.htm

See #28 - HerbSom

Ingredients; Corydalis root, jujube seeds and Schisandra fruit.

Jujube is also called zizyphus. Schisandra is also spelled schizandra. Both can be searched at PubMed and at The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook ( http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com )

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Also to consider to relieve pain and inflammation:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Curcumin, Kindling - one abstract:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19567167

Curcumin inhibits amygdaloid kindled seizures in rats.

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Detailed thread:

http://tinyurl.com/y8bd9k2

Topic: CURCUMIN Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes (Endocrine & Neuro)

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In my experience, Corydalis makes me sleepy. Curcumin does not.
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sparkle7
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Wow. Thanks! It's always good to learn about a new herb to explore.

I'm glad it's working for you.

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