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lauirel
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This is an opinion, and I wanted yours as well.

quote:
http://patft.uspto.gov/
Quote from a friend.

"In the same database is the proof that Yale own's "Lyme Disease" or Ixodid Relapsing Fever (USPat 5,618,533), because they own the only scientifically valid DNA for it that would be
an antibody test for "LATE LYME DISEASE, INCLUDING NEUROLOGIC LYME, WHICH IS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DEARBORN OR CDC SERONEGATIVE" - You know, the New Great Imitator.


You know, they *OWN* all of the outcomes of it, and they won't let anyone have them. No one
can have either the diseases or the test. This is a mass-murder crime.

The rest of us can drop dead (and eat ship and bark at the moon, on the way).

Ohyeah, it's a big ta-do, because if the common folk knew the truth about Lyme disease, they'd tar and feather that Barbara Johnson over there
at the CDC for *OWNING* Bb DNA and also running that Dearborn FARCE of a conference:

www.actionlyme.org/CDCS_PARTICIPATION_IN_LYME_CRIMES.htm

www.actionlyme.org/Dearborn_Who_Approved.htm

http://www.actionlyme.org/070430.htm

Kathleen M. Dickson
http://www.actionlyme.org/

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John S
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Can you expound on that and explain it more clearly.
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lauirel
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We were discussing Lyme Disease politics, and one of the points brought up to me was what you read above.

This information, opinion, or whatever, could very well have bearing on why our tests are so incompetent, as well as why we know see the stage being set for PLS.

Is this opinion shared with me and its following supportive links, in any form true?

It is patented and on display for the world to see. I do know, that going through the patents, one can get the pulse of what is really going on around them.

LaurieL

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lauirel
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I did want to add, some of the information is complete conspiracy based, but there are tidbits in which are on display. Its those tidbits I am interested in.

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Not all conspiracy theories are "theories", know what I mean?

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Yes, I do. But some of it is way out there, and even if it were true, unprovable at this time. I am interested in what I have been able to atleast verify. In no way does this indicate or mean that I am not open to new ideologies whether conspiracy or not. Nor should this indicate that I only form opinions or my own ideologies based solely on fact either.

But the patents, and the verifiable occurences by links. They scream at me.

Has this information been published elsewhere? If you look at some of the patents, some of them are damn scary. If they are patented, then does this leaves us powerless.

What does anybody think? Anything one would like to add to this. More links, yadi ya. Any discussion?

LaurieL

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Can you explain why, in terms my shattered brain can understand, how this has a bearing on the substandard lyme tests?
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This Dickson lady might be smart, but the way she writes it looks like a ranting lunatic wrote it.

It just doesn't seem to flow and be easily understood.

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If you google her name, you come up with a lot of "interesting" stuff written about her and by the Dickson lady:

http://docendi.niuz.biz/kathleen-t24814.html?s=8a81ee800b4c66f98e3d16aa851817fe&

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Marnie
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Flagellin...yea that's a problem eliminating. Too similar. Read the first sentence (Just read the intro. (a protein in nerve cells):

http://www.jstor.org/pss/30112738

Google these words:

borrelia burgdorferi flagellin proteins

IgM:
http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/31/3/629

More on IgM:

http://www.ibl-international.com/products/infectious-diseases/borrelia-lyme-14kd-ospc-igm.html


http://mic.sgmjournals.org/cgi/reprint/141/1/85.pdf

Too many of Bb's MANY MANY proteins (antigens) are too much like our own...we end up attacking ourself.

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Supposedly this test is very acurrate and does have a patent but has never been used. It is owned by Yale!

Just a guess..... they won't allow it to be released for use because that would uncover the truth about how many ppl actually have LD. Not ready for that discovery to be made yet.

The IDSA has power. I think they are the largest and most respected society in the medical industry. I know hard to believe!

I think many of the powers that be, bum-Steere, The Worm, and a few others are making money off of our suffering. I don't know in what ways or how many ways.

One theory is the developing of a lyme vaccine. First one didn't work, but now working on another. Why are they working on a vaccine for an illness that is hard to get and easy to treat? You got me!

Maybe because they know its all a lie. They will come up with some big revelation, making it look like "they" discovered something huge, that lyme does indeed exist in chronic form and then sell their vaccine and make billions of dollars. This is just one theory that I have!

No matter what, they are greedy to the point of pure evil! Sitting back and watching so many people and even little children suffer is nothing but evil!

Of course there is the conspiracy theory that the government unleashed the spirochete, or it accidentially was unleashed on the poplulation and if that is so..... well you know the government will never own up to it; and will spend forever covering it up.

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